USA Political Discussion Thread 2025
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No matter their opinion of Trump, it was disgraceful for Democrats to sit stone-faced when a kid with cancer, victims of crime and injured police were honoured, and common sense things like announcing new manufacturing plants, arresting criminals and deporting gang members were announced. That's putting party over what the majority of Americans would think would be positives.
Most people on this thread attack Trump and his supporters. My question, why doesn’t Canada stand up and provide security for Ukraine? Only answer, it is like Europe, Canada doesn’t have the ability. If Canada can make more money selling oil to places other than America, why doesn’t Canada do it? One answer, it cannot. Debit to GDP is like debit to income ratio, except on a larger scale. Canadian news and Canadian politicians all indicate the destruction of Canada’s economy is eminent if the tariffs are imposed. Even without the tariffs, Canada is very close to a recession. The US economy is much more stable. I get the national pride stuff and respect it, but burying your head in the sand will not put food on the table. I hate politicians, they can’t be trusted. Trump has his faults, but for the most part, he doesn’t beat around the bush. He is 78 and a billionaire with nothing to lose. The only thing he can gain is a place in history, good, or bad. I believe he is very passionate about MAGA, which is a good thing for America. Whether or not he succeeds, time will tell. Regardless, this tariff thing, there is absolutely nothing wrong with charging a tariff to countries that charge the US tariffs. There is nothing wrong with bringing manufacturing, especially US companies, back to America. There is absolutely nothing wrong with making countries support a military to defend themselves. If NATO countries put more money toward defense, Russia would not have invaded Ukraine. Instead , NATO is dependent on the American taxpayer, of which, I am one. Canada is one of the worst in not funding NATO. Together we are stronger, but a tree trunk can only support some many dead branches. I also get the fact that you guys are taxed to death and do not want to pay more. People in my income bracket are also taxed to death and I do not want to pay taxes to support other countries. I own a company in California and because I haven’t been there in five years, last week I took a road trip to the Bay Area. As soon as I crossed the California state line, I noticed the freeway is crumbling. From Sacramento to San Jose, homeless tents were everywhere. I paid $5.79 per gallon at a Chevron station in Vacaville. The exact same company charged me $3.71 in Idaho. I had to drive to a steakhouse around the corner from the hotel because it was not safe to walk. I pay a ton of business tax in California and the place is a shit hole, needles on the street, human defecation in public parks and people strung out on dope everywhere. That was just outside the Silicon Valley. Yet it is the highest taxed state in the nation. California cops earn a lot of money and when they retire, most take their six figure pensions to another state. Liberal policies ran that place into the ground. My point, no matter how much a person is taxed, it is how the money is spent that counts.
Whatever inflation is caused will be a blip compared to what Ford and Trudeau described will occur in Canada! Hopefully they will come to a fair deal. However, if I was a Canadian voter I would ask, why Canada is not prepared. Trump campaigned on it, yet your political leaders act shocked. Actually I am sure it will work out in the wash. I just want to see Trump strike a cartel in Mexico. If that happens, I will bet a $1000 the Mexican President will be hung from an over crossing. I also bet if we see President Z at the WH again, he will be wearing a suit. Attached is the Biden Administration and as a former Marine, his policies cost America treasure and lives!
It’s a good thing I’m not president or prime minister of anything because I’d rather burn my country to the ground with me in it, than kiss trumps ass lol.
I really hope Zelenskyy doesn’t wear a suit for those judgmental Putin ass kissing assholes
I really hope Zelenskyy doesn’t wear a suit for those judgmental Putin ass kissing assholes
And it's funny to watch Americans cheerlead on the destruction of their own country and it's former place in the world.
Yes ! They are walking and dancing on embers with smiley faces chanting it won't burn, it won't burn , it won't burn . We will see .... About their Disillusion....
Even if some industry start diversifying or returning to the states .. How long do they think it will take ? They are scaring a huge portion of the workforce from construction sites with ICE if even a plant is underway.
For any industry a new factory we are talking about 3 to 6 years from planning , drawings, purchasing equipment, set up from millwright teams that alone takes months or years for complicated industries.
Little trump wants to pass to prosperity as great president when tariffs have always proven to have the opposite effects on the economy as whole as we all know
I think language like this is problematic. Making it an us vs them kind of thing when it’s not democrats vs republicans. It’s people vs trump.
