Ufc 98 - Main Event Announced

[aznmaverick]

http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=news.detail&gid=18601

Quinton " Rampage " Jackson has officially pulled out of UFC 98 due to a broken jaw. So now Lyoto " The Dragon " Machida steps in to face "Sugar" Rashad Evans on May 23 at MGM.

Man this will be a great fight. I met Lyoto Machida back in Vegas at UFC 84 when he defeated Tito Ortiz. I even took pics with him. Nice guy .. he spoke broken english and was a beast. It was kinda funny I saw him at the buffet at MGM with his team.

 

[k_soze11]

Should be a great fight. I give the edge to Lyoto but I want rashad to win this because he and rampage have some unfinished business.

 

[trackstar]

Lyota will be the champ.....take it to the bank!

I'm with you on that one. I think it will be a good fight though!

 

[trackstar]

I hope not....I want Evans to get KO'd quick!

I'd rather see him get schooled over a couple of rounds. Really mess the boy up

 

[trackstar]

How dissapointing! I hate Machida his style sucks. Someone should stand in the middle of the ring and make him come to them for once so we can see if he can really fight and not just run away.

mind you I hate Rashad too

 

[aznmaverick]

How dissapointing! I hate Machida his style sucks. Someone should stand in the middle of the ring and make him come to them for once so we can see if he can really fight and not just run away.

mind you I hate Rashad too

I think you dislike Machida cause he doesn't provide that exciting bull rush style that many individuals in MMA enjoy. However, MMA has evolved greatly over the years since the days of Tank Abbott or Ken Shamrock etc. Heck, even the Ground and Pound of Tito Ortiz. MMA fighters have now become more like athletes and more well rounded at that. A guy like GSP is not superior in one discipline. However, he is great at many different techniques.

Machida, though as Joe Rogan put it best " evasive " style or a style where he doesn't get hit and I believe Mike Goldberg said something to the extent well who does.

Machida I think should defeat Rashad Evans. My main concern is whether he can handle the punching power of Rashad and his quickness. The guy has a mean over hand right. Just ask Chuck Liddel about it. Guy is quick much like a lightweight boxer. He has that boxing style similar to Roy Jones Jr in his prime.

On a sidenote will be interesting to see on the card Yushin Okami he was the last fighter to defeat Anderson Silva. Silva lost his fight when he kicked Okami in the face from the guard position. Okami's knees were on the ground at the time, making the attack an illegal strike to the head of a downed opponent.

Anyhow, regardless looks to be like a decent card for UFC 98. However, I am looking towards UFC 100. The card is shaping up nicely. GSP vs Alves, Mir vs Lesnar, and Henderson vs Bisping look like the fights so far. Dana White wants UFC 100 to be a spectacle.

 

[aznmaverick]

You don't like me, so anything I say will be considered jackass to you, and vise versa, make no mistake.

14-0 for what running away for 5 mins at a time, thats not fighting, i m sure he has a talent in some sort of sport but this isnt it. and since UFC is for talented fighter, who are also entertaining, hes is in the wrong sport.
So unless he, ( and you for that matter )can breath through his ears, he had better man up, or move on.

I obviously didn't say I have insight to the inner working or world class gyms so you win the jackass award this time...you can hold on to the trophy, k.

Sorry, didn't mean to interupt or be rude. You are in fact entitled to your opinion. Machida's style is not everyone's cup of tea. Heck, he's had a lot of matches go to a decision, 1 KO and 1 submission and 4 decisions since being in the UFC. Numbers are higher if you include those outside of it. Machida specializes in Shotokan karate. Lots of evading and little hand fakes.

At times he does look like he's more evasive or running away perhaps. But he is kind of like Floyd Mayweather. In the sense, he pot shots. He counters and is not known to be the over agressor unless he sees a high percentage opening such as his last fight versus Thiago Silva. Even Machida has said that he will try to be more entertaining to the people. He knows in order to get title shots you have to entertain. It's apart of the business guys who entertain get Main Event / Co-Main Event status on PPV. Look at Chuck Liddel, Randy Couture etc.

