USA Political Discussion Thread 2025

[GentlemanJack69]

The CAD is low because the economy is weak and stimulus must be injected. The only country that intentionally devalues their currency is China, but they can afford to do it. Many Americans approve and support Trump’s actions. There are no friends in business and this is business. Canada places tariffs on the US and hopefully soon it will become reciprocated. I seriously doubt many Americans will lose sleep if Canada is placed in a recession. Actually many Americans are offended that Canada is subsidized by the US. This is tit for tat, Canadians are not use to paying their fair share, which is the reason most up North are angry. Dear god, at least pay for NATO…..actually I think NATO is obsolete, but 1.3% is embarrassing. I know the war machine, which I agree to a point, but do your part and quit complaining about Trump and Russia. If Canada cared, they would pay to support NATO, but they live in the shadow of the American taxpayer. Pride will not put food on the table and an equal partner would support a common cause. I want lower taxes, you are fine with paying for those that do not pay for themselves and accept taxes for the good of mankind. We are obviously different, but that doesn’t mean we should attack each other. I was born in Ontario and still own property in Calgary. I made my money via capitalism, not socialism. My brother is a socialist head to toe and still struggles in Ottawa. Currently Canada survives on immigration, but in the long run, those immigrants will cost you even more taxes. You probably buy into the climate scam. To each their own.

I have to disagree with your first point. Exchange rate is affected by a variety of factors but the most applicable are 1. interest rates, 2. National economic performance and 3. Inflation including economic outlook. the point I was making was that In order to keep the exchange rate low the Bank of Canada uses interest rates to keep the value of the Canadian dollar low in comparison to the USD. This is how we keep the exchange rate low. We are using factors within our control to manipulate our exchange rate to promote the greater trade potential that a lower Canadian dollar has with our greatest trading partner.
Yes economic performance is a factor, but I would point out that by many metrics the USA is in worse shape than Canada. The debt to GDP ratio for Canada is roughly 70% (2024) whereas the USA is 124% (2024).. in your comparison of someone spending outside their budget it would appear that Canada is actually within budget whereas the USA overspent by 24%. The USA is doing better than us in terms of unemployment, USA around 4% and Canada just under 7%, On the other hand inflation in Canada is 1.8% (2024) with the USA at 2.9%.. the cost of living in the USA is a serious issue (one that Trump campaigned on) and Trump's actions by starting this trade war are going to make things much worse in terms of inflation at least, and likely in the unemployment rate as well... especially since he's engaged in mass layoffs of the Federal workforce.
The biggest factor impacting the Canadian dollar exchange rate is the economic uncertainty posed by Trump's actions in starting this trade war. Incidentally this trade war will have a similar affect in the USA as it does in Canada.. So, in conclusion, those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. To complete the comparison, our house is much smaller and has less windows, we are going to have a higher percentage of our windows broken because we have overall less windows, but the USA is going to suffer as well especially since Trump is smashing the windows in his own hose and encouraging others to small the USA's windows as well.

Yes many Americans approve and support Trump's actions. Please admit that many Americans disapprove and are actively working against Trump's actions. In rational discourse you need to acknowledge the truth of the points made, or disprove them. Simply restating your own talking points or saying the opposite of what I'm saying doesn't negate the points I'm making. Trump is opposed by a significant portion of Americans. Yes he is also supported by a significant portion of Americans.. but you can't ignore the fact that his popularity is hardly universal.

Tariffs between Canada and the USA are already reciprocal. We've always had reciprocal tariffs. The trade agreements we sign are largely designed to remove those barriers and improve globalization of trade. Again.. I have no disagreement with tariffs.. my disagreement is with illegal tariffs. The Trump talking point that "Canada is subsidized by the USA" is simply untrue. You need to stop believing everything Trump says - the man over simplifies everything and blatantly lies whenever it suits his purposes. Using this as a stick to beat us over the head trying to make out that Canada has somehow been taking advantage of our oh so generous southern neighbours is ridiculous. Yes Canada gains advantage from our relationship with the USA, but the USA also gains advantage from their relationship with Canada. Do you really believe that the trade partner in this relationship with the greater economic might (USA) hasn't been using that strength to ensure that they get the better of every single trade deal that we've ever made? Do you really think that Americans are that stupid?
If you believe Trump the last trade agreement signed by USA, Canada and Mexico was the best trade agreement ever !!. until he needed it not to be.. now he says that only a moron would have signed that agreement. And just because he's right and a moron (Trump) signed it, doesn't mean he's right again. After all you shouldn't trust the incompetent moron that signed it in the first place.