I had an American client today tell me he regretted voting for Trump. That he believed that Trump would make a difference. That he didn’t think Trump would be as bad as he is being.
It’s ok if you still want to live in a bubble. But just call them people. The people were holding little paddles that made you want to play pickleball.
This loyalty to one side or another isn’t healthy and creates a huge divide between people. I get that it’s fun. But it’s part of the problem. Loyalty to a horrible party keeps people voting against their own interests.
Own the libs = equals I’m dumb and can’t think for myself
I don't get it. Is this supposed to distract from Trump being a moron or something?
So, now Trump is saying he wants to do away with income taxes, and finance everything with tariffs.
Of course his supporters are too ignorant to understand they'll be paying those tariffs, while the billionaires get off scot-free.
America has become too stupid to fix.
Of course his supporters are too ignorant to understand they'll be paying those tariffs, while the billionaires get off scot-free.
America has become too stupid to fix.
Yep trump's followers can't do the math while trump's and Musk's accountants are salivating even if they know this to be unrealistic.
Wealth transfer to the wealthiest in society and the Maga followers will clap and cheer.
At 49 IQ someone starts barking for no reason and that type of reasoning hovers around 50 ...or we are dangerously close...
its impossible! the US budget last year was $4.9T... total imports $3.2T. so if you had a 100% import tariff on all goods you'd still wouldn't make it. hilarious.
the clips of Lutnick loosing his mind on TV are priceless right now... this guy is called the "Commerce Secretary"?
Watch Top Trump Advisor LOSE HIS SH*T as BAD NEWS POURS IN!
This is pretty wild
So, this here is the easiest-to-understand breakdown of the Elon Musk / JD Vance / Peter Thiel / Curtis Yarvin / tekdestruktors agenda currently ambushing the USA. If you're still in the dark as to what Musk and DOGE are actually up to, I urge you to read this. It's by Shane Almgren, who has authored a couple of books on adjacent topics ('The Trumpland Diaries' and 'Conspiracy Christianity') and has been investigating the above-mentioned people for a while. Yes, it's a bit long, but not really. He's made it chatty. (This is an excerpt from a longer piece.) Please read and share—
"Finally, we've got a third group—the one that's responsible for all the chaos Elon and DOGE are causing. Their agenda is actually far more extreme than either Project 2025 or the [Christian Reconstructionists/Dominionists]. And the scary thing is, they're already implementing their freakish plan at warp speed while most of the country is busy bickering about all the quaint Project 2025 garbage (and Trump's usual unending fire hose of idiotic nonsense).
There's a few key players we're gonna have to cover some backstory for, namely Elon Musk, JD Vance, a guy you might've heard of by the name of Peter Thiel, and a guy you almost certainly haven't, Curtis Yarvin. These guys are all connected in a mildly horrifying way and we're about to unpack it all...
Once upon a time in the 90's, Elon Musk founded a small company called X.com (No, not Twitter—a different X.com. Dude just has an inexplicable fixation with the letter X). X was a fledgling digital banking service that allowed people to transact with vendors and each other without cash, checks, or plastic.
At the same time Musk was building out X, another young entrepreneur, a German immigrant named Peter Thiel, was building a very similar money-transfer service right across town called Confinity. Rather than compete with each other, Musk and Thiel decided to merge their two companies in 1999, with Musk named CEO of the new company. Shortly after the merger, Musk was fired as CEO by the board, who replaced him with Thiel. After Thiel took over, the company's name was changed to "PayPal.” You may have heard of it.
PayPal attracted some of the most promising young talent in Silicon Valley, and its early members wielded so much power and influence in the tech space that they became collectively known as the "PayPal Mafia."
Besides Musk and Thiel, the PayPal Mafia included:
• Steven Chen, Chad Hurley, and Jawed Karim (co-founders of YouTube)
• Russel Simmons and Jeremy Stoppelman (co-founders of Yelp)
• Max Levchin (current CEO of Affirm)
• Roelof Botha (partner at Sequoia Capital)
• David Sacks (Founder of Geni.com and Yammer, Trump’s new “AI/Crypto Czar”)
• Reed Hoffman (founder of Linkedin, early investor in Facebook, currently on the board at Microsoft)
• Jack Selby (co-founder of Clarium Capital with Peter Thiel)
• Yishan Wong (CEO of Reddit, founder of Terraformation Inc)
• Premal Shah (founder of Kiva, on the board at Change.org)
Plus a dozen others. The PayPal Mafia churned out a Who's Who in the Big Tech space, with nearly everyone involved becoming billionaires many times over. Today, it's one of the wealthiest and most influential collection of individuals, not just in America, but in the entire world.
