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I have a hard time understanding how a billionaire can be classified as a dipshit. The evidence points to the contrary, at least in the business world. I don't recall any tweet subverting congressional powers. Like seriously, what could any President possibly due to postpone the most important election on the planet? Start a war? Two problems with that. He's the most anti-war President of the 21st century and wars haven't stopped Presidential elections in the past, including "the big one". Maybe shutting down polling stations due to Covid? Can't do that either as they are controlled at the state level.

Trump being a billionaire is assuming a lot to start with.
And even if he would be ....it doesn't negate his personality flaws that people can qualify in their own terms, as Trump does constantly with his bullying technique.
 

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"If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it." ― Mark Twain

That says it all.

2 elections in a row rigged against Sanders. Why bother
 
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Trump stealing his 2nd term is actually not so far fetched. Newsweek outlined exactly how it could be done:
  1. Biden wins the popular vote, and carries the key swing states of Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania by decent but not overwhelming margins.
  2. Trump immediately declares that the voting was rigged, that there was mail-in ballot fraud and that the Chinese were behind a plan to provide fraudulent mail-in ballots and other "election hacking" throughout the four key swing states that gave Biden his victory.
  3. Having railed against the Chinese throughout the campaign, calling Biden "soft on China," Trump delivers his narrative claiming the Chinese have interfered in the U.S. election.
  4. Trump indicates this is a major national security issue, and he invokes emergency powers, directing the Justice Department to investigate the alleged activity in the swing states. The legal justification for the presidential powers he invokes has already been developed and issued by Barr.
  5. The investigation is intended to tick down the clock toward December 14, the deadline when each state's Electoral College electors must be appointed. This is the very issue that the Supreme Court harped on in Bush v. Gore in ruling that the election process had to be brought to a close, thus forbidding the further counting of Florida ballots.
  6. All four swing states have Republican control of both their upper and lower houses of their state legislatures. Those state legislatures refuse to allow any Electoral College slate to be certified until the "national security" investigation is complete.
  7. The Democrats will have begun a legal action to certify the results in those four states, and the appointment of the Biden slate of electors, arguing that Trump has manufactured a national security emergency in order to create the ensuing chaos.
  8. The issue goes up to the Supreme Court, which unlike the 2000 election does not decide the election in favor of the Republicans. However, it indicates again that the December 14 Electoral College deadline must be met; that the president's national security powers legally authorize him to investigate potential foreign country intrusion into the national election; and if no Electoral College slate can be certified by any state by December 14, the Electoral College must meet anyway and cast its votes.
  9. The Electoral College meets, and without the electors from those four states being represented, neither Biden nor Trump has sufficient votes to get an Electoral College majority.
  10. The election is thrown into the House of Representatives, pursuant to the Constitution. Under the relevant constitutional process, the vote in the House is by state delegation, where each delegation casts one vote, which is determined by the majority of the representatives in that state.
  11. Currently, there are 26 states that have a majority Republican House delegation. 23 states have a majority Democratic delegation. There is one state, Pennsylvania, that has an evenly split delegation. Even if the Democrats were to pick up seats in Pennsylvania and hold all their 2018 House gains, the Republicans would have a 26 to 24 delegation majority.
  12. This vote would enable Trump to retain the presidency.
 
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I have a hard time understanding how a billionaire can be classified as a dipshit. The evidence points to the contrary, at least in the business world. I don't recall any tweet subverting congressional powers. Like seriously, what could any President possibly due to postpone the most important election on the planet? Start a war? Two problems with that. He's the most anti-war President of the 21st century and wars haven't stopped Presidential elections in the past, including "the big one". Maybe shutting down polling stations due to Covid? Can't do that either as they are controlled at the state level.
Certainly not a dipshit, but a well known conman and thief. He only knows how to win through lies and deception.
Interesting article but nothing not well documented in the past.
Bob
 

Bobert1969

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There seems to be a debate as to what "dipshit" means. I took it as being stupid. I've got two dictionary references to support my interpretation.

Dictionary.com defines "dipshit" as:
"a stupid or despicable person."

Yourdictionary.com defines it as"
"Dipshit is defined as a slang term for a stupid or despised person."

And most every other dictionary reference includes the word stupid or foolish.

Regardless, my point stands in that the charge that Trump will somehow cancel or postpone the election is fantasy.
 

Bobert1969

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Trump being a billionaire is assuming a lot to start with.
And even if he would be ....it doesn't negate his personality flaws that people can qualify in their own terms, as Trump does constantly with his bullying technique.


Why is it a lot to assume? He's been referred to as a billionaire for years, long before he became President. But why would anyone think being a billionaire negates personality flaws or bullying? I'm asking because I don't see any correlation on top of the fact that this wasn't a point of debate.

