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United States withdraws from Iran Nuclear Deal

Mrmotorscooter

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Did you check the source of the 'report'?

They are a frequent source for Hannity on Fox etc.

Even still, if there is any truth to the story it will be interesting.
It will be interesting Jewsnews has it as well http://thejewishvoice.com/2018/05/14/iran-deal/ it’s hard to tell what is fake news these days. I wouldn’t be surprised plenty of companies got in trouble way back for supplying Iran with the equipment to process the nuke fuel. Money Uber alles is the main driver for some people and corporations.
 

uncleg

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Lets look at this problem from 2 different views.

World view: We all live on this planet and with 7 billion people. We must all learn to share and get along.

American view: Keep the status quo, (rich getting richer and the poor Poorer). Hand out tidbits here and there.


The only way to make middle class Americans make "America Great again" is to rid the world of the global economy where for the past 40 years American companies have been going overseas to get the cheap labour. Isolationist view from the religious right. We don't want anything to do with those people over there.

In the American fight to rid the world of communism (who they label as corrupt) they have been supporting dictators throughout the world, who all have ultimately turned on them. So the Americans for the past 30 or so years have been doing raids, bombings etc. No wonder most of the 3 rd world hates them.

Iran was a democratic and open society before the US put the Shaw of Iran on the throne in the 40/50s. The Iranian revolution in 1979 was due to the Shaw of Iran purges on his own people, it was a religious revolution due to the fact that all political moderates had been silenced by the Shaw's secret police. After the revolution, women had to wear headdress to cover their faces, when in fact they were allowed to show their faces freely before. People don't start revolutions because they are happy...

The Americans are scared of Muslims. Take history as an example.. The Crusades from Europe went to the Holy Land, for 300 years they basically had their way. Then the Muslims started to fight back. They took all of Northern Africa and Spain in the West, Middle East, Turkey and crossed over into SE Europe. Only the plague and lucky battle in Spain, and the appearance of the Golden Horde stopped them. They converted every one by the sword. Convert or die. Now give them nuclear weapons and the hatred that they feel towards the states.
Wonder if the Shaw of Iran is any relation to the Shaw of BC....have to get a new internet provider if he is.....
 

Ray

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Take history as an example.. The Crusades from Europe went to the Holy Land, for 300 years they basically had their way. Then the Muslims started to fight back. They took all of Northern Africa and Spain in the West, Middle East, Turkey and crossed over into SE Europe. Only the plague and lucky battle in Spain, and the appearance of the Golden Horde stopped them. They converted every one by the sword. Convert or die.
I would urge you to read a history book prior to making comments like this.

The Muslim world expanded to North Africa, then into Spain in the 7th and 8th centuries.
The crusades didn't take place until the 11th century, triggered by a band of marauding Turks wiping out the armies of the Byzantyne Empire at Manzikurt in 1076.
The Muslim empires of Spain and North Africa were different empires from the ones that ruled the Middle East and Persia/India. And different from the Turks that replaced them.

The reconquest of Spain wasn't the result of a lucky battle. It took 300 years.
The Golden Horde ended the Abbasid and the Persian Khawarizmi empires, did nothing for the Ummayids in Spain, nor the empires in India. It led to the rise of the Ottoman and Mughal empires.
As far as converting everyone by the sword, the oldest churches and synogogues are in Muslim lands, not Europe.
 
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