In 2002, eBay acquired Paypal for $1.5 billion. Although no longer officially with PayPal after being ousted, Elon still held around 10% of the company shares and netted roughly $160 million in the sale.
So that's the Peter Thiel-Elon Musk connection–they co-founded PayPal together.
Now let's see how JD Vance is tied into this crew.
In 2011, Peter Thiel gave a talk at Yale where JD Vance was attending law school, changing the course of Vance's life, as JD recounts it. Vance called Thiel "possibly the smartest person" he ever met, and decided to pivot from a career in law to one in venture capital. In 2015, JD joined the Thiel-founded Mithril Capital, with Thiel as his personal mentor.
In 2016, Vance published "Hillbilly Elegy: A Memoir of a Family and Culture in Crisis," thrusting his name into the national spotlight for the first time. It was at this same time that Vance, unencumbered by any political aspirations or pretense and therefore free to speak his actual mind, sent his Yale roommate an email regarding America's leading presidential candidate, Donald Trump, that read: "I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical asshole like Nixon who wouldn't be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he's America's Hitler. How's that for discouraging?")
Vance left Thiel's firm in 2017 and joined a D.C.-based investment firm. Then he launched his own VC firm, Narya Capital, in 2019 with financial backing from Thiel, billionaire VC capitalist Mark Andreessen, and former Google CEO Eric Schmidt.
For reasons we'll get to in just a minute, around the time the pandemic was starting to wind down, Peter Thiel decided it was finally time for him to own a U.S. Senator and start pulling some long-awaited political strings. He figured that since he'd funded Vance's VC firm and essentially owned Vance already, he'd just migrate that ownership from the private sector to the public.
Because JD Vance had been an open critic of Donald Trump during Trump's entire first term, Thiel invited Vance down to Mar A Lago to smooth things over in hopes of getting an endorsement from Orange Jesus. Thiel informed Vance of his plans to make him a Senator, so Vance scrapped all his previous principles, decided power was “more gooder” than having any convictions, kissed Trump's ring, and earned the endorsement.
Thiel, for his part, poured an ungodly amount of his own money into Vance's Senate campaign—about $15 million—marking the largest donation to a single Senate candidate in American history. In addition to his personal $15 mil, Thiel also recruited 10 major donors for Vance, including a couple old tech buddies from the PayPal Mafia who chipped in a million each.
So, if you ever found yourself wondering how the author of "Hillbilly Elegy," a lawyer-turned-venture capitalist with no political experience or aspirations and a vocal critic of Donald Trump came out of nowhere and managed to snag Trump's endorsement and win a Senate seat in his first foray into politics, there's your explanation: Peter Thiel orchestrated, arranged, and funded the entire thing. A tech billionaire bought himself a Senator.
Now, the next question is Why? This is where it starts to get scary. It's time to meet the final character in our story, Curtis Yarvin.
Yarvin is a software developer and tech entrepreneur who started the Unqualified Reservations blog in 2003 under the pen name Mencius Moldbug. He's perhaps best known for founding the anti-egalitarian, anti-democratic philosophical movement known as the Dark Enlightenment or neo-reactionary movement (NRx).
Like most people, Yarvin sees a ton of problems in society. But unlike most people, the problems he sees—and his solutions to those problems—are dystopian fringe at best, and democracy-ending suicide at worst.
In a nutshell, Yarvin's Dark Enlightenment political worldview is that the REAL power in the U.S. resides in an informal collaboration of universities and the mainstream media (that he calls "the Cathedral") which collude to sway public opinion. He admires the former Chinese Communist leader Deng Xiaoping for his "pragmatic and market-oriented authoritarianism," believes America's commitment to equality and justice "erodes social order," and advocates for an American "monarch" to dissolve elite academic institutions and media outlets asap.
A regular speaker at various Libertarian and techno-fascist conferences, Yarvin's position is that democratic governments are inefficient and wasteful and should be replaced with sovereign corporations whose "shareholders" elect an executive with total power over the country/corporation. As Yarvin explains it, "Unencumbered by liberal-democratic procedures, the executive could rule like a CEO-Monarch."
