TVs are getting too complicated for me

wolverine

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I was in Future Shop looking over some new TV sets.
I'd definitely like a flat-screen so that I'd have more room in my apartment. But I don't watch enough TV to warrant the $1000+ price tag.
But what was getting me cross-eyed were the choices: HDTV, LCD, plasma. If one was in the market for a new flat-screen, what should one get?
 

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wolverine said:
I was in Future Shop looking over some new TV sets.
I'd definitely like a flat-screen so that I'd have more room in my apartment. But I don't watch enough TV to warrant the $1000+ price tag.
But what was getting me cross-eyed were the choices: HDTV, LCD, plasma. If one was in the market for a new flat-screen, what should one get?

ask 100 people, and you'll get 100 different opinions. Just buy the one that you feel represents the best value.
 

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mustangjoe said:
ask 100 people, and you'll get 100 different opinions. Just buy the one that you feel represents the best value.
that would be the LCD projection T.V. ;)
rule out a plasma, just because the fuckers use as much power as your fridge, without anything better to offer in pic quality.
 

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wolverine said:
I was in Future Shop looking over some new TV sets.
I'd definitely like a flat-screen so that I'd have more room in my apartment. But I don't watch enough TV to warrant the $1000+ price tag.
But what was getting me cross-eyed were the choices: HDTV, LCD, plasma. If one was in the market for a new flat-screen, what should one get?
Hey Wolvie, lots of things to consider. Plasma TVs still have the wow factor because they are so flat, so bright, and have a large viewing angle, but they do consume a lot of power and have screen burn in, so they will not work well as gaming consoles or computer monitors. Moreover, I don't think plasmas are available in the sub-$1000 price point.

Pretty much every modern TV now can be called an HDTV, as they can be hooked up to an outboard HDTV converter. If you are a HDTV hardcore (but it doesn't sound like you are), you should get one that displays pictures in 1080p resolution, as that represents the new high end standard.

DLP and LCD are both pretty much the same. They are great for versatility (ie., can be used as computer monitors in a home theatre computer setup) and relatively inexpensive, but DLPs use a moving wheel to display pictures, so you have a moving part in your TV that other formats don't use. If you go DLP, check out how well it displays fast-moving sequences, as I've seen some early DLP TVs that would get all pixelated during those times. LCD is probably the best overall choice, but some people don't like seeing the little pixel lines on the screen.

At the end of the day, I would say if you are a pure TV watcher and afford it, go plasma. The large viewing angle also makes it the best choice if you frequently have company over to watch TV. If you have any plans to make an big-screen TV the centre of the home-theatre computer system, go with LCD.

Hope that helps
 

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Here's a handy guide to help you make an educated purchasing decision

(Reprinted from Etronics)

SHOPPER'S GUIDE TO VIDEO DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY

What is Plasma?

Plasma Televisions/monitors apply voltage to any of more than a million tiny chambers filled with neon, xenon, krypton, or argon, or a combination of these gasses. Using a matrix of wires to "address" specific chambers, the gasses ionize into plasma that emits ultraviolet light. Light strikes red, green, or blue phosphors coated on the inside of the chambers, and a pixel emits that respective colored light.
-Max. Resolution: 1366 x 768
-Burn-in Can Occur
-Side-view Image remains the Same
-Lifespan: 50,000 Hours

What is LCD?

LCD (Liquid-crystal display) televisions work passively, shining a light behind the LCD panel. They include the same number of pixels as a plasma display, but the pixels are colored red, green, and blue. When voltage is applied to a pixel, using a matrix of wires, the pixel becomes dark and light can not show through it.
-Max. Resolution: 1600 x 1200
-Burn-in Can Not Occur
-Side-view loses Contrast & Brightness
-Lifespan: 60,000 Hours

What is DLP?

The technology inside DLP is often referred to as either "micro-mirrors", or DMD. It works this way: build a few hundred thousand tiny mirrors, and line them up in 800 rows of 600 mirrors each. Now attach a hinge to each of those 480,000 mirrors. Attach each of those 480,000 hinges to it's own very tiny motor! Power each motor with electrostatic energy! The motors tilt their mirrors up to 20 degrees at incredible speeds. This allows the mirrors to modulate light from a lamp, and send the "modulated signal" out through a lens, on to a screen. The most amazing part of DLP micro mirrors, is the scale of size. The 480,000 mirrors (actually 580,000 are used), hinges and motors are packed onto a "wafer" a bit larger than your thumbnail.
- Max. Resolution: 1280 x 720
- 5ms Refresh Rate
- Sharper Image

What is HDTV?

