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jrt

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The Wall Street Journal has just reported that the USA economy in the 2nd quarter grew 3%. The mainstream media is disappointed by these numbers because Trump and the American people are reaping the benefits of these America first policies.
 
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The mainstream media lost any credibility they had years ago. They are losing viewership because they are a propaganda mouthpiece for the radical left and Democratic Party. Their influence is diminishing every day and I for one have no pity for them.
That’s funny considering all the mainstream media is owned by the right.
 

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Both sides of the fence have propaganda machines. The right is more relentless tho.

I think Trump is doing some good things and some absolute horrible gross disgusting things. And Trump himself is an absolute horrible human being. Money isn’t everything.
 

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The Wall Street Journal has just reported that the USA economy in the 2nd quarter grew 3%. The mainstream media is disappointed by these numbers because Trump and the American people are reaping the benefits of these America first policies.
I know ... everybody i know in the US keep telling how great the economy is and enthusiastic they are about the future since they live in the greatest nation in the world ...which will keep growing forever without self inflicted drama in the White House . No slowdown anywhere in the economy....a dream

All hunky dory ....

Except....na ! You would not be interested...🌈🌞
 

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3 to 1 isn't fair, even a woman went in to kick the guy.
The other thing is nobody around the argument/beating stood up to be counted to stop the beating.

That is the real crime.

The atmosphere is different when there is a large crowd. If you are coming from some large event, make sure you have an immediated place to go to. When you hang out and wait for people, that is usually when shit starts to happen.
The problem with the states is large crowds and guns and alcohol/drugs. Not a good mixture.
To be fair....there were some people in the crowd who were trying to help. You can clearly see one of the women going in to stomp on the guy gets pulled off and falls on her back. It also appears a couple of people in the crowd come to help the unconscious woman as well. There just weren't enough of them. The fight started when words were exchanged between the white guy and one of the black men which got heated, the white man tried to slap him and a guy comes up behind him and slugs him in the head...and then everyone joins in right after that. A couple of other middle aged white men were attacked but seem to have escaped without too much damage. Cincinnati needs a new and more competent police chief IMHO. The guy who slugged the woman should be charged with attempted murder and I think in the end he will be. He could have killed her as when she came down she hit the back of her head hard on the pavement.
 

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That’s funny considering all the mainstream media is owned by the right.
CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, New York Times and the Washington Post and Atlantic Magazine are left wing publications and propaganda mouthpieces for the Democratic Party. Their viewership is in steep decline due to their bias reporting.
 
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CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, New York Times and the Washington Post and Atlantic Magazine are left wing publications and propaganda mouthpieces for the Democratic Party. Their viewership is in steep decline due to their bias reporting.
Fox News is classified as entertainment here in Canada but they are definitely a right wing propaganda machine. I know here in vancouver that our vancouver sun is owned by Americans and is right leaning.

I’m too lazy to look up others.
 
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Fox News is classified as entertainment here in Canada but they are definitely a right wing propaganda machine. I know here in vancouver that our vancouver sun is owned by Americans and is right leaning.

I’m too lazy to look up others.
Rebel , Epoch, Newsmax, Breitbart, Narcity, Rogan but he seems to coming to his sense . I could add up but who cares contrary to the insecure right we simply point out the lies instead of calling their networks fake .

But yes as you said Fox News is not considered a news network in Canada and in Europe as they would have to adhere to journalistic standards and make retractions and apologize very often (not in their business culture) . I have to say they are entertaining in a laughable way ... WWE type of way.
 

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Sane, compassionate, and qualified lol

She was more incompetent than Joe Biden.

She couldn't get out of the primaries. If Biden had moved out of the way and they had primaries for the Democratic party this go round she would not be on the ticket.
 
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It looks the ERS will be raking in tarrif $$$$$ now. Let’s see if income taxes come down next year when the great rebalancing between income tax (IRS) and consumption tax (ERS) manifests. Economists may become relevant again…
 

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Sane, compassionate, and qualified lol

She was more incompetent than Joe Biden.