And just in case it still isn't abundantly clear what Curtis Yarvin thinks is the solution to what ails America, here it is in his most straightforward phrasing: "If Americans want to change their government, they're going to have to get over their dictator-phobia."
Yes, Curtis Yarvin is an unapologetic proponent of dictatorships since "there's no real difference between a dictator and a CEO, and corporations under the rule of a CEO appear to work just fine." As he puts it, "Nations like the United States are outdated software systems" that need to be "broken up into smaller entities called 'patchworks' which would be controlled by tech corporations."
As he put it in an interview with the NY Times on Jan 18, "Democracy is done."
Now, I know what you're thinking.
"Shane, this Yarvin dude is clearly off his rocker. Nobody in their right mind would take this "Corporate Monarchy" nonsense seriously. Why are you wasting everyone's time explaining in detail the techno-fascist-manifesto ramblings of some internet pop philosopher who calls himself 'Mencius Moldbug?' Dude sounds like he's living in some Matrix-meets-Hunger-Games dystopian fantasy world. Surely NOBODY takes this dude's crazy ideas seriously!"
That's where you would be wrong.
Perilously wrong.
Two of Curtis Yarvin's biggest disciples and advocates for his technocratic ideas are...
Peter Thiel and Vice President JD Vance, the MAGA heir apparent.
The three of them have been friends since at least 2009 after Yarvin's writings and ideologies became super popular within the PayPal Mafia circle. (If you’ve got an hour and a half to waste, here’s Vance on the Jack Murphy Live Podcast name-dropping Yarvin and spewing a few of his more sinister ideas.)
See, people forget that billionaires have political ideologies just like everyone else. And remember, most peoples' political ideologies are generally tailored to improve the life of the person holding them. Democracy sounds great if you're a peasant living under a king with no say in how things are run. But in what way would democracy improve your life if you're a multi-billionaire who can buy politicians? Once you're up that high on the food chain, democracy is no longer a step UP, it's a step DOWN.
So, all these filthy rich, filthy powerful tech bros have jumped on board with turning America into a corporation run by a CEO with authoritarian power. According to them, the masses don't need to be voting – the masses are idiots. (Or as Yarvin puts it, "The masses are asses.") The PayPal Mafia has no interest in becoming beholden to the whims of a bunch of blue collar workers from Appalachia. If they're gonna be free to live their best lives, they're gonna need to unshackle themselves from the "masses who can't even figure life out enough to afford groceries."
Put bluntly, those who can write a check for a few $billion and not even notice it's gone are not interested in the opinions of those whining about the cost of 12 eggs.
As Peter Thiel once wrote in a Cato essay, "I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible.”
Now, supposing they were actually going to attempt to pull this techno-coup off, what would that look like in practice?
Thankfully, Yarvin has had the plan mapped out for years with a little strategy he's given the acronym RAGE: Retire All Government Employees.
It would look exactly like what we're all looking at.
Elon's "haphazard, chaotic coup" of federal agencies is anything but. This has been the plan all along by these Yarvin acolytes: gut the federal workforce—either by mass firings or incentivizing them to resign—crippling the entire government in the process, at which point Big Tech corporate solutions that just so happen to already be on hand can step in and take over the reigns of running our government.
Since you could never get away with doing this as a blatant hostile takeover, you just frame the entire exercise as an "audit to weed out fraud and corruption," then watch the gatekeepers roll out the red carpets and cheer the whole takeover on!
I know it sounds like tin-foil-hat conspiracy, but LOOK at what's happening in front of your eyes.
Isn't it a little weird that JD Vance came out of nowhere to win a Senate seat? And weirder still that Peter Thiel managed to convince Trump to make this virtual nobody his running mate even though Vance was the most unpopular VP pick in polling history?
Wasn't it a bit strange that Donald Trump told a bunch of Evangelicals at a rally, "Vote for me this one time and I'll make sure you never have to vote again?" What the hell did that mean?
Isn't it slightly too coincidental that Peter Thiel's original business partner Elon Musk is currently running roughshod through the American government doing EXACTLY what Curtis Yarvin said needs to happen?
