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marsvolta

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Buddy of mine who winters in Arizona told me they are running Teslas off the road down there, that the convicted felon rapist supporters are keeping really really quiet. Said a lot of the dRumpf Vance signs have disappeared. He's a builder and noted that building materials in the last 2 days just went up 20-25%. People are getting pissed, and this is a red leaning state.

Meanwhile my opinion only but given the US is no longer a reliable trading partner and will not be until the fuckheads in the administration are removed in one way or another, I am leaning towards Canada taking more or less an at war footing. Retool some of the auto industry into whatever makes sense in infrastructure and yeah I know its specialized and global etc etc. Definitely draw on Canada's deep expertise in nuclear tech to get on with building a couple of big ice breakers and get some nuc sub tech going. Deploy some SMR's into the remote areas. Hey, the Canadian Telsat was a pioneer in satellite communication, get going on that end of things, we've got lots of companies in the game. Kick out the nazi's starlink. Lumber? Hell we've got lots of it. Anything fucknuts is taxing, we keep and build ourselves or sell to countries that are friendly.

What a fucking shit show.
100%. this whole shit show could be a path for Canada to come out on top. Canada has a rich history of bowing to US pressure to abandon industrialization efforts in order to ensure that the US was economically dominant!!!! and we have been able to negotiate a higher standard of living than the median US citizen by just sitting around and selling natural resources. we have the third largest reserves of natural resources in the world (if you ignore Saudi Arabia as it only has one resource). our biggest economic negotiating wedge is going to be our immediate rise in industrialization! and stupid in the White House just gave us the green light to do so! that guy has no idea how good the US had it with us but he's about to find out.
 

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I’ve seen 240kw wind turbines for sale.
If I put one on my back forty I could run my house and charge a car.
 
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80watts

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100%. this whole shit show could be a path for Canada to come out on top. Canada has a rich history of bowing to US pressure to abandon industrialization efforts in order to ensure that the US was economically dominant!!!! and we have been able to negotiate a higher standard of living than the median US citizen by just sitting around and selling natural resources. we have the third largest reserves of natural resources in the world (if you ignore Saudi Arabia as it only has one resource). our biggest economic negotiating wedge is going to be our immediate rise in industrialization! and stupid in the White House just gave us the green light to do so! that guy has no idea how good the US had it with us but he's about to find out.
I like what you are suggesting.
In the meantime we can build nuclear power plants for places like Alberta, and Sask and NS, NB, PEI and NF where there isn't much hydro.
Halifax and Montreal are sea ports. Anything from the prairies can be shipped out from Thunder Bay to Montreal. Don't allow other countries to sail on the great lakes.
Bypass parts of the Columbia river to Alberta. Drill a tunnel from BC to Alberta.. After all the Columbia river treaty is on hold right now. And According to any international treaty and US law, the people on the up river side have the priority to the water. Or build RO plants on the west coast and pump fresh water up to Okanogan lake and then Shuswap Lake and then over to Alberta.
Shut off electricity to the states, charge them 1.5X or 2X until all tariff are gone. The Americans are rich so they can pay at the pump, before getting electricity from Canada. Again till they come to their senses.
Canada needs 1 or 2 extra steel plants. A steel plant that produces pig iron. Quebec has iron ore mines. Make steel cheap. Hey invest in a steel plant in Australia.
We will need a plant to produce plastics of all types.
Most manufacturing these days takes place with robots and 3D printing.
Will need new mines for Tungsten, iron, Rare earth metals, titanium (illemite & rutile), Aluminum.
Coal is a fossil fuel but it can be used to make other hydrocarbons.
Most forestry should be gone to selective foresting, not clear cut, which will prevent soil erosion.

In the US the west coast and south western states are experiencing drought. The solution to this is to build big Reverse osmosis plants and pump fresh water to the Colorado dam. The most likely thing the American will do is drain the great lakes for water there.