What I find fascinating however is that people are very quick to point out the flaws in a person that has never claimed to have no flaws. He has never served in a single elected position. He has always been a private citizen, albeit one in the public eye, and he makes no apologies about being a business man and that is where many people make the mistake when criticizing him. Life long politicians are supposed to be above reproach, but this is just another guy, but one that decided to run for office, and won on his first try, and it happened to be the Presidency. I still find the entire ordeal to be incredible and I never lose sight of this fact when people talk about all of the negatives, true or not. It is also amazing to me how emotional people get about a guy that has only been in office for 3.5 years when his political adversaries, who have been in office for 20, 30 and even 40 years, are the ones responsible for the majority of the problems they all face.
 

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Trump will not win. And it will not be close.

JD
What makes you say so? And don't start a list of things you think make Trump a bad candidate. In order to state that he will lose badly, you should list the reasons why Biden will win based on his outstanding qualities.
 

Bobert1969

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More stupid than unpredictable. But I get what you mean.

JD
That's quite the statement. Americans are stupid and unpredictable. Compared to what other country and how so?
 

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That's quite the statement. Americans are stupid and unpredictable. Compared to what other country and how so?
I was replying to someone who said they are unpredictable. I said they were stupid, but what I really meant is ignorant. Want proof? The voted in Trump. Now if they vote Trump in again in November, then "stupid" really will apply.

And do you really need me to list off the 101 reasons why Trump should not be re-elected? Look at how he has handled the Covid 19 crisis. That alone is enough. No national policy. Trying to undermine Fauci who is the only one there who seems to know what should be done to fight Covid 19 even though no one in Trump's administration appears to be listening to him.

JD
 
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I repying to someone who said they are unpredictable. I said they were stupid, but what I really meant is ignorant. Want proof? The voted in Trump. Now if they vote Trump in again in November, then "stupid" will really apply.

And do you really need me to list off the 101 reasons why Trump should not be re-elected? Look at how he has handled the Covid 19 crisis. That alone is enough. No national policy. Trying to undermine Fauci who is the only one there who seems to know what shoudld be done to fight Covid 19 even though no one in Trump's administration appears to be listening to him.

JD
I think Trump' concern is the dishwasher reform instead of colvid. The Governor's from most of the states are calling the shots to prevent it from getting worse. It is sad to see how such a " great " country is the laughing stock now....
 
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It is also amazing to me how emotional people get about a guy that has only been in office for 3.5 years when his political adversaries, who have been in office for 20, 30 and even 40 years, are the ones responsible for the majority of the problems they all face.
That"s simply because no one man has been the cause of so much termoil in such a short term. (3.5yrs)
It took all those others a span of 20,30 and even 40 years or more to cause all those problems
as you so put it. 'Extremely stable genious, my ass!!

Big difference eh?




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Bobert1969

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I was replying to someone who said they are unpredictable. I said they were stupid, but what I really meant is ignorant. Want proof? The voted in Trump. Now if they vote Trump in again in November, then "stupid" really will apply.

And do you really need me to list off the 101 reasons why Trump should not be re-elected? Look at how he has handled the Covid 19 crisis. That alone is enough. No national policy. Trying to undermine Fauci who is the only one there who seems to know what should be done to fight Covid 19 even though no one in Trump's administration appears to be listening to him.

JD
I'm going to reply carefully so this doesn't get off point, as such discussions are want to do.

1.Again, I'm not asking for a list of reasons why Trump should not be re-elected. I asked for a list of reasons why Biden should take his place.

2. Regarding Fauci, when should they have listened to him? When he said masks are not necessary or when he said they are? Legit question.

3. Regarding the "ignorant" pivot; do you remember the 2016 election? Trump was touting jobs and paying attention to the working class and those in rural areas that were sick of having their elections dictated by the liberals in big cities and by promising to bring manufacturing back to the US. His opponent was insulting these people by calling them deplorables and his predecessor was asking what magic wand was he going to use to bring jobs back. So how was it "ignorant" to vote for someone that not only based his campaign on the working class and jobs, but actually delivered once he got in office?
 

Bobert1969

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I think Trump' concern is the dishwasher reform instead of colvid. The Governor's from most of the states are calling the shots to prevent it from getting worse. It is sad to see how such a " great " country is the laughing stock now....
It is the job of the governors to deal with most of this and to only ask for Federal assistance where needed. The problem is that the individual governors, or some (many?) of them are inept. Case in point, how many ventilators did Cuomo need to blame the Federal government for not providing before he realized he had thousands in a warehouse that the Federal government had already provided? Another case in point, how many Covid cases were spread because governors allowed unlimited and unregulated BLM protests where the number of participants were in the tens or even hundreds of thousands, all crammed within inches of each other vs. cases spread from people going to church and sitting six feet apart in their pews? You can't ban one form of assembly and allow another and blame the federal government for an increase of cases in your own state. It simply doesn't compute.
 
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