This isn't conspiracy land at this point. These dudes told everyone what they wanted to do, and then they started doing it while we all watch dumbfounded. The Left is going, "Surely they can't be doing what it sure as hell looks like they're doing—taking over the government!" and the Right is just...cheering them on because it "makes the libtard snowflakes cry."
So there's your explanation.
Elon Musk, JD Vance, and Peter Thiel are executing a long-planned agenda to take over the government. Donald Trump is just a dementia-addled old man along for the ride, ranting about windmills and magnets and taking over canals, and content to just sign large pieces of papers for the TV cameras all day.
Hopefully, the chaos makes a little more sense now."
Here is the full piece on his Trumpland Diary fb page: https://www.facebook.com/TrumplandDiary/posts/pfbid02LgYiTeQmG4jCiQ96dSR8GMgMe7azbgHdmenrwCsjfo4EQdj9ymF9gcstRHYXVHfPl
So, this here is the easiest-to-understand breakdown of the Elon Musk / JD Vance / Peter Thiel / Curtis Yarvin / tekdestruktors agenda currently ambushing the USA. If you're still in the dark as to what Musk and DOGE are actually up to, I urge you to read this. It's by Shane Almgren, who has authored a couple of books on adjacent topics ('The Trumpland Diaries' and 'Conspiracy Christianity') and has been investigating the above-mentioned people for a while. Yes, it's a bit long, but not really. He's made it chatty. (This is an excerpt from a longer piece.) Please read and share—
"Finally, we've got a third group—the one that's responsible for all the chaos Elon and DOGE are causing. Their agenda is actually far more extreme than either Project 2025 or the [Christian Reconstructionists/Dominionists]. And the scary thing is, they're already implementing their freakish plan at warp speed while most of the country is busy bickering about all the quaint Project 2025 garbage (and Trump's usual unending fire hose of idiotic nonsense).
There's a few key players we're gonna have to cover some backstory for, namely Elon Musk, JD Vance, a guy you might've heard of by the name of Peter Thiel, and a guy you almost certainly haven't, Curtis Yarvin. These guys are all connected in a mildly horrifying way and we're about to unpack it all...
Once upon a time in the 90's, Elon Musk founded a small company called X.com (No, not Twitter—a different X.com. Dude just has an inexplicable fixation with the letter X). X was a fledgling digital banking service that allowed people to transact with vendors and each other without cash, checks, or plastic.
At the same time Musk was building out X, another young entrepreneur, a German immigrant named Peter Thiel, was building a very similar money-transfer service right across town called Confinity. Rather than compete with each other, Musk and Thiel decided to merge their two companies in 1999, with Musk named CEO of the new company. Shortly after the merger, Musk was fired as CEO by the board, who replaced him with Thiel. After Thiel took over, the company's name was changed to "PayPal.” You may have heard of it.
PayPal attracted some of the most promising young talent in Silicon Valley, and its early members wielded so much power and influence in the tech space that they became collectively known as the "PayPal Mafia."
Besides Musk and Thiel, the PayPal Mafia included:
• Steven Chen, Chad Hurley, and Jawed Karim (co-founders of YouTube)
• Russel Simmons and Jeremy Stoppelman (co-founders of Yelp)
• Max Levchin (current CEO of Affirm)
• Roelof Botha (partner at Sequoia Capital)
• David Sacks (Founder of Geni.com and Yammer, Trump’s new “AI/Crypto Czar”)
• Reed Hoffman (founder of Linkedin, early investor in Facebook, currently on the board at Microsoft)
• Jack Selby (co-founder of Clarium Capital with Peter Thiel)
• Yishan Wong (CEO of Reddit, founder of Terraformation Inc)
• Premal Shah (founder of Kiva, on the board at Change.org)
Plus a dozen others. The PayPal Mafia churned out a Who's Who in the Big Tech space, with nearly everyone involved becoming billionaires many times over. Today, it's one of the wealthiest and most influential collection of individuals, not just in America, but in the entire world.
In 2002, eBay acquired Paypal for $1.5 billion. Although no longer officially with PayPal after being ousted, Elon still held around 10% of the company shares and netted roughly $160 million in the sale.
So that's the Peter Thiel-Elon Musk connection–they co-founded PayPal together.
Now let's see how JD Vance is tied into this crew.
