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I noticed the other day some information about Elon musk that I had fogotten about. Some years back he lived for a time in Waldeck, Saskatchewan. Now it’s making sense why he’s such a weirdo.
 
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I was raised to be kind and empathetic towards others. I’m also quite free spirited. I don’t gamble (period) or do anything I really don’t want to do.
So I would never be in the position either of you are in.

But I do think you need to lighten up. Just a little. Life is short. Enjoy the little moments and let strangers enjoy theirs.

You’re probably right you might have been banned. But it never happened so it doesn’t matter.
I do enjoy my life... very much so. Just because I want to hold someone to an agreement he very enthusiastically made has nothing to do with it whatsoever. He lost. If he cannot keep his word over something as trivial in life as not being able to post in ONE thread on an escort related board for a year.....its just hard to find sympathy.
 

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I do enjoy my life... very much so. Just because I want to hold someone to an agreement he very enthusiastically made has nothing to do with it whatsoever. He lost. If he cannot keep his word over something as trivial in life as not being able to post in ONE thread on an escort related board for a year.....its just hard to find sympathy.
You have sympathy for the guy who said he knew nothing about 2025 but then enacted it and appointed its author to government; who moved to overturn RvWade; who promised to lower egg prices yet has higher grocery bills; who cheated on his wife with a porn star and lied about it...

Dont make yourself out be be the grand arbiter of honerable behavior, slick.

As for TDS and getting 'lynched' , *YOU* are posting an unpopular opinion on a polictical discussion thread - if you got banned it would have been beacause of something *you* had said. Stop blaming everyone elese for your capriciousness, drink your own fuking medicine, and take some responsibility for your own postings for once.
 

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I noticed the other day some information about Elon musk that I had fogotten about. Some years back he lived for a time in Waldeck, Saskatchewan. Now it’s making sense why he’s such a weirdo.
His mom was born in Regina. He worked on his relative's farm.
Probably sucked at that too.
 

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Is it just me....or is the US going to state on Monday:

"Mexico and Canada have agreed to match the US's tariffs on China. Furthermore they have addressed our concerns with fentanyl and illegal immigrants.The US will not impose the 25% tariffs."

Reasons are Trump et al realize there will be a shitstorm of concerns in the US when the populace finally wakes up to the negative aspects (steep rise in prices in some areas eyc.) AND Trump realizes he is beating a dead horse about annexation.

We shall see.
It's just you.
 

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His mom was born in Regina. He worked on his relative's farm.
Probably sucked at that too.
Probably why he got into space, cars, social media, and spawning demon children...
 
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if would have been a lot better for the US if that bullet had been an inch to the right.
Yup.

What a shit-show that presser was. What an insult to Ukrainians that they are not only being extorted by the backstabbing USA, but they are supposed to be thankful for the betrayal?
Do the Americans really expect Zelensky just kiss the ring and become as much of a bitch as JD Vance did?


Anyways KARMA will kick those American voters in the teeth soon enough with rising price of inflation due to tariffs.
Only if the world gets together and retaliates with tariffs, sanctions and embargos designed to cripple the US economy, send their inflation roaring upwards and investors fleeing like rats from a sinking ship.
Trump wants to have his cake and eat others' too, and the world must not let him.


Trump uses hyperbole as a measuring stick when making policy. So when it comes to saying making Canada part of the US is in the interest of the security of the US ( Like he said about Greenland and the Panama Canal ) it’s not hyperbolic nonsense in his mind.
America won’t be seeking any agreement with Canadians to “ JOIN “ the US either. Why rent when you can buy , why buy when you can take ?
Hitler didn’t ask for an approving nod from Europe in World War II either .
I absolutely don’t want Canada to be 51 or a territory ( basically we’d be the whore up North ready and waiting to bend over , gun to head , when they need something )
We all have to take his threats seriously.

Yup. Scumbags like Trump think just wanting something gives them the right to take it, and they never take "no" for an answer. Canada needs to be arming for war to defend our own country.



So I was at a social gathering of my friends yesterday. Just a bunch of old guys, 90% white, 90% over 50, mostly moderates or right wing. We had one fellow there who was trying to convince us that we should literally should sell out our Canada to the US, take the money. He was saying that Kevin O'Leary was the guy who could lead us into a brilliant deal. He didn't get any takers. The guy is retired from the military and the police. I wonder how deep the US leaning is within the military and the police. My gut feeling is that most military will fight for our country. Not so sure about the police though, especially the older white dudes. Left me deflated.
It's very deep. Most of these guys live for the stereotype of what someone like that is "supposed to" support, and those stereotypes were all written south of the border. The slogans & memes they repeat all come from the USA; all these guys are active on policy and military social media forums that originate in the US. Plus for generations it was inconceivable to them that Canada was not bound in some way to follow the US lead in the Cold War and so on. There simply is not the depth of home-grown national security formulation; they cannot even formulate an independent conception of Canada's self-interests. All these "think tanks" have pushed the idea that Canada's defense priorities must follow the broad objectives of Washington, and that is generations-deep.

