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USA Political Discussion Thread 2025
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So ok.....lets look at it this way.....for 4 years the Democrats were in charge of the DOJ, FBI and CIA ...actually before that as well. So suddenly they realize that Trump is running for office again and the Devil Incarnate must be stopped! So they are sitting on the Epstein files where every virtually every meme in this thread is pointing the pedo finger at Trump. What a perfect way to get rid of the fucker and get him thrown in jail for the rest of his life.
But instead of doing that they decide to try 4 different lawfare attempts with what turn out to be incompetent prosecutors....blow millions of dollars doing it...and Trump still gets elected. At any point they could have released the files and sure there would be some collateral damage with other Democrats or friendly billionaires in the mix (Bill Gates comes to mind) but its worth it to keep Frump from taking control of the WH again.
So now..after not releasing it for 4 years...they are clamoring to reveal the list that they refused to release themselves during their entire term when they would have had a great reason to do so.
So aside from not having anything else they can run on...what are the Dems up to? Trump may have his name in the files.....so may many innocent people who had nothing to do with Epstein Island and were unaware of what kind of a monster they were associating with. Stephen Hawking the disabled inventor is even rumored to be in there for example. What are the legal ramifications if the list is released? Does the list differentiate between Epstein Island clients and regular business contacts? We actually do not even know if its actually a list. Its still all speculation and Trump is to blame for most of it by promising to release it and then not going through with it...but it does not necessarily mean that the references to him point to pedophilia. If it did I doubt that the Democrats could have resisted the urge to make it public when the threat of Trump running in 2024 reemerged.
It does however make for a lot of great creative memes and even though I disagree with them I did find several of them quite funny.
And here is someone who seems to have disappeared completely into the mist denying the close relationship he forged with Epstein over the years. Funny how after this and other interviews on the subject he has barely been heard of since. He sure seems very uncomfortable and nervous in this interview.
But instead of doing that they decide to try 4 different lawfare attempts with what turn out to be incompetent prosecutors....blow millions of dollars doing it...and Trump still gets elected. At any point they could have released the files and sure there would be some collateral damage with other Democrats or friendly billionaires in the mix (Bill Gates comes to mind) but its worth it to keep Frump from taking control of the WH again.
So now..after not releasing it for 4 years...they are clamoring to reveal the list that they refused to release themselves during their entire term when they would have had a great reason to do so.
So aside from not having anything else they can run on...what are the Dems up to? Trump may have his name in the files.....so may many innocent people who had nothing to do with Epstein Island and were unaware of what kind of a monster they were associating with. Stephen Hawking the disabled inventor is even rumored to be in there for example. What are the legal ramifications if the list is released? Does the list differentiate between Epstein Island clients and regular business contacts? We actually do not even know if its actually a list. Its still all speculation and Trump is to blame for most of it by promising to release it and then not going through with it...but it does not necessarily mean that the references to him point to pedophilia. If it did I doubt that the Democrats could have resisted the urge to make it public when the threat of Trump running in 2024 reemerged.
It does however make for a lot of great creative memes and even though I disagree with them I did find several of them quite funny.
And here is someone who seems to have disappeared completely into the mist denying the close relationship he forged with Epstein over the years. Funny how after this and other interviews on the subject he has barely been heard of since. He sure seems very uncomfortable and nervous in this interview.
Yep you can only go public with the Department of justice when you can prove your assertion. But since Trump , his followers , his handlers and Maga in general don't believe in it or obey by it ... that's his conundrum now . He now is having to back paddle on his promises which is a self inflicted wound that "yes" we are all so glad to watch Maga and trump tearing themselves apart for it .
If those files in the DOJ and FBI contain something damaging we will know only on their release. If they mess with the files , try to purge them or make parts of them disappear we will know very quickly from the thousands of people who work on them for decades ( police officer, FBI agents, prosecutors , defense lawyers , experts and analysts) One defense lawyer representing a dozen of those women has hundreds of filing boxes about flights , phone bills , etc
Maga and trump will learn about the justice mantra " it's not what you know its what you can prove" . Everybody knows that trump is a sexual predator who was quite active with Epstein for over a decade but convincing his followers with circumstantial evidence was not possible as you know.
Most of us only feel bad for the victims that are dealing with the trauma years later and watch the lie being perpetuated by some of the people involved and for some of them watching trump becoming president and lying about the whole thing.
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Again...if Trump is truly the sexual predator you really want him to be then why did the DOJ under Biden not release the information when they had the opportunity to eliminate him permanently and put him in jail ?