You and I seem to agree on NATO. But that doesn't mean that I would be in favour of overtly supporting a dictatorship. I must point out that there is a huge difference between opposing a dictatorship in nominal fashion where the impact to our own country is also nominal, and openly espousing the talking points and validity of the reprehensible actions a dictatorship has undertaken (which Trump is doing).

I happen to believe that properly controlled and undertaken immigration is an excellent economic driver. I'm sure that you can come up with examples of negative effects from immigration which are quite real.. but so are the factual positive effects. We'll just have to disagree on this one, after all, you're an immigrant so they can't all be bad can they?

If in referring to "the climate scam", you mean do I believe in the scientifically proven effects of greenhouse gases?,.. then yes, I believe in climate change. I do believe that not all of the projected effects are as straightforward as some espouse, but I do believe in these effects. I don't believe in the alternate facts that if I simply say things aren't real they won't be. I am a firm believer in telling the truth no matter how unpleasant. Climate change is real. Disagree on the outcome, disagree on the severity, disagree on what we should do about it.. but don't pretend it isn't real, that's just ignorance.

GJ

 

[PuntMeister]

If I was Carney…

1. Tarrifs. Yawn. 🥱. “Fill your boots Donny—we like tarrifs too. 20% export tax on oil and electricity, and that’s just a starter. Heck, we’ll employ thousands to truck and rail to our own refineries and back.” (if our pride destines us to poke-back at the bear, might as well make the broken nose fun). The arguments about “you are just hurting yourself” are wasted breath, and just play into the US narrative. “200% on dairy? Ya, that’s how we roll here. Make it 400%.”

2. Ya, about that 51st State delusion you’ve spouted off about Donny, Ha Ha Ha Ha….51 times. We laugh in your face dude! Fuck, we have the most fucking uranium in the world you twerp. And the means to refine it into what-ev the fuck we want. In fact, NRC has a few cool processes ready for primetime, and Canada will be declaring “NUCLEAR INDEPENDENCE” in Feb 2026. Oh, and don’t get any funny invasion ideas. China and Putin would happily set up nukes in Sarnia in a matter of weeks. Whitehouse go boom if USA steps one toe over border. Remember Cuba? Ya, that’s a thing. Oooh, ouchy that was. But it’s a real option Donny if you fail to respect CANADA as a SOVEREIGN NATION. Plussss! We like to cross-check don’t ya know. We are used to wearing helmets. Strap in bro. We got some cartel homies want to pharma grey trade with your northern states. Loooong fucking border, right?

Now, how mich softwood does your construction industry need? Let’s make a deal…

Kidding? Maybe. Sometimes thinking through extremes brings clarity to wussy-talk.

 

[Motorman]

I have to disagree with your first point. Exchange rate is affected by a variety of factors but the most applicable are 1. interest rates, 2. National economic performance and 3. Inflation including economic outlook. the point I was making was that In order to keep the exchange rate low the Bank of Canada uses interest rates to keep the value of the Canadian dollar low in comparison to the USD. This is how we keep the exchange rate low. We are using factors within our control to manipulate our exchange rate to promote the greater trade potential that a lower Canadian dollar has with our greatest trading partner.
Yes economic performance is a factor, but I would point out that by many metrics the USA is in worse shape than Canada. The debt to GDP ratio for Canada is roughly 70% (2024) whereas the USA is 124% (2024).. in your comparison of someone spending outside their budget it would appear that Canada is actually within budget whereas the USA overspent by 24%. The USA is doing better than us in terms of unemployment, USA around 4% and Canada just under 7%, On the other hand inflation in Canada is 1.8% (2024) with the USA at 2.9%.. the cost of living in the USA is a serious issue (one that Trump campaigned on) and Trump's actions by starting this trade war are going to make things much worse in terms of inflation at least, and likely in the unemployment rate as well... especially since he's engaged in mass layoffs of the Federal workforce.
The biggest factor impacting the Canadian dollar exchange rate is the economic uncertainty posed by Trump's actions in starting this trade war. Incidentally this trade war will have a similar affect in the USA as it does in Canada.. So, in conclusion, those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. To complete the comparison, our house is much smaller and has less windows, we are going to have a higher percentage of our windows broken because we have overall less windows, but the USA is going to suffer as well especially since Trump is smashing the windows in his own hose and encouraging others to small the USA's windows as well.