If he doesn't entertain you or you dislike him tis ok. Heck, for me I really liked Tito Ortiz. He was one of the main reasons I went to see UFC 84 live to see him and Lyoto fight heads up.

 

[aznmaverick]

1) First off, you obviously have a complex. I responded to your post, not because it was you. I also took some time and effort with my response in an attempt to come up with at least a half-assed intelligent response unlike the weak effort you did.

Its clear that you have the problem "dumpling", not me.

2) Machida has finished 6 out of 14 total fights which is also 6 of 14 of his wins, which isn't exactly high on the finishing scale of things, but at 43% isn't terrible either.

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Lyoto-Machida-7513

Compare this too Randy Courture who has finished 9 out of 25 fights for a 36% ratio...but you don't see anyone critisizing him for not finishing fights? That's because he's also finished 9 out of 16 WINS.

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Randy-Couture-166

The thing is, if Machida lost 20 - 25% of his fights and instead of being 14-0, instead, he lost 3 of those decision fights and was 11 - 3, he would have finished 6 of 11 OF HIS WINS for a finish rate of 55% OF HIS WINS which is pretty good. People forget...he's winning fights in decisions that other guys lose.

3) Machida has not only never lost in the UFC, HE HAS NEVER LOST EVEN ONE ROUND ON THE JUDGES SCORECARDS. Methinks he is in exactly the right sport.

4) There are many, many Machida fans who are very happy to see him getting a shot, think he is very entertaining, and again...wethinks he is in the right sport.

5) When you attempt to legitimize your post by making a "I've spent my whole life in a gym" comment, expect to get called out on it.

Ok, not to stir things up. Just wanted to add to the discussion. He also was the first man to defeat Rich Franklin, and before the UFC he defeated Franklin, BJ Penn, Stephan Bonner, and Vernon White. Not slouches either.

I think JamieLane looks at it more on the entertainment aspect while individuals like yourself are more at the technical aspect. I mean, I am sure when you saw Griffin vs Bonnar at the TUF you thought wow entertaining fight. Maybe, not the most technically sound but entertaining. Best example in boxing for me was Arturro Gatti vs Mickey Ward.

I don't consider myself to understand the technicals all too much. I know the stats and who've they defeated etc.. but trying to learn more. Like I said.. aiming to go to UFC 100. lol. That or a boxing main event that consists of Manny Pacquaio vs Floyd Mayweather lol.

 

[trackstar]

You don't like me, so anything I say will be considered jackass to you, and vise versa, make no mistake.

14-0 for what running away for 5 mins at a time, thats not fighting, i m sure he has a talent in some sort of sport but this isnt it. and since UFC is for talented fighter, who are also entertaining, hes is in the wrong sport.
So unless he, ( and you for that matter )can breath through his ears, he had better man up, or move on.

I obviously didn't say I have insight to the inner working or world class gyms so you win the jackass award this time...you can hold on to the trophy, k.

When you make stupid comments, expect to be called on them. He rebutted your ignorant statements with factual information. Having a hissy fit makes you look ignorant AND like a whiny ass. The trophy is now yours

 

[trackstar]

1) First off, you obviously have a complex. I responded to your post, not because it was you. I also took some time and effort with my response in an attempt to come up with at least a half-assed intelligent response unlike the weak effort you did.

Its clear that you have the problem "dumpling", not me.

2) Machida has finished 6 out of 14 total fights which is also 6 of 14 of his wins, which isn't exactly high on the finishing scale of things, but at 43% isn't terrible either.

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Lyoto-Machida-7513

Compare this too Randy Courture who has finished 9 out of 25 fights for a 36% ratio...but you don't see anyone critisizing him for not finishing fights? That's because he's also finished 9 out of 16 WINS...COUPLED WITH 9 LOSSES.

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Randy-Couture-166

The thing is, if Machida lost 20 - 25% of his fights and instead of being 14-0, instead, he lost 3 of those decision fights and was 11 - 3, he would have finished 6 of 11 OF HIS WINS for a finish rate of 55% OF HIS WINS which is pretty good. People forget...he's winning fights in decisions that other guys lose.