She couldn't get out of the primaries. If Biden had moved out of the way and they had primaries for the Democratic party this go round she would not be on the ticket.
This is pure sexism. She was definitely not incompetent and she was definitely qualified. She was also the only choice against Trump because as you said, Biden should have stepped down long before he did but he didn’t and then he endorsed Kamala. She was infinity more qualified than that snake oil salesman. But the USA just wasn’t ready to elect a black woman so the world ended up with that barbarian.
 

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The next Democrat that promises UBI in 2028 will be in the White House. The job market is total free fall. UBI will have to come into effect very soon. Getting a full time job is really like winning the lottery unless its pure manual labor. Which will destroy your body in a few years.
 

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Newsmax is starting to shift the message to normalize the acceptance of Ghislaine Maxwell future pardon . She is now the victim when all the victims say that she participated and was sometimes even more evil and manipulative than Epstein himself. But it looks like it was lost in translation from plain English to far right English.
 
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SmikeSmith

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Both sides of the fence have propaganda machines. The right is more relentless tho.

I think Trump is doing some good things and some absolute horrible gross disgusting things. And Trump himself is an absolute horrible human being. Money isn’t everything.
The right is just more willing to lie, or misrepresent things. I always think that the problem with critical thinking is that it goes hand in hand with self-doubt and introspection. So we see folks on the left willing to concede, or equivocate, because they’re open to other view points. Folks who are rabidly conservative are willing to ignore errors of fact, misrepresentation or outright fabrication if it fits their viewpoint.

I think it’s one of the reasons social orgs on the left often have a hard time too, whereas the right can get everyone in lockstep by just pointing to a single issue.

I’m glad “we” on the left are insightful, and self-critical. A lot of our modern social infrastructure depended on this, because we do, and did value open and thoughtful dialogue. But fuuuuuck 😅 when you’re faced with an opponent like the modern right, who have basically built their grassroots ignorance over decades, it sure makes it hard.

/endrant
 

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The right is just more willing to lie, or misrepresent things. I always think that the problem with critical thinking is that it goes hand in hand with self-doubt and introspection. So we see folks on the left willing to concede, or equivocate, because they’re open to other view points. Folks who are rabidly conservative are willing to ignore errors of fact, misrepresentation or outright fabrication if it fits their viewpoint.

I think it’s one of the reasons social orgs on the left often have a hard time too, whereas the right can get everyone in lockstep by just pointing to a single issue.

I’m glad “we” on the left are insightful, and self-critical. A lot of our modern social infrastructure depended on this, because we do, and did value open and thoughtful dialogue. But fuuuuuck 😅 when you’re faced with an opponent like the modern right, who have basically built their grassroots ignorance over decades, it sure makes it hard.

/endrant
Agreed.

The Right has dumbed down the grass roots for decades, to the point where they actively vote against their own self interest because they cant seem to think for themselves. (I’m looking at you Alabama, Tennessee, Mississippi etc…) Perhaps because of this developed ignorance the right also seems to have a much more cult like hold over the base. GOP politicians, and FOX, Newsmax etc… can flat out lie about obvious things and the base just takes them at their word. The cult can fall over backward trying to justify it to themselves in amazing ways.

Case in point the whole Epstein thing. Most liberal leaning Americans couldn’t give a rats ass if Clinton is in the files, prosecute all the pedo fuckers including any Democrats. Whereas the right are beside themselves defending Trump when it could not be more obvious that he’s guilty as sin.
 

SmikeSmith

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Agreed.

The Right has dumbed down the grass roots for decades,
It’s not like it’s any kind of new tactic though, I’d be willing to say “centuries” at this point. Bob Dylan sang about it when he was still acoustic, and that was at least 60 years ago.

That’s why “social studies” are so important. The appeal to individualism is so strong we’re willing to vote against our self interest. It’s hard to make people see how abstract things like “the greater good” actually improve our own lot as well.
 
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