Yes many Americans approve and support Trump's actions. Please admit that many Americans disapprove and are actively working against Trump's actions. In rational discourse you need to acknowledge the truth of the points made, or disprove them. Simply restating your own talking points or saying the opposite of what I'm saying doesn't negate the points I'm making. Trump is opposed by a significant portion of Americans. Yes he is also supported by a significant portion of Americans.. but you can't ignore the fact that his popularity is hardly universal.

Tariffs between Canada and the USA are already reciprocal. We've always had reciprocal tariffs. The trade agreements we sign are largely designed to remove those barriers and improve globalization of trade. Again.. I have no disagreement with tariffs.. my disagreement is with illegal tariffs. The Trump talking point that "Canada is subsidized by the USA" is simply untrue. You need to stop believing everything Trump says - the man over simplifies everything and blatantly lies whenever it suits his purposes. Using this as a stick to beat us over the head trying to make out that Canada has somehow been taking advantage of our oh so generous southern neighbours is ridiculous. Yes Canada gains advantage from our relationship with the USA, but the USA also gains advantage from their relationship with Canada. Do you really believe that the trade partner in this relationship with the greater economic might (USA) hasn't been using that strength to ensure that they get the better of every single trade deal that we've ever made? Do you really think that Americans are that stupid?
If you believe Trump the last trade agreement signed by USA, Canada and Mexico was the best trade agreement ever !!. until he needed it not to be.. now he says that only a moron would have signed that agreement. And just because he's right and a moron (Trump) signed it, doesn't mean he's right again. After all you shouldn't trust the incompetent moron that signed it in the first place.

You and I seem to agree on NATO. But that doesn't mean that I would be in favour of overtly supporting a dictatorship. I must point out that there is a huge difference between opposing a dictatorship in nominal fashion where the impact to our own country is also nominal, and openly espousing the talking points and validity of the reprehensible actions a dictatorship has undertaken (which Trump is doing).

I happen to believe that properly controlled and undertaken immigration is an excellent economic driver. I'm sure that you can come up with examples of negative effects from immigration which are quite real.. but so are the factual positive effects. We'll just have to disagree on this one, after all, you're an immigrant so they can't all be bad can they?

If in referring to "the climate scam", you mean do I believe in the scientifically proven effects of greenhouse gases?,.. then yes, I believe in climate change. I do believe that not all of the projected effects are as straightforward as some espouse, but I do believe in these effects. I don't believe in the alternate facts that if I simply say things aren't real they won't be. I am a firm believer in telling the truth no matter how unpleasant. Climate change is real. Disagree on the outcome, disagree on the severity, disagree on what we should do about it.. but don't pretend it isn't real, that's just ignorance.

GJ

What I believe is the people on TV that disapprove of Trumps actions are the people that scream the loudest, which always gets the most publicity. Identical to the Congress members singing and making a video shadow boxing, plus the few lighting Tesla on fire. IMO, those nuts have way too much time on their hands probably because most collect some type of handout. As you pointed out, the inflation rate in Canada is 1.8%, yes the interest rates are low, that is stimulus. It is actually all over the Canadian news. There are many different ways to subsidize a nation and to me, NATO is the big one. Think about it, numerous countries with much smaller GDP’s pay at least 2% toward NATO. Again, I’m not a fan of the NATO concept, but if you’re going to play, a country needs to pay. Not paying because the US will protect you is a subsidy. You bring up GDP to debt ratio as a percentage when the US GDP is almost 13 times larger. The vast majority of businesses in Canada and America are run on credit. If your comparison was valid the percentage of debt should be at least 13 times higher for the United States. You are comparing apples to oranges. We both know that even during the Biden four years the exchange rate stayed around 70 cents to the dollar and Trump had nothing to do with it then. The American economy is performing much stronger than Canada and most of the world, which is the reason Trump can simultaneously hit multiple countries with Tariffs. Like I wrote, it’s a perfect storm and at least for now, all the stars are aligned. Due to the size of the US alone, all the talk about Canadas ability to inflict pain on the US is complete nonsense. For every study that the climate is changing due to fossil fuels, I can show you a study that indicates it is actually climate evolution. I compare it to your war machine comment, the climate scam is meant to generate money. In this country, democrats have handouts, social programs and fear. They cannot run on policy.