All of them are now screaming for its release but they never did it themselves...why?
President Trump just scored a great trade deal with the European Union. 15% duties on incoming imports entering from the EU and no tariffs on USA products entering Europe. The mainstream media is having difficulty accepting Trump's success. Trump keeps on winning.
What you can prove. No witness willing to come forward you have to keep things under wrap .
As i said the Democrats are only pushing him and his followers Bondi, Patel and Bongino to do what he and they promised which is not a normal procedure in the DOJ when dealing with this type of file .
My apology 🤞 for insinuating that trump could have anything in common with a sexual predator like Epstein or views like a Tate.
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As the Zen master used to say .... We will see !!!!
Its either a big win or the EU is already planning to speed up the decoupling as we are .
Will it make the negotiations Canada US more difficult ? More certainly... as the EU seemed to have caved for Germany . We will really know the full story in the coming months and see the reaction from the EU countries .
My brother worked at MS in the 70s and 80s. This is the way Gates is all the time. He's definitely on the spectrum like a lot of genius type weirdos ie Musk.
Dems and Trump may be delaying release because of potential harm, as you point out, to unknowing third parties. What are the chances of Hawking assaulting anyone - just look at him he could barely move. My theory is that Epstein took lots of people to the island to scope their potential for future blackmail. Others he took just for their celebrity status. Not everyone would be interested much less bit the carrots dangled in front of them.
There may be people who are completely innocent but merely being on "the list" would destroy them and their families.
Is anyone going to see a name and go "Hmm I wonder if he's guilty?"
HELL NO it's straight to pitchforks and burning at the stake.
Agreed.....there are lots of people likely in the files that were strictly business clients or friends of some sort who he did not take into his private world....revealing all this could create a legal nightmare, but if they had Trump dead to rights in there I am certain they would have released it anyways damn the consequences. I am pretty sure they know whats in it and that it cannot be released....and now they are playing a shrewd political game of trying to make it look like Trump will not release it because it incriminates him. Its working.
The Epstein era was like the Great Gatsby, organizing parties full of celebrities whether on the island or Studio 54.
A lot of his guests would be chosen strictly as draws to attract other guests. Everyone wants to be part of the “in” crowd.
You know full well I am no Trump fan. But the mere fact he was on the plane or the island does not automatically render him or anyone else a criminal.
A lot of his guests would be chosen strictly as draws to attract other guests. Everyone wants to be part of the “in” crowd.
You know full well I am no Trump fan. But the mere fact he was on the plane or the island does not automatically render him or anyone else a criminal.
Well the paranoid would think the Epstein files were a way for the CIA to control the wealthy in the US and across the world. Epstein had his island in the Caribbean, while other rich guys have islands in the Mediterrean and the Persian Gulf.... There are lots of sex islands across the world where shenanigans happen.
https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/midwest/cincinnati-videos-violence-brawl-police/
Cnn, Cbs news, abc news have pulled the coverage of the Assault in Cincinnati.
You can continue to see updates on youtube not the mainstream media in America. Its the wrong group that got attacked. Won't hear a peep from lefties or democrats.
Cnn, Cbs news, abc news have pulled the coverage of the Assault in Cincinnati.
You can continue to see updates on youtube not the mainstream media in America. Its the wrong group that got attacked. Won't hear a peep from lefties or democrats.
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If the roles were reversed Headlines news.
Someone is seriously wrong down here.
Had to go to a right wing news site to find the latest news on the suspects being charged. Swept under the rug because the victims were white.
Someone is seriously wrong down here.
3 to 1 isn't fair, even a woman went in to kick the guy.
The other thing is nobody around the argument/beating stood up to be counted to stop the beating.
That is the real crime.
The atmosphere is different when there is a large crowd. If you are coming from some large event, make sure you have an immediated place to go to. When you hang out and wait for people, that is usually when shit starts to happen.
The problem with the states is large crowds and guns and alcohol/drugs. Not a good mixture.
The other thing is nobody around the argument/beating stood up to be counted to stop the beating.
That is the real crime.
The atmosphere is different when there is a large crowd. If you are coming from some large event, make sure you have an immediated place to go to. When you hang out and wait for people, that is usually when shit starts to happen.
The problem with the states is large crowds and guns and alcohol/drugs. Not a good mixture.
The mainstream media lost any credibility they had years ago. They are losing viewership because they are a propaganda mouthpiece for the radical left and Democratic Party. Their influence is diminishing every day and I for one have no pity for them.