The biggest thing Canadian have to do is to save the resources for the future or a portion of the resource have to be saved for the future in terms of keeping an inventory or in a monetary fund for future generations.

Renewal of democratic processes and government. Today more people believe that the government is the people's government, and not owed by a particular Royal Family. Our law says it belongs to the monarchy or crown not the people.
 
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The biggest piss off I seen is the Trump's followers saying other countries should not raise tariffs against the US. Its only restructuring of the US economy....
Meanwhile the other countries economies plumet due to loss of sales in the US.
 

masterpoonhunter

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I’ve seen 240kw wind turbines for sale.
If I put one on my back forty I could run my house and charge a car.
Skywind out of GmbH, top of the market tech and affordable. I put one up at the place at the Lake a few years ago added a bank of batteries and with the frequent power outages in the Mid Island area, it covers the rough spots without a hitch. $500 to replace / fix the batteries coming up and that is the ONLY maintenance on this in 4 -1/2 years. More than enough power to run the 1500sqft house for quite a few hours.
 

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Stocks across the world plunged Thursday, with the major U.S. and Canadian indexes suffering their largest one-day percentage losses since the early days of the pandemic in 2020, as U.S. President Donald Trump’s sweeping tariffs ignited fears of an all-out trade war and a global economic recession.


A combined US$2.4 trillion in stock market value was wiped off of S&P 500 companies alone, as investors began to price in a potentially toxic mix of weakening economic growth and the higher inflation that could be triggered by the tariffs. Some of the biggest declines were seen in smaller capitalization U.S. stocks, which are particularly vulnerable to economic conditions. The Russell 2000 index of small caps fell into a bear market - a move of more than 20% from its recent highs.


Investors started fleeing risky assets almost immediately after Trump announced after markets closed Wednesday that he was slapping a 10% tariff on most U.S. imports and much higher levies on dozens of other countries. U.S. treasury yields moved sharply lower, reflecting both the flight to the safer asset class of bonds as well as growing concerns a global recession may be unavoidable. Markets priced in higher odds the Federal Reserve will cut interest rates in coming months, but it came with unease given that such a monetary policy move would likely only exacerbate inflationary pressures.
 
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Well the day started with a conference call with our investor group and the lady running it said “This looks bad” and got worse.
Shitting bricks over my pension fund.
Trump and his asshole sycophants go on and on about deficits but in the last couple of weeks he added 4 trillion to the deficit and erased 2 1/2 trillion from investor’s money.

Trump is stupid, lazy and ignorant. But someone pushed him to do this. Is this his “Burning the Reichstag”? If there’s pandemonium he can declare martial law and give himself emergency powers. You know how he admires Kim and Putin.
 

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100%. this whole shit show could be a path for Canada to come out on top. Canada has a rich history of bowing to US pressure to abandon industrialization efforts in order to ensure that the US was economically dominant!!!!
Trump foolishly lit US soft power on fire just as he’s lighting the stock market and economy on fire.

US soft power as an incumbent that had to be “in the room” on any liberal democratic issue of note in the world was as powerful or more powerful for US interests than almost anything else.

Now, we have a once in a 100 years or more opportunity to help fill the vacuum and take a leadership role in the world and build some soft power of our own with other states that enjoy free markets, order and cooperation and who have the balls to call out power-grabbing buffoonery for what it is and refuse to play the game.

it’s called “unintended consequences”, Mr Trump. Thanks for this gift, Mr Grift.