 

[carvesg]

Based on people's logic among the Maga movement is that once you start applying the America first type of movement from the early 20th century which seems at first like the "Easy solution" others can start applying at the state level .

Since California was0 mentioned if they supply 14.2 % of the US budget we could extrapolate that a quick secession would be advantageous. Automatic surplus in their budget that could be applied to their share of the federal debt without having to support the red states .

Could be the start of a movement for New York and Illinois.... It could divert trump's attention and leave us alone .... unless we become the 48th state after those 3 secessions since the Americans would need our help once again.

Krisss ....it sounds as silly as certain ideas from a guy in Washington but if we think it... it must be true !!!

 

[MRGREEN]

Quit giving these fires oxygen and they will burn out.

 

[Motorman]

I have to disagree with your first point. Exchange rate is affected by a variety of factors but the most applicable are 1. interest rates, 2. National economic performance and 3. Inflation including economic outlook. the point I was making was that In order to keep the exchange rate low the Bank of Canada uses interest rates to keep the value of the Canadian dollar low in comparison to the USD. This is how we keep the exchange rate low. We are using factors within our control to manipulate our exchange rate to promote the greater trade potential that a lower Canadian dollar has with our greatest trading partner.
Yes economic performance is a factor, but I would point out that by many metrics the USA is in worse shape than Canada. The debt to GDP ratio for Canada is roughly 70% (2024) whereas the USA is 124% (2024).. in your comparison of someone spending outside their budget it would appear that Canada is actually within budget whereas the USA overspent by 24%. The USA is doing better than us in terms of unemployment, USA around 4% and Canada just under 7%, On the other hand inflation in Canada is 1.8% (2024) with the USA at 2.9%.. the cost of living in the USA is a serious issue (one that Trump campaigned on) and Trump's actions by starting this trade war are going to make things much worse in terms of inflation at least, and likely in the unemployment rate as well... especially since he's engaged in mass layoffs of the Federal workforce.
The biggest factor impacting the Canadian dollar exchange rate is the economic uncertainty posed by Trump's actions in starting this trade war. Incidentally this trade war will have a similar affect in the USA as it does in Canada.. So, in conclusion, those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. To complete the comparison, our house is much smaller and has less windows, we are going to have a higher percentage of our windows broken because we have overall less windows, but the USA is going to suffer as well especially since Trump is smashing the windows in his own hose and encouraging others to small the USA's windows as well.

Yes many Americans approve and support Trump's actions. Please admit that many Americans disapprove and are actively working against Trump's actions. In rational discourse you need to acknowledge the truth of the points made, or disprove them. Simply restating your own talking points or saying the opposite of what I'm saying doesn't negate the points I'm making. Trump is opposed by a significant portion of Americans. Yes he is also supported by a significant portion of Americans.. but you can't ignore the fact that his popularity is hardly universal.

Tariffs between Canada and the USA are already reciprocal. We've always had reciprocal tariffs. The trade agreements we sign are largely designed to remove those barriers and improve globalization of trade. Again.. I have no disagreement with tariffs.. my disagreement is with illegal tariffs. The Trump talking point that "Canada is subsidized by the USA" is simply untrue. You need to stop believing everything Trump says - the man over simplifies everything and blatantly lies whenever it suits his purposes. Using this as a stick to beat us over the head trying to make out that Canada has somehow been taking advantage of our oh so generous southern neighbours is ridiculous. Yes Canada gains advantage from our relationship with the USA, but the USA also gains advantage from their relationship with Canada. Do you really believe that the trade partner in this relationship with the greater economic might (USA) hasn't been using that strength to ensure that they get the better of every single trade deal that we've ever made? Do you really think that Americans are that stupid?
If you believe Trump the last trade agreement signed by USA, Canada and Mexico was the best trade agreement ever !!. until he needed it not to be.. now he says that only a moron would have signed that agreement. And just because he's right and a moron (Trump) signed it, doesn't mean he's right again. After all you shouldn't trust the incompetent moron that signed it in the first place.

You and I seem to agree on NATO. But that doesn't mean that I would be in favour of overtly supporting a dictatorship. I must point out that there is a huge difference between opposing a dictatorship in nominal fashion where the impact to our own country is also nominal, and openly espousing the talking points and validity of the reprehensible actions a dictatorship has undertaken (which Trump is doing).

I happen to believe that properly controlled and undertaken immigration is an excellent economic driver. I'm sure that you can come up with examples of negative effects from immigration which are quite real.. but so are the factual positive effects. We'll just have to disagree on this one, after all, you're an immigrant so they can't all be bad can they?