In 2011, Peter Thiel gave a talk at Yale where JD Vance was attending law school, changing the course of Vance's life, as JD recounts it. Vance called Thiel "possibly the smartest person" he ever met, and decided to pivot from a career in law to one in venture capital. In 2015, JD joined the Thiel-founded Mithril Capital, with Thiel as his personal mentor.
In 2016, Vance published "Hillbilly Elegy: A Memoir of a Family and Culture in Crisis," thrusting his name into the national spotlight for the first time. It was at this same time that Vance, unencumbered by any political aspirations or pretense and therefore free to speak his actual mind, sent his Yale roommate an email regarding America's leading presidential candidate, Donald Trump, that read: "I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical asshole like Nixon who wouldn't be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he's America's Hitler. How's that for discouraging?")
Vance left Thiel's firm in 2017 and joined a D.C.-based investment firm. Then he launched his own VC firm, Narya Capital, in 2019 with financial backing from Thiel, billionaire VC capitalist Mark Andreessen, and former Google CEO Eric Schmidt.
For reasons we'll get to in just a minute, around the time the pandemic was starting to wind down, Peter Thiel decided it was finally time for him to own a U.S. Senator and start pulling some long-awaited political strings. He figured that since he'd funded Vance's VC firm and essentially owned Vance already, he'd just migrate that ownership from the private sector to the public.
Because JD Vance had been an open critic of Donald Trump during Trump's entire first term, Thiel invited Vance down to Mar A Lago to smooth things over in hopes of getting an endorsement from Orange Jesus. Thiel informed Vance of his plans to make him a Senator, so Vance scrapped all his previous principles, decided power was “more gooder” than having any convictions, kissed Trump's ring, and earned the endorsement.
Thiel, for his part, poured an ungodly amount of his own money into Vance's Senate campaign—about $15 million—marking the largest donation to a single Senate candidate in American history. In addition to his personal $15 mil, Thiel also recruited 10 major donors for Vance, including a couple old tech buddies from the PayPal Mafia who chipped in a million each.
So, if you ever found yourself wondering how the author of "Hillbilly Elegy," a lawyer-turned-venture capitalist with no political experience or aspirations and a vocal critic of Donald Trump came out of nowhere and managed to snag Trump's endorsement and win a Senate seat in his first foray into politics, there's your explanation: Peter Thiel orchestrated, arranged, and funded the entire thing. A tech billionaire bought himself a Senator.
Now, the next question is Why? This is where it starts to get scary. It's time to meet the final character in our story, Curtis Yarvin.
Yarvin is a software developer and tech entrepreneur who started the Unqualified Reservations blog in 2003 under the pen name Mencius Moldbug. He's perhaps best known for founding the anti-egalitarian, anti-democratic philosophical movement known as the Dark Enlightenment or neo-reactionary movement (NRx).
Like most people, Yarvin sees a ton of problems in society. But unlike most people, the problems he sees—and his solutions to those problems—are dystopian fringe at best, and democracy-ending suicide at worst.
In a nutshell, Yarvin's Dark Enlightenment political worldview is that the REAL power in the U.S. resides in an informal collaboration of universities and the mainstream media (that he calls "the Cathedral") which collude to sway public opinion. He admires the former Chinese Communist leader Deng Xiaoping for his "pragmatic and market-oriented authoritarianism," believes America's commitment to equality and justice "erodes social order," and advocates for an American "monarch" to dissolve elite academic institutions and media outlets asap.
A regular speaker at various Libertarian and techno-fascist conferences, Yarvin's position is that democratic governments are inefficient and wasteful and should be replaced with sovereign corporations whose "shareholders" elect an executive with total power over the country/corporation. As Yarvin explains it, "Unencumbered by liberal-democratic procedures, the executive could rule like a CEO-Monarch."
And just in case it still isn't abundantly clear what Curtis Yarvin thinks is the solution to what ails America, here it is in his most straightforward phrasing: "If Americans want to change their government, they're going to have to get over their dictator-phobia."
Yes, Curtis Yarvin is an unapologetic proponent of dictatorships since "there's no real difference between a dictator and a CEO, and corporations under the rule of a CEO appear to work just fine." As he puts it, "Nations like the United States are outdated software systems" that need to be "broken up into smaller entities called 'patchworks' which would be controlled by tech corporations."
As he put it in an interview with the NY Times on Jan 18, "Democracy is done."
Now, I know what you're thinking.