3) Machida has not only never lost in the UFC, HE HAS NEVER LOST EVEN ONE ROUND ON THE JUDGES SCORECARDS. Methinks he is in exactly the right sport.

4) There are many, many Machida fans who are very happy to see him getting a shot, think he is very entertaining, and again...wethinks he is in the right sport.

5) When you attempt to legitimize your post by making a "I've spent my whole life in a gym" comment, expect to get called out on it.

Amen MMA fan

 

[kalel]

go evans!!

 

[bcneil]

Hubba...the best part about this fight is that the betting public will bet heavily with Rashad because they are ignorant about Machida and don't understand his game.

Do not be at all surprised if the line for this fight shows Machida as the underdog when he really should be a heavy favorite. Bet the house on him if that's the case!

I haven't seen any odds out for this fight yet? Has anyone?
Stupid fans do control the odds.....I am still mad about that damn
Slice/Shamrock fight. Slice was so loved and so favored, I had a large bet on Shamrock at +325. When I found out the fight was off, I had that same feeling you get, when you hear some you know died. Then to rub it in, Seth whatshisface KO's him in like 10 seconds.

But Machida is the fan favorite against Evans. The fans don't seem to like Evans. And as Kalel put it, the Machida bang wagon is growing. I am thinking the line will probably start out around even, with Machida ending up around -140. If Machida is an underdog, I will be betting heavy for him.

 

[trackstar]

I am in allowed to post my opinions in the lounge like everyone else and I am sick of you complaining about it.

I see, you can give your opinion, but I can't give mine What I find hilarious is that one of the best fight promoters in the world makes this fight, everyone is excited about it, but you are the one that knows better Tell you what, you sit there and sulk while the rest of us enjoy this most excellent match-up

 

[Krustee]

So far it looks like people know who Machida is....


May 23rd, 2009 - UFC Light Heavyweight Championship - Ultimate Fighting Championships 98 - Las Vegas, Nevada, USA Both must fight for action.

Lyoto "The Dragon" Machida
-200

Rashad "Sugar" Evans
+160

Yup - Evans will win.

That is all.

 

[bigstick]

I'm not surprised there has been real good buzz with machida for awhile and he's been around awhile also, after he disected Thiago Silva on the last paper view. Though, it wouldn't hurt to throw a little something on Evans, very good knock out power; with both hands and feet.

 

[deslicher]

I'm convinced!, I will want to see Machida vs Evans. I have seen some ufc/mma fights and some of them are pretty good. This Machida guy is right up my alley.

A guy who utilizes his intelligence, patience and ring skill to beat an opponent. In a 5 rd fight this is impressive, does he have a chin???

I've been a boxing fan for 30 yrs so I hope this is considered a complement.

Peace.

 

[trackstar]

14-0 for what running away for 5 mins at a time, thats not fighting, i m sure he has a talent in some sort of sport but this isnt it.

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[trackstar]

Then again...some "fans" were excited to see Shamrock vs Kimbo.

Welcome back to UFC 1,2 and 3 These are the same people that go to the shitty Surrey bars at closing just to see the power drinkers go at it

 

[trackstar]

Machida v. Franklin

Machida sits and waits on Franklin for a few moments to play the counter attack game. When Franklin chooses not to engage in Machida's counter game then its Machida who turns to aggressor and catches a typically very nimble and aggressive Franklin flat on his feet.

It is Machida who "engages", "fights", "boxes", even threw a spinning back "kick" in there along with the "scoring jabs" (which weren't necessarily weak").

Machida controls the tempo and dictates.

Franklin was undefeated going into this fight. Since then Rich has only lost to Anderson Silva (current middleweight champion) and Dan Henderson (former Pride champion in middleweight and lightheavyweight concurrently) while becoming a middleweight champion himself.

Sometimes you have to educate the ones that figure they don't need an education. Let's see if pride stands in the way of that after previous comments and a video showing what Machida is really about

 

[Harmony-bc]

I just like watching half naked men with nice bodies beating each other up and rolling around the ground. Its incredibly sexy, a turn on really. Who cares who beats who, lol