If in referring to "the climate scam", you mean do I believe in the scientifically proven effects of greenhouse gases?,.. then yes, I believe in climate change. I do believe that not all of the projected effects are as straightforward as some espouse, but I do believe in these effects. I don't believe in the alternate facts that if I simply say things aren't real they won't be. I am a firm believer in telling the truth no matter how unpleasant. Climate change is real. Disagree on the outcome, disagree on the severity, disagree on what we should do about it.. but don't pretend it isn't real, that's just ignorance.

GJ

As you can surmise from many comments on this topic, few have knowledge about money, if they did, you would be out of a job. Remember the student loan forgiveness Biden sold, probably to boost his reelection? The United States government does not loan money to individuals, it guarantees loans. If people default on the guaranteed loans, the taxpayer picks up the bill. He sold it as forgiveness, it was really a transfer of debt to the taxpayer. institutional investors were promised a certain rate of return before they purchased the loan and those investors do not care who pays the interest. Essentially the program took money away from some people and gave it to others under the guise of student loan forgiveness. Smoking mirrors! Now examine where your carbon tax money goes. The Canadian government sold it to the population by indicating the government will take none of the proceeds. However, much of how it is dispersed, saves money spent on social program. It is creative financing on the part of the government. Smoking mirrors!

 

[GentlemanJack69]

What I believe is the people on TV that disapprove of Trumps actions are the people that scream the loudest, which always gets the most publicity. Identical to the Congress members singing and making a video shadow boxing, plus the few lighting Tesla on fire. IMO, those nuts have way too much time on their hands probably because most collect some type of handout. As you pointed out, the inflation rate in Canada is 1.8%, yes the interest rates are low, that is stimulus. It is actually all over the Canadian news. There are many different ways to subsidize a nation and to me, NATO is the big one. Think about it, numerous countries with much smaller GDP’s pay at least 2% toward NATO. Again, I’m not a fan of the NATO concept, but if you’re going to play, a country needs to pay. Not paying because the US will protect you is a subsidy. You bring up GDP to debt ratio as a percentage when the US GDP is almost 13 times larger. The vast majority of businesses in Canada and America are run on credit. If your comparison was valid the percentage of debt should be at least 13 times higher for the United States. You are comparing apples to oranges. We both know that even during the Biden four years the exchange rate stayed around 70 cents to the dollar and Trump had nothing to do with it then. The American economy is performing much stronger than Canada and most of the world, which is the reason Trump can simultaneously hit multiple countries with Tariffs. Like I wrote, it’s a perfect storm and at least for now, all the stars are aligned. Due to the size of the US alone, all the talk about Canadas ability to inflict pain on the US is complete nonsense. For every study that the climate is changing due to fossil fuels, I can show you a study that indicates it is actually climate evolution. I compare it to your war machine comment, the climate scam is meant to generate money. In this country, democrats have handouts, social programs and fear. They cannot run on policy.

Whether the extent of the disapproval of Trump's actions is as extreme as suggested by the media publicity is true or not is irrelevant. You cannot deny that there is widespread disapproval.
The USA is not subsidizing anything for Canada. You are using Trump talking points without understanding that he's latching onto anything that serves his agenda without context. It is true that Canada is not meeting our target of 2% spending on defense.. it's not true that the USA is subsidizing us. Please understand that the agreement that a country will try to meet a target of 2% GDP expenditure on defence is not an agreement that Canada will pay anything into NATO. NATO is a defence agreement basically stating that we will defend each other if we are attacked. All the money the USA spends on their military goes to the United States military, none of it goes to Canada.
You are correct that we are not meeting our target expenditure. As pointed out by Trump, if we're not meeting the goal then the USA shouldn't have any obligation to help us militarily. Pretty sure we're okay with that. There isn't a county out there that is interested in attacking Canada - unless it's to disadvantage the USA anyways.
At one point you pointed out that China put tariffs on Canada. You understand that China did that to incentivize Canada to make agreements with China instead of the USA right? It's not because China sees any justification for tariffing Canada, it's because the USA has given them an opportunity to drive a wedge between us to the benefit of China.

The wonderful thing about percentages as they allow you to accurately compare things that are in other ways dissimilar, like the size of economies.
The numbers I'm quoting are from 2024.. I'm not saying Trump has anything to do with our exchange rates as quoted I'm pointing out how the Bank of Canada is keeping the exchange rate low by manipulating our interest rates. You keep misunderstanding the points I'm making or deliberately misinterpreting them.

