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UhOh

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I like Hatrick advise... oh and never never give a statement to a cop ,,, that's what your lawyer is for, tell them a statement is coming ...
That should be in bold, never never never give a statement to a cop before talking to a lawyer.
 

soenn

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Thank you for all your advice. I hope he just intimidated me.
He didn't say anything except "go home" and when I asked he would call me later, then he said he would talk to my family. Also, the laywer wondered why he want to talk to my family, but I'm stool scared.
I will bring the letter to the laywer when I get it and never never give a statement to a cop.

Does anyone know how fast I get a letter?
If I get the letter, do I have a bad record affect my life?

Thanks a lot!
Sornn
 
SFMIKE! I only saw one officer. Is it unusual?
I didn't see the card thing.
One of sp in the home have a look through door hole, she said that he stand out there holding something like card not the badge in one hand and showed it to the door. I guess that is the something means police.
I thought it was unusual when you said there was only one cop there. It made me wonder if it was a real cop, to be honest with you.
 

soenn

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Hi All,
Thank you for all your advice and concerns.
It turn out he is a fake police. Shit!
I feel safe except my personal information was exposed.

Dear Susie, thank you for all your efforts and times.
If you need any help from me, please let me know.

Thanks,
Soenn
 

susi

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@the Meat Market!!!lol
ok people, for the record it was a real police officer and it was not a negative visit. there is no investigation and i spoke to the officer involved who assured me he will not be contacting soenn for any reason nor will he be contacting his family.

he was really nice and was sorry for the confusion.

susie
 

susi

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@the Meat Market!!!lol
ok people, for the record it was a real police officer and it was not a negative visit. there is no investigation and i spoke to the officer involved who assured me he will not be contacting soenn for any reason nor will he be contacting his family.

he was really nice and was sorry for the confusion.

susie
 

badbadboy

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do you have the police officers badge number? was he in uniform? do you know why they were there?

if you give me some more info i can prevent him from contacting anyone and get him into some trouble for violating the vpd's new policy of adult consentual sex work not being a priority.

please pm me any info you have and let me work on it for you. they are not supposed to be doing this kind of thing but that does not mean they aren't...

susie
So Susie

I take it when confronted with this sort of situation we are to become vigilant about getting their badge number and their reason for their intervention at a private residence?

My first inclination would be not to cooperate and demand an explanation about why they are actually visiting the residence. If we are "visiting a friend", how could they involve our family and divulge any information? Isn't divulging any personal information prejudicial to any pending case against you? Would the Crown not look upon this a a "tainted case"?
 

susi

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@the Meat Market!!!lol
the badge number, time, adress,etc. just makes it easier for me to find the officer and address any potential problems; like an officer unknowlingly violating a pooners rights and outing him to his family.

we need to work on communicating with police departments and ensure they understnad what is expected and what has been shown to a best practise in these cases.

in this case it worked out and we located him before anything happened. the police i spoke to today -3 seperate officers - "forgot" that prostitution had been decriminalized. it was nice to hear their tones change.

i am unsure how crown would view it but you mau have a point, it could be prejudicial. maybe someone with crown experience could pipe in here?

it seems like there's a little lag time between the laws coming down and police understanding what it means. they were all really nice and polite though and i don't think we're looking at increased enforcement here in the lower mainland.
 

badbadboy

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the badge number, time, adress,etc. just makes it easier for me to find the officer and address any potential problems; like an officer unknowlingly violating a pooners rights and outing him to his family.

we need to work on communicating with police departments and ensure they understnad what is expected and what has been shown to a best practise in these cases.

in this case it worked out and we located him before anything happened. the police i spoke to today -3 seperate officers - "forgot" that prostitution had been decriminalized. it was nice to hear their tones change.

i am unsure how crown would view it but you mau have a point, it could be prejudicial. maybe someone with crown experience could pipe in here?

it seems like there's a little lag time between the laws coming down and police understanding what it means. they were all really nice and polite though and i don't think we're looking at increased enforcement here in the lower mainland.

Thank you

I think it is important since we are now in some sort of Grey Area where the Government is now charged with coming up with a new set of laws that we also be informed as to what our rights are and how to deal with Law Enforcement who are not aware of our rights and how they are able to deal with us.
 