I love it and I like that Carney seems to understand this and has the ambition and leadership qualities to go after it. Canada’s stock is gonna rise imo
 

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Curious to know if any of you who are expert in US politics know if there is anything that would trigger a Presidential election before the 4 year mark? Kind of like a "Non-Confidence" vote in our House of Commons. Trump has really fucked things up this time. And as much as all of his sycophants in the Republican Party try to justify it or explain it away there will be nothing they can do once the US economy tanks and all of his supporters turn on him as unemployment and prices rise while they start losing their homes and their 401K's, etc drop to zero. At some point the majority of his supporters in the Congress and Senate will start to break ranks to save their own skin, politically and literally. Short of a military coup is there a mechanism where Congress can dream him unfit to lead the country and his Presidency is revoked? And not in a way where JD Vance who is a spinless little twerp, becomes President but one which triggers a new election.
Just curious?
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Curious to know if any of you who are expert in US politics know if there is anything that would trigger a Presidential election before the 4 year mark? Kind of like a "Non-Confidence" vote in our House of Commons. Trump has really fucked things up this time. And as much as all of his sycophants in the Republican Party try to justify it or explain it away there will be nothing they can do once the US economy tanks and all of his supporters turn on him as unemployment and prices rise while they start losing their homes and their 401K's, etc drop to zero. At some point the majority of his supporters in the Congress and Senate will start to break ranks to save their own skin, politically and literally. Short of a military coup is there a mechanism where Congress can dream him unfit to lead the country and his Presidency is revoked? And not in a way where JD Vance who is a spinless little twerp, becomes President but one which triggers a new election.
Just curious?
Cheers
J
As far as I know, if Trump is some how deemed unfit, then Vance would take over, and if Vance is unfit, there’s a next in line of people already elected. The USA elections are fixed at every 4 years.
 

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I DON"T KNOW! Maybe manufacturing jobs will come back or this will be a massive bust for America. All I know down here is inflation is down, nothing is really going up. Except for Gas.
 

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Curious to know if any of you who are expert in US politics know if there is anything that would trigger a Presidential election before the 4 year mark? Kind of like a "Non-Confidence" vote in our House of Commons. Trump has really fucked things up this time. And as much as all of his sycophants in the Republican Party try to justify it or explain it away there will be nothing they can do once the US economy tanks and all of his supporters turn on him as unemployment and prices rise while they start losing their homes and their 401K's, etc drop to zero. At some point the majority of his supporters in the Congress and Senate will start to break ranks to save their own skin, politically and literally. Short of a military coup is there a mechanism where Congress can dream him unfit to lead the country and his Presidency is revoked? And not in a way where JD Vance who is a spinless little twerp, becomes President but one which triggers a new election.
Just curious?
Cheers
J
1: The Mid-term elections can shift the balance of power.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_midterm_election
2: The 25th Amendment, he is clearly disabled.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
3: Articles of Impeachment, Third Time's the Charm.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_of_impeachment
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Members of Congress may eventually grow balls or a brain.

Vance is evil personified.
 

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As far as I know, if Trump is some how deemed unfit, then Vance would take over, and if Vance is unfit, there’s a next in line of people already elected. The USA elections are fixed at every 4 years.
The speaker of the house is next in line after the VP. That scenario was covered in the movie Olympus has Fallen with Gerard Butler when a North Korean terrorist took over the White House.
 

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If a significant number of Republicans revolted against Trump and joined Dems to pass some bills, they could very much limit Trump's executive orders. For example, there is talk of bringing a bill to the house that would withdraw any tariffs that cause inflation, which is pretty well true of all tariffs.

But most likely, things will need to get much worse before Republicans would revolt against Trump.

JD
 
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If a significant number of Republicans revolted against Trump and joined Dems to pass some bills, they could very much limit Trump's executive orders. For example, there is talk of bringing a bill to the house that would withdraw any tariffs that cause inflation, which is pretty well true of all tariffs.

But most likely, things will need to get much worse before Republicans would revolt against Trump.

JD
I did see the nut licker Ted Cruz on the news saying that tariffs are a tax on the middle class which he doesn’t support so he’s displaying some backbone.
 
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Sorry if you impeach Trump, you would have to impeach Vance. Vance is too much of an idiot. To impeach you need the congress to impeach and then you need the Senate to impeach.
The reality is that both houses are the government, the Presidency is a fiqure head that can do many things to get the ball rolling when the mass of congress and senate are slow.
 
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