Trump can certainly use the size of the US economy to impact all the world economies... but again, you're ignoring the fact that this will have the same affect on the US economy. We're all tied together and hurting one will generally result in hurting any that are connected - and the US is connected to more than Canada - and he's negatively affecting most of them. Canada is going to suffer. So is the USA you just don't want to admit it. Reminds me of Trump. Make a statement. Never admit you've made a mistake. Never admit that you're lying. Smile and say that you've got the biggest, best, largest, ever done before throughout history. Doesn't matter if it's patently false.

Semantics. Climate change and climate evolution are the same thing. Change/Evolution. the only difference is that the word evolution has a purportedly positive connotation. Didn't work out so well for the Neanderthal. The effects of climate change / evolution are measurable facts. We can argue about whether there is anything we can do to affect these changes and whether we should try to affect these changes but the fact that they're happening - and all effects have causes - is indisputable (poor word choice, I guess uneducated ignorant people Can dispute it, they'd just be entirely incorrect). Again. You can disagree with the course we should take or the reason why it is a political agenda, but it is real.
It's like people saying "I don't believe in life insurance"... it's real. Doesn't matter if you don't believe in using it, or believe that it's a scam.. it's real.

Happy Monday everyone.

 

[Motorman]

Whether the extent of the disapproval of Trump's actions is as extreme as suggested by the media publicity is true or not is irrelevant. You cannot deny that there is widespread disapproval.
The USA is not subsidizing anything for Canada. You are using Trump talking points without understanding that he's latching onto anything that serves his agenda without context. It is true that Canada is not meeting our target of 2% spending on defense.. it's not true that the USA is subsidizing us. Please understand that the agreement that a country will try to meet a target of 2% GDP expenditure on defence is not an agreement that Canada will pay anything into NATO. NATO is a defence agreement basically stating that we will defend each other if we are attacked. All the money the USA spends on their military goes to the United States military, none of it goes to Canada.
You are correct that we are not meeting our target expenditure. As pointed out by Trump, if we're not meeting the goal then the USA shouldn't have any obligation to help us militarily. Pretty sure we're okay with that. There isn't a county out there that is interested in attacking Canada - unless it's to disadvantage the USA anyways.
At one point you pointed out that China put tariffs on Canada. You understand that China did that to incentivize Canada to make agreements with China instead of the USA right? It's not because China sees any justification for tariffing Canada, it's because the USA has given them an opportunity to drive a wedge between us to the benefit of China.

The wonderful thing about percentages as they allow you to accurately compare things that are in other ways dissimilar, like the size of economies.
The numbers I'm quoting are from 2024.. I'm not saying Trump has anything to do with our exchange rates as quoted I'm pointing out how the Bank of Canada is keeping the exchange rate low by manipulating our interest rates. You keep misunderstanding the points I'm making or deliberately misinterpreting them.

Trump can certainly use the size of the US economy to impact all the world economies... but again, you're ignoring the fact that this will have the same affect on the US economy. We're all tied together and hurting one will generally result in hurting any that are connected - and the US is connected to more than Canada - and he's negatively affecting most of them. Canada is going to suffer. So is the USA you just don't want to admit it. Reminds me of Trump. Make a statement. Never admit you've made a mistake. Never admit that you're lying. Smile and say that you've got the biggest, best, largest, ever done before throughout history. Doesn't matter if it's patently false.

Semantics. Climate change and climate evolution are the same thing. Change/Evolution. the only difference is that the word evolution has a purportedly positive connotation. Didn't work out so well for the Neanderthal. The effects of climate change / evolution are measurable facts. We can argue about whether there is anything we can do to affect these changes and whether we should try to affect these changes but the fact that they're happening - and all effects have causes - is indisputable (poor word choice, I guess uneducated ignorant people Can dispute it, they'd just be entirely incorrect). Again. You can disagree with the course we should take or the reason why it is a political agenda, but it is real.
It's like people saying "I don't believe in life insurance"... it's real. Doesn't matter if you don't believe in using it, or believe that it's a scam.. it's real.

Happy Monday everyone.