Just look at NORAD - yes, it is shared air defense command, but more than that it is Canada basically committing to help stop the US from getting nuked in a way which guarantees we'd be nuked by their enemy too. You have to look at how much "interoperability" is promoted in all of NATO over self-sufficiency, and how that mantra often dictates procurement decisions. Look what happens when Canada's government does something like refused to join the Iraq invasion - they howl "oh, we have disappointed our allies". But they are only referring to one ally, the USA, and that idea that the USA could be a a malign actor out in the world never occurs to them.

You also have to look at how the whole paradigm of police conduct here operates from the same instructional courses as US police, all those training modules and techniques; sometimes our guys trained by US contractors, others times ours are sent to train at US facilities. We get US style training, so we get US style policing with US style problems (racism, "steroid bro" thug behavior, you name it). I suppose it rises in tandem with the anti-police activism that we see imported into Canada by the activist circles - they also act likeyou can just copy & paste the US issues onto Canada. (One side imitates that "thin blue line" shit, the other t he "ACAB" shit - both sides of a conflict that is copied from the US culture war, not Canadian at all.)

So to answer your question: Even before this Trump shit, it was already clear that a lot of CAF personnel and RCMP/police (and CSIS, shhh) had what could be described as "confused loyalties", where the organizational culture has such an America-centric point of view.
 
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You have sympathy for the guy who said he knew nothing about 2025 but then enacted it and appointed its author to government; who moved to overturn RvWade; who promised to lower egg prices yet has higher grocery bills; who cheated on his wife with a porn star and lied about it...

Dont make yourself out be be the grand arbiter of honerable behavior, slick.

As for TDS and getting 'lynched' , *YOU* are posting an unpopular opinion on a polictical discussion thread - if you got banned it would have been beacause of something *you* had said. Stop blaming everyone elese for your capriciousness, drink your own fuking medicine, and take some responsibility for your own postings for once.
I risk being banned for posting an unpopular opinion in a political thread about a guy who won his election and controls the Senate, House and the White House and is more popular than he has ever been while popular opinion of Democrats in congress who you love is sitting at just over 20%? So overall it is not an unpopular opinion. On here it is but you seem blissfully unaware that this thread and its contributions for the most part are an anachronism.

Even your own side knows that your preferred candidates suck donkey balls. I try to imagine how anyone could vote for a party which has gaslit the public for over 4 years on their candidates mental capacity and been secretly running the country, hiding him from the public so they could keep their jobs. These are left wing progressives lol and Cenk suffers from the same malady most of you do.



Unfortunately for you I havent had to "drink my own fuking medicine" yet" old dude because I know I have to be careful about what and how I post on here. Geez I got reported for just making a play on one posters handle and referring to him as a Chihuahua.

And comparing a comment on honoring bets with who I would have chosen to vote for in the US election is one of the craziest comparison attempts I think I have ever come across. Its an absolutely ludicrous analogy...but then again...considering the source.....perhaps expected.



This egg price thing...I realize that it doesnt matter to you how many other promises he has already dealt with in his first month but....you do realize that there will probably be an egg shortage until summer right? When you cull millions of chickens to prevent a bird flu spread it takes time for the flock to regain its numbers and until then there will be a shortage of eggs and higher prices as a result. That happened under Bidens watch.

Just continue to be on the wrong side of virtually every 80/20 issue....women in mens sports, stopping the Ukraine war, wanting to protect illegal migrants, not looking into the massive government corruption in every department, keeping the failing Department of Education open......
 
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Is it just me....or is the US going to state on Monday:

"Mexico and Canada have agreed to match the US's tariffs on China. Furthermore they have addressed our concerns with fentanyl and illegal immigrants.The US will not impose the 25% tariffs."

Reasons are Trump et al realize there will be a shitstorm of concerns in the US when the populace finally wakes up to the negative aspects (steep rise in prices in some areas eyc.) AND Trump realizes he is beating a dead horse about annexation.

We shall see.

There is no point in Canada or Mexico falling for this "will they or won't they" shit. Trump will just move the goalposts as they get near, expecting more concessions and more obedience.

If it is just a negotiating tactic, the way to beat him is to start retaliating pain for pain, because Trump's strategy for success is predicated on the idea we are too "nice guy" to actually make them hurt.

If Trump really means this annexation shit (or in Mexico's case, military incursions "against cartels"), then we are in a war and the way we beat him is to do everything we can, in conjunction with other nations, to cripple the US economy and cause destabilizing civil unrest inside the USA. (That sounds like a dirty play, but the US MAGA cult is already doing that to us, using proxy groups up here to undermine our society and sovereignty with extremist strife, so such payback would be well deserved.)

