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upgrading my television

GeorgeCurious

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finally decided to upgrade to a lcd or plasma (leaning towards lcd more so)
with some many units out there with the same specs
its hard to narrow down on one, especially when sales person are just trying to make a sale

was looking to spend up to 2500 something in the 42-46" range
does anyone have some good recommendations? as to why one is better then the other

thanks
 

greatshark

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I need some info on plasma and LCD tvs too.

1) with plasma you need a certain min. frequency I believe, otherwise with fast sports like hockey it will look blurry? Does anyone know what that number is? and is higher better or lower?

2) what about LCD? any issues with watching hockey? is there any min numbers i need to look at?
 

Lesbian Hunter

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Plasma TV have:
Possible burn issues.
Lower brightness.
Bigger, Thicker, Heavier, More fragile to different kinds of damages.
Low reselling value.
Consumes more electricity.
High repair costs, if repairable.

Plasmas look better than LCDs though. And I think they improved alot on their life-span which was the biggest issue of plasma. I think you can expect 3-60,000 hours which is enough for like 20 years... And they're cheaper as well.

I would still go for LCD because plasma is really a diminishing technology.
I don't think it'll be around for too long.

You can get LG 47" Scarlett 1080p with 120Hz refreshing rate for around $2000+tax. LG and Samsung definately have better pictures than other brands.
You can go with even larger screen if you give up 120Hz. It doesn't really make too much difference in my opinion compared to lower refresh rate TVs. You can tell the difference when you see it but I wouldn't spend $700 more for that much of improvement.
Also, even 1080p might not be needed depending on your usuage.
HD TV service only support 720p, and 1080p won't happen for a while. So 1080p is only good if you play Blue-ray discs including games like PS3.

I bought a LG 42" 720p few month ago for $1150 including tax. I don't play games, and I have no interest in collecting/renting Blue-ray movies. I usually download all my movies, and those 720p avi or mkv files are spectacular enough for me. I'll be happy for at least another 5+ years with this. And when times comes I'll just sell this for few hundred, invest another few, and get a much better TV that is equivalent to the ones that go for around $5000 these days.

I personally find buying a high-end tech electronics is always waste of money as prices drop dramatically every year. There's always a best compromising price range for any electronics, and for TVs I would say around $1000-1500.

At Bestbuy.ca
LG 47" 1080p = $1299
LG 47" 1080p 120Hz (Scarlett) = $1999
LG 52" 1080p = $1999
LG 52" 1080p 120Hz (Scarlett) = $2499

I would without hesitation go with the first one and buy a blue-ray player or decent surround speakers with the remaining $, but if budget was high enough I'd go with any one of next two. But I'd never go for $2499 one because it's over the price:tech compromise range. That price will drop to half in a year or so and I'd feel like shite unless I were rich...

Another word of advice... Don't forget to get a decent surge-protector. Salesman will scare you to get an over $100 ones and tell you it's a must, or they'll try to sell you an extended warranty plan that covers surge damage(Surge damage can cause dead pixels). But you can just go to Source by Circuit City and get just as good ones for half price or less. I would say protectors that can take 2000-3000 Jouls is enough and some of those are like $30. I went to Visions when I was shopping for mine, and the salesmand tried his ass off to scare me that I need to get a high-end surge protector and showed me $250 ones... I thanked him for the info and walked out...

Lastly, If you buy with a credit card. It'll give you another year of warranty on top of the original 1-year manufacturer's warranty. So 2 years manufacturer's warranty without extra cost. Any credit card offers that these days. So buy it with credit card and just pay it right back on your way home or within the grace-period, unless you have enough budget to purchase extended warranty at the shop.
Great information. Thanks for posting this.
 

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you cant tell in the stores what is going to look good in your home. The stores share a feed which is usually pretty bad plus the lighting makes the plasmas look horrible compared to the brighter LCDs.

However if you take the plasma home and dim the lights and adjust it right most plasmas will beat LCDs for picture quality.

I have a Plasma, tried LCD once and returned it the next day. The artifical fake brightness was no good to me. I can see maybe the state of the art high end LCDs being worth your time but the cost/quality ratio vs even a 720p Plamsa is way off.
 

GeorgeCurious

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thanks guys, I think chet is right with going with something mid grade now
I was the type of guy that would spend top dollar for top product but now with tech upgrading monthly that really makes no sense if I feel like upgrading in the near future

I went and looked around and this one caught my eye, the salesmen did a side by side demo with a few others in its class and this one had the best pic IMO
I ll go check out a few samsungs/sonys/sharp in this range as well
http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/prodd...atid=24558&PCName=tv_toshiba&logon=&langid=EN

thanks
 

HeMadeMeDoIt

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I totally disagree on that.
When I was shopping around for mine, I couldn't really tell the difference between LG and Samsung but I could tell they had better pictures than Sony and Sharp.
When it comes to LCD tech these Korean brands are just exceptional, and the demands in market and reviews clearly shows that.

But then we all have different eyes...
I agree! I love my LG and I was open to buying anything at the time except Sony.
 

iceman52633

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Stick to LCD

Plasma technology is not as strong as it could be, and repair is far and few between.
 

greatshark

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I was looking at a LCD tv that has 6 ms Response time. Is that good enough? I want to watch hockey and not see a blurred image.

And the TV has a refresh rate of 60 Hz - is that good? Is a lower number better or a higher number like 120 Hz for a refresh rate?
 

HunkyBill

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I got LCD, had to get a tv because the old tube tv died. Would've gone for Plasma. Burn-in issues not that common any more. LCD has a lot of greyness, you likely won't like it but you have to let your eyes be the judge.

If you can afford it and have the room, go with Plasma. 6ms response time is ok but not as fast as LCD. 120 mhz is better than 60. Also, different manufacturers use different rating schemes to measure ms. If you watch a lot of sports, it's really a no brainer, plasma is a must unless you can find an old 42 inch HDTV tube on CL or Buy and Sell.
 

HunkyBill

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I totally disagree on that.
When I was shopping around for mine, I couldn't really tell the difference between LG and Samsung but I could tell they had better pictures than Sony and Sharp.
When it comes to LCD tech these Korean brands are just exceptional, and the demands in market and reviews clearly shows that.

But then we all have different eyes...
My eyes are fantastic and I notice any little thing. I cant remember which one, but either Samsung or LG, one of them had washed out whites. The colors weren't as good or realistic compared to the Sharp or Sony. In the end, I went with a Sony on a Boxing Day door crasher.
 
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