Way too time consuming to provide an education on a forum, but read the attached. Briefly, the only positive thing of a weak currency is it makes exports less expensive, conversely imports are more expensive. A weak currency is also the sign of a weak economy. Regardless, did I misunderstand you to be a financial advisor? Of course no country would want to attack Canada because it would mean war with the US. Why would your government be a member of NATO without supporting it? Canada is rich in natural resources , yet no country would attack it……because everyone loves Canadians. You cannot possibly believe that crap? You are like my former girlfriend, you make excuses for everything. Have a good day everyone!
https://www.reuters.com/markets/chi...fs-some-canada-farm-food-products-2025-03-08/

 

[westwoody]

Dairy tariffs are just another Trump lie.
They only come into effect about a certain amount. Go check how much it is. Lots.
Trump spews this crap to keep his imbeciles agitated and to make them think he is fighting for them.

 

[westwoody]

GDP, the Dow and the NASDAQ have little to do with the standard of living or quality of life for citizens.
The “economy” might be fine according to the markets. But a large segment of the population is living paycheck to paycheck, not knowing of they will have a job or a place to live next month, your country is a shithole.
And nobody thinks it will happen to them…until they go to work and there’s a sign on the door…

 

[ChromeGasCap]

Dairy tariffs are just another Trump lie.
They only come into effect about a certain amount. Go check how much it is. Lots.
Trump spews this crap to keep his imbeciles agitated and to make them think he is fighting for them.

Like or hate supply management in our dairy industry, one of the biggest intended benefits is producing only what our own market requires (or close to it), so as to prevent over production and waste.
It has been modified, from original intent, by farmers want for profit, us trade issues, etc.
Dairy products shipped from Canada to the US are predominantly Cheese products.
The US exports much more dairy product into canada than it imports from canada.
Trump is literally looking for allowance to dump grossly over produced dairy into the canadian market. Supply management simply gets in the way of this.

 

[carvesg]

Canadian researchers have been invited to join the Research and innovation project Horizon Europe with funding.

Some try to kick us in the groin while others invite us in . Cooperation instead of rivalry that's a thought

 

[Motorman]

GDP, the Dow and the NASDAQ have little to do with the standard of living or quality of life for citizens.
The “economy” might be fine according to the markets. But a large segment of the population is living paycheck to paycheck, not knowing of they will have a job or a place to live next month, your country is a shithole.
And nobody thinks it will happen to them…until they go to work and there’s a sign on the door…

Many people everywhere will always live paycheck to paycheck. There are many reasons for it, but first is, the average individual is stupid about money. They use credit cards, finance vehicles, buy their 10 year old 22 baseball bats and a $4000 dollar electric bicycle. They want everything now and think they should lease a BMW. I have at least two neighbors who live in a multimillion dollar houses and live check to check. It has absolutely nothing to do with the strength of the economy. Not everyone everywhere will have the same standard of living. Life just doesn’t work like that. In the US 61% of the population collects some type of welfare. Anyway, this is hot off the press. It is the reason weeks ago I wrote, Canada should buckle up. I wasn’t trying to be nasty or mean, I was simply stating the facts. Canada produces 20,000 vehicles per day. Your politicians are not crying about the tariffs, they cry because they know if they lose auto jobs, it will be economically devastating.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/tru...s-stop-bleeding-us-economy/story?id=119591822

 

[carvesg]

Florida real estate market is on the verge of crashing according to some reports .

Over 2 million empty dwellings and record high properties on the market . Canadian ex pats involved in the snowbirds market have 3 to 5 times the amount of listings than usual but nobody to sell them to as the Canadians are not going down. Primary reasons given is trump's executive order about illegal immigration that now requires filling a form for any stay over a month and finger printing if entering by land and carrying that form with you at all time , trump's tariffs and policies.

We will see

 

[Motorman]

Like or hate supply management in our dairy industry, one of the biggest intended benefits is producing only what our own market requires (or close to it), so as to prevent over production and waste.
It has been modified, from original intent, by farmers want for profit, us trade issues, etc.
Dairy products shipped from Canada to the US are predominantly Cheese products.
The US exports much more dairy product into canada than it imports from canada.
Trump is literally looking for allowance to dump grossly over produced dairy into the canadian market. Supply management simply gets in the way of this.

Agreed, but the more supply, the less price, which will benefit consumers. Canada is attempting to protect family dairy‘s and Trump is trying to get American farmers more money. They both put their constituents first, as they should.

 

[ChromeGasCap]

Agreed, but the more supply, the less price, which will benefit consumers. Canada is attempting to protect family dairy‘s and Trump is trying to get American farmers more money. They both put their constituents first, as they should.