Either way, there is no upside to reasoning with a guy who wants to make profits off our suffering, and who will never actually keep his word in any agreement you make.
Such bullies are when you get down to it, cowards and egoists, living a life of greed and treachery so they can get something for nothing - and that means they are never ready to suffer themselves. Bargaining with them is useless, and represents your own side wasting both time and goodwill. They only be deterred by actually doing damage to them, far beyond whatever they hoped to gain by initiating the conflict in the first place.
 
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My wild theory for the night:

Trump and his acolytes want the civil unrest that unemployment, a tanking economy and huge cuts to social services will bring. They will meet even peaceful protests with violence and lie about the cause. They want an excuse to declare martial law, and Trump will cling to power for years to come. They know that the cult will follow him no matter what. Mid term elections will not be free or fair.

I think about this clip a lot. He told them the plan when he was campaigning.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tr...ont-have-vote-after-this-election-2024-07-27/
 

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My wild theory for the night:

Trump and his acolytes want the civil unrest that unemployment, a tanking economy and huge cuts to social services will bring. They will meet even peaceful protests with violence and lie about the cause. They want an excuse to declare martial law, and Trump will cling to power for years to come. They know that the cult will follow him no matter what. Mid term elections will not be free or fair.
Following Hitler’s script.
Hitler used his SA stormtroopers to cause havoc in the streets. They fought rivals in brawls and disrupted rallies for opposing candidates. Then he purged them and murdered most of their leaders.
He declared a state of emergency and that was the end of democracy.
Trump would love to do the same. Watch for manufactured chaos and the creation of targeted enemies ie “immigrants” and “liberals”.
The real turning point will be the next general election. If he loses will he give up power? Will he suspend elections?
 

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There has been some talk about a 5k rebate check from the Doge savings. I am going to cash mine, if any of you anti trumpers don't want it I got 1st dibs on yours.
That sounds like chopping up the raft you're on, so that you can start a fire to stay warm on your wooden raft floating in the ocean.
There will probably be Doge savings... followed afterwards by monumental spending to cope with the problems caused by Doge saving. Typical politics.
 

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Not when they agree to it with enthusiasm. He was certain he was going to win and I was going to take the hit. She was supposedly leading in the polls at that time. But anyone with common sense could tell that the more she was exposed to the American public the post Convention "Joy"was going to wear thin. If Trump had lost and I started posting in this thread in mid February I would have been swarmed by the TDS clique on here, and the mod would more than likely have banned me. I doubt I would have gotten away with no punishment for this type of incursion. I was raised to honour agreements I made. I guess you were not.
I would never have made a bet about something that is merely an opinion. I'm not a gambling person. Then again, I also believe in owning up to your failings, learning from them, apologizing if appropriate and receiving forgiveness. I think the first few things have been done,.. even if they haven't that wouldn't bother me because the part that matters is the last step - forgiveness. If you can't forgive, then you need to take a look at yourself and figure out why, it's not the other person's problem. We don't grow as people if we don't face adversity, suffer, perhaps overcome, perhaps fail, and come out better on the other side. All you can do is your best, we're all flawed, that's what makes us human.
 

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I risk being banned for posting an unpopular opinion in a political thread about a guy who won his election and controls the Senate, House and the White House and is more popular than he has ever been while popular opinion of Democrats in congress who you love is sitting at just over 20%? So overall it is not an unpopular opinion. On here it is but you seem blissfully unaware that this thread and its contributions for the most part are an anachronism.
I've already noted why I think you should let it go.. not for the other guys sake but your own. I think it would be better for you as a person to stop holding on to the animosity. It's not healthy.
I agree with some of the things you've said, and you were, in fact correct that Trump would win. Keep in mind that a lot of what you're hearing is from people people who are upset and afraid over what they're seeing happen. I disagree that Trump being president is a good thing... in fact I think it's a terrible thing that will prove to be very bad for Canada, the USA and the rest of the world. I hope that I'm wrong. I would gladly apologize for being incorrect if it would only prove that Trump was a good thing. To be honest though, the best that Americans can hope for is that he ends up being overall better for America. I don't see in any wildly optimistic way that he'll be good for Canada or the rest of the world.
Do be patient. Your opinion has as much validity as anyone else's on here (even if I don't agree with you).
 

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Following Hitler’s script.
Hitler used his SA stormtroopers to cause havoc in the streets. They fought rivals in brawls and disrupted rallies for opposing candidates. Then he purged them and murdered most of their leaders.
He declared a state of emergency and that was the end of democracy.
Trump would love to do the same. Watch for manufactured chaos and the creation of targeted enemies ie “immigrants” and “liberals”.
The real turning point will be the next general election. If he loses will he give up power? Will he suspend elections?
The only problem is that Americans have too many guns. Really hard to take away guns.
 
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