HDTV provides pictures with several times the clarity of DVDs and over 5 times the resolution of a regular television picture.

HDTV provides vivid color, including a wide range of hues (such as subtle purples and reds) without any bleeding at the edges of the image.

HDTV images are as detailed as a high-resolution photograph. It is like looking through a window. When watching a TV program in HD, you will be amazed at the sharpness of the picture. You can even pick up the specks of different colors in an actor’s eyes, or see individual sweat drops on a football player--details you could never see through regular television.

All HDTV programming can provide 5.1 channel Dolby Digital Surround Sound--just like true theatre sound.

HDTV refers to a complete product/system with the following minimum performance attributes:

* Display Scanning Format: Has active vertical scanning lines of 720 progressive (720p), 1080 interlaced (1080i),or higher
* Receiver: Receives ATSC terrestrial digital transmissions and decodes all ATSC Table 3 video formats
* Audio: Receives and reproduces, and/or outputs Dolby Digital audio

What is EDTV?

EDTV refers to a complete product/system with the following minimum performance attributes:

* Display Scanning Format: Has active vertical scanning lines of 480 progressive (480p) or higher
* Receiver: Receives ATSC terrestrial digital transmissions and decodes all ATSC Table 3 video formats
* Audio: Receives and reproduces, and/or outputs Dolby Digital audio

What is Burn-in?

Burn-in occurs when an image is left on the screen too long, like if you pause a DVD for a long time. Once burn in happens, you will always see a ghostly outline of the Burnt-in image no matter what you are watching. This is because some pixels on the TV can no longer create as much light as others, so they will always appear darker. Most commonly this occurs from playing video games for too long or from watching letterboxed material too often. The easiest way to avoid this problem is to limit videogame time and to watch material in a full screen format as much as possible.

Burn-in is a consideration with Plasma TVs, but not LCDs. Plasma TVs, like traditional CRT TVs create their own light. They make light by exciting a chemical coating inside the screen called "phosphors". The burn-in issue happens when you continually ask some of these phosphors to make light while others nearby are basically sleeping. LCDs on the other hand create a picture by blocking light from an outside source (basically a powerful light bulb). This makes it impossible for burn-in to happen on a LCD screen

What is Response time?

Response time is the amount of time it takes for a liquid crystal cell to go from active (black) to inactive (white) and back to active (black) again. It is measured in milliseconds or (ms). Lower numbers mean faster transitions (ie. 16 ms is faster than 25 ms.) and therefore less visible image artifacts.
 

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A few comments .. dcup. THe pictures in the new tv don't look as good . because let face you were looking at a 32" or 36" now you got a 42" and up .. wuth the same signal ... thats why the HD.. But they are not all broad casting in that , so crapy pics.
As for what to get .. plasma is the cheepest...you can get it at sears for $999.99... for a 42".... or futur shop ..about $1200.. I think that is HD capable .. then just get a DVD that plays pback in Hd or close to it ..
Those porn DVD's look great.:rolleyes:
 

wolverine

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dcuplover said:
the problem I see with all the new sets is that the detail in the new TV's desn't seem as good as a regular tv screen. Why pay all that extra for a fuzzy picture or ghosting etc...?
The main reason I'm looking at flat screens is real estate. My apartment has a small-ass living room so it'd be nice to just hang the damn thing on the wall instead of having this large, heavy, old-school CRT TV hogging up all the space.
 

georgebushmoron

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I got this recently:
http://www.sonystyle.ca/commerce/servlet/ProductDetailDisplay?storeId=10001&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&RequestPartner=cj&productId=1003131

and it kicks ass. A&B Sound has them on sale for $1599 which includes the Sony TV stand as well. Picture quality is exactly the same as flat panel LCD except it is 6" thicker and is best viewed within a 45 degree arc, which suits me just fine (I don't watch TV outside a 45 degree angle anyway). It is very bright and even though it sits right beside a large bay window, the image is very clear. It also has some kind of surround sound thing which sounds very good (and clear). I haven't had time yet, but I'm gonna rent a porno and can't wait to see a huge pair of tits swinging in front of me.

By the way, plasma has tons of reflection. When I went to the store, I took a flashlight and shone it right at the screen, and the reflection drowned out a good portion of the image. So because my living room is bright and has lots of window, and in the evening I have track lighting, plasma is no good day or night.
 
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