Waste is Waste.
Over production of goods of any type is not good, be it dairy or paper plates.
It is only good for our current economic system which in its current state only stands to benefit the extremely rich anyway, and they keep the masses happy with little bones like cheap dairy and cheap cigarette lighters.

 

[Motorman]

Florida real estate market is on the verge of crashing according to some reports .

Over 2 million empty dwellings and record high properties on the market . Canadian ex pats involved in the snowbirds market have 3 to 5 times the amount of listings than usual but nobody to sell them to as the Canadians are not going down. Primary reasons given is trump's executive order about illegal immigration that now requires filling a form for any stay over a month and finger printing if entering by land and carrying that form with you at all time , trump's tariffs and policies.

We will see

I actually have two small apartment buildings in Tampa. what you wrote is true, but not for the reason you state. The main driver of the people leaving Florida are insurance rates tripled almost overnight. Like California, too many disasters. People can’t even buy insurance, therefore it is difficult to obtain a mortgage. Plus COVID brought a huge building boom and now too many homes on the market. To address it, Desantis wants zero property tax. I expect Texas to follow. Just because a state doesn’t have income tax, doesn’t mean you don’t pay tax. Both Florida and Texas don’t have income tax, but if you drive, toll roads and other stuff cost big bucks. Texas also has huge property taxes, probably even higher than California. The scamdemic caused a lot of people to become irrational. I am starting to see a lot of Texas and Florida plates in Idaho. Previously it was just California, Washington and Oregon.

 

[carvesg]

Goo

I actually have two small apartment buildings in Tampa. what you wrote is true, but not for the reason you state. The main driver of the people leaving Florida are insurance rates tripled almost overnight. Like California, too many disasters. People can’t even buy insurance, therefore it is difficult to obtain a mortgage. Plus COVID brought a huge building boom and now too many homes on the market. To address it, Desantis wants zero property tax. I expect Texas to follow. Just because a state doesn’t have income tax, doesn’t mean you don’t pay tax. Both Florida and Texas don’t have income tax, but if you drive, toll roads and other stuff cost big bucks. Texas also has huge property taxes, probably even higher than California. The scamdemic caused a lot of people to become irrational. I am starting to see a lot of Texas and Florida plates in Idaho. Previously it was just California, Washington and Oregon.

Good point about the insurance rates. A Floridian friend of mine north of Tampa mentioned it last spring.

The listings from the snowbirds unloading on the east coast would be compounding things in the market according to some brokers . It would be 3 times worst than in the early 2000s when the CDN dollar was at 65 cents so the trump effect would still apply for that segment of seller/prospect purchasers.

We will see if its temporary or longer lasting

 

[westwoody]

Canadian researchers have been invited to join the Research and innovation project Horizon Europe with funding.

Some try to kick us in the groin while others invite us in . Cooperation instead of rivalry that's a thought

My father was a scientist so I had the privilege of seeing “big science” firsthand.
We went to Brookhaven and it was amazing how many countries were co operating on large projects. CERN involves dozens of countries, not just European.
No country can do big science on their own nowadays. The US is well on its way to being shut out and it’s actively destroying its higher education system.
Instead of high tech crown jewels like the Lockheed Skunk Works and Cal Tech, americans will top out at making shitbox Dodge Rams.

 

[masterpoonhunter]

My father was a scientist so I had the privilege of seeing “big science” firsthand.
We went to Brookhaven and it was amazing how many countries were co operating on large projects. CERN involves dozens of countries, not just European.
No country can do big science on their own nowadays. The US is well on its way to being shut out and it’s actively destroying its higher education system.
Instead of high tech crown jewels like the Lockheed Skunk Works and Cal Tech, americans will top out at making shitbox Dodge Rams.

Its incredibly sad to see the dismantling of US science. Whether you are politically right, left, center, alt whatever, every country, certainly so called advanced countries, need funding for their R&D and everyone needs to understand that. The impacts of this are coming ....
The convicted felon and his nazi master laid off 1000's and cut funding drastically to the NIH this past month. Globally the NIH has dominated health research with budgets greater than all other institutes from all other countries put together. Sure big pharma ultimately benefits but so does little pharma, so does any surgical or preventative procedure and so does your GP. The world loses in health care with these cuts. And more coming from the fucking insanity that is the US administration today. Fucked up is putting it mildly.