"Shane, this Yarvin dude is clearly off his rocker. Nobody in their right mind would take this "Corporate Monarchy" nonsense seriously. Why are you wasting everyone's time explaining in detail the techno-fascist-manifesto ramblings of some internet pop philosopher who calls himself 'Mencius Moldbug?' Dude sounds like he's living in some Matrix-meets-Hunger-Games dystopian fantasy world. Surely NOBODY takes this dude's crazy ideas seriously!"
That's where you would be wrong.
Perilously wrong.
Two of Curtis Yarvin's biggest disciples and advocates for his technocratic ideas are...
Peter Thiel and Vice President JD Vance, the MAGA heir apparent.
The three of them have been friends since at least 2009 after Yarvin's writings and ideologies became super popular within the PayPal Mafia circle. (If you’ve got an hour and a half to waste, here’s Vance on the Jack Murphy Live Podcast name-dropping Yarvin and spewing a few of his more sinister ideas.)
See, people forget that billionaires have political ideologies just like everyone else. And remember, most peoples' political ideologies are generally tailored to improve the life of the person holding them. Democracy sounds great if you're a peasant living under a king with no say in how things are run. But in what way would democracy improve your life if you're a multi-billionaire who can buy politicians? Once you're up that high on the food chain, democracy is no longer a step UP, it's a step DOWN.
So, all these filthy rich, filthy powerful tech bros have jumped on board with turning America into a corporation run by a CEO with authoritarian power. According to them, the masses don't need to be voting – the masses are idiots. (Or as Yarvin puts it, "The masses are asses.") The PayPal Mafia has no interest in becoming beholden to the whims of a bunch of blue collar workers from Appalachia. If they're gonna be free to live their best lives, they're gonna need to unshackle themselves from the "masses who can't even figure life out enough to afford groceries."
Put bluntly, those who can write a check for a few $billion and not even notice it's gone are not interested in the opinions of those whining about the cost of 12 eggs.
As Peter Thiel once wrote in a Cato essay, "I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible.”
Now, supposing they were actually going to attempt to pull this techno-coup off, what would that look like in practice?
Thankfully, Yarvin has had the plan mapped out for years with a little strategy he's given the acronym RAGE: Retire All Government Employees.
It would look exactly like what we're all looking at.
Elon's "haphazard, chaotic coup" of federal agencies is anything but. This has been the plan all along by these Yarvin acolytes: gut the federal workforce—either by mass firings or incentivizing them to resign—crippling the entire government in the process, at which point Big Tech corporate solutions that just so happen to already be on hand can step in and take over the reigns of running our government.
Since you could never get away with doing this as a blatant hostile takeover, you just frame the entire exercise as an "audit to weed out fraud and corruption," then watch the gatekeepers roll out the red carpets and cheer the whole takeover on!
I know it sounds like tin-foil-hat conspiracy, but LOOK at what's happening in front of your eyes.
Isn't it a little weird that JD Vance came out of nowhere to win a Senate seat? And weirder still that Peter Thiel managed to convince Trump to make this virtual nobody his running mate even though Vance was the most unpopular VP pick in polling history?
Wasn't it a bit strange that Donald Trump told a bunch of Evangelicals at a rally, "Vote for me this one time and I'll make sure you never have to vote again?" What the hell did that mean?
Isn't it slightly too coincidental that Peter Thiel's original business partner Elon Musk is currently running roughshod through the American government doing EXACTLY what Curtis Yarvin said needs to happen?
This isn't conspiracy land at this point. These dudes told everyone what they wanted to do, and then they started doing it while we all watch dumbfounded. The Left is going, "Surely they can't be doing what it sure as hell looks like they're doing—taking over the government!" and the Right is just...cheering them on because it "makes the libtard snowflakes cry."
So there's your explanation.
Elon Musk, JD Vance, and Peter Thiel are executing a long-planned agenda to take over the government. Donald Trump is just a dementia-addled old man along for the ride, ranting about windmills and magnets and taking over canals, and content to just sign large pieces of papers for the TV cameras all day.
Hopefully, the chaos makes a little more sense now."
Here is the full piece on his Trumpland Diary fb page: https://www.facebook.com/TrumplandDiary/posts/pfbid02LgYiTeQmG4jCiQ96dSR8GMgMe7azbgHdmenrwCsjfo4EQdj9ymF9gcstRHYXVHfPl