HunkyBill

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Communicating for the purposes of prostitution in a public place is one of the legal provisions overturned by the SCC. Being found in a common bawdy house is another, also overturned in the Bedford decision, and the likely grounds for the RCMP actions in the incident. A common bawdy house, as the law is written, is pretty much any place that is repeatedly used for acts of prositution. This definition will likely need to be changed so as to pass a Charter of Rights and Freedom challenge of any revised law the Gov't may care to enact.
In non legalize please. :eyebrows:
 
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In non legalize please. :eyebrows:
I will summarize what he wrote in simple language so the average pooner reading this will understand. There was recently a ruling in the best court in Canada which found that 1)talking to prostitutes in public should not be illegal 2)being found in house used by prostitutes should not be illegal. Before the best court in Canada made this decision, both 1 and 2 were illegal. So now the law is that doing any of these is not illegal.
 

hornygandalf

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Susi deserves our heartfelt thanks for the advocacy work she does on behalf of the ladies, but also us, the clients. Thank you Susi.
She also deserves more than that, and that is financial support for the stellar and very important work she is doing. There is another thread where the suggestion is made that there should be a structure or means to give her support. I would encourage all the gentleman here to consider providing financial support for Suzi as well. There is a bigger fight afoot that will affect the operations of this industry in the years ahead. The current situation is only temporary, and if we don't want the industry made illegal and forced underground, then there will need to be significant to support for Suzi and her colleagues advocating for a better and safer legal regime.
 
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westcoast555

Am I correct in understanding that unless you are being arrested or detained you can politely refuse to provide ID and leave?

You are legally required to produce ID only if:

1) You are operating a motor vehicle
2) You are in an establishment where liquor is being served

Is that correct?

My inclination would be to politely remind the officer that you are not required to produce ID and that unless you are under arrest you would like to leave.

Is that your understanding as well?
 

twotip

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Am I correct in understanding that unless you are being arrested or detained you can politely refuse to provide ID and leave?

You are legally required to produce ID only if:

1) You are operating a motor vehicle
2) You are in an establishment where liquor is being served

Is that correct?

My inclination would be to politely remind the officer that you are not required to produce ID and that unless you are under arrest you would like to leave.

Is that your understanding as well?

I always thought it was in your best interest to be honest with the police?
 

bcneil

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I leave my ID in the car, bring a spare wallet with cash only. I've never had an SP ask me to prove I am over 19, so I don't see the point in the risk
 

badbadboy

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Am I correct in understanding that unless you are being arrested or detained you can politely refuse to provide ID and leave?

You are legally required to produce ID only if:

1) You are operating a motor vehicle
2) You are in an establishment where liquor is being served

Is that correct?

My inclination would be to politely remind the officer that you are not required to produce ID and that unless you are under arrest you would like to leave.

Is that your understanding as well?
I was talking to an old friend who at that time was "affiliated" with some other bad guys. When he had left, I was confronted by undercover VPD and they demanded my ID. I refused and they stated my choice was being charged with"obstruction of justice" or showing them the ID. At the time I did not need any trouble brought my way so I gave up the ID as requested.
 

yagamiiii

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Hey susi,

A buddy of mine was just caught by RCMP going down on an sp in a well known burnaby massage parlor. He was so scared he gave up his id to the officers. He said the cops didn't charge him with anything, scanned everyone's ids, and left. he's still scared he might get outted. Does he have anything to fear? He's now thinking of moving lol
 

yagamiiii

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Hey susi,

A buddy of mine was just caught by RCMP going down on an sp in a well known burnaby massage parlor. He was so scared he gave up his id to the officers. He said the cops didn't charge him with anything, scanned everyone's ids, and left. he's still scared he might get outted. Does he have anything to fear? Is it gonna appear on any record that he was there? He's now thinking of moving lol
 

susi

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@the Meat Market!!!lol
can you tell me in a private message which parlor and what day/time? i will call and inquire about why they took action and the purpose of the id checks.....

i don't think he has anything to fear. generally they check id to see if anyone present is a known criminal or human trafficker/ organized crime. that would be as far as it goes.

i am feeling that these kinds of intrusions into our work spaces are a real problem. ....it doesn't happen in van but its like the rcmp are conducting "business as usual"....

please message me and tell me what you can about what happened....
 
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