Traveling to USA with an SP who is face out on Social Media

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I got sent to inspection in yvr cause i was a bit pissed and on a look they found some pills that they said was ok but they were looking for child porn or something. Searched i phone ipad, kept asking for passwords etc. 3 hours later i was out and not had an issue since. Said my wife looked pretty good, it was the only fuck video on my phone.Bastards
 

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Working and taxation don’t seem to be the issue for the US customs people. It’s sex work that’s the problem, pure and simple. The last girl I had the conversation with showed me a pic of the official notice banning a friend of hers from the US for 5 years. The reason was “engaging in moral turpitude” If that doesn’t sound puritanical I’m not sure what does.

The US and Canada are very different places in our attitudes toward legitimate sex work.
If that were the case, we would see onlyfans girls and girls doing other forms of sex work having the same problem.

The thing about escorting is, if the border security and customs notice an escort entering the country, it's likely that if that provider were to work illegally in their country without proper authorization, they could potentially earn thousands or tens of thousands of dollars tax-free and smuggle the money out of the country without declaration.

And lets be real, it's no secret that many of these providers are dodging taxes on their escort earnings in Canada. And of one decided to, it's likely you can uncover that info pretty easily. So in those scenarios, why would the customs or border security agent think that all of the sudden the provider is going to start paying taxes on earnings they get in the US.

And of course there are individual border security and customs officials who are corrupt and abuse their power simply because they can, but this kind of behaviour is not unique to these professions or just because they are men or americans. We see examples of corruption and abuse of power in all aspects of society all over the world, including even online platforms like this one.

I'm not a fan of this whole situation, it's had a real negative impact on people close to me.
But lets not pretend this is an issue of discrimination due to them being escorts only.

And this happens to tons of other people as well. I know people who legally cultivate cannabis in Canada, they have issues going to the US AND a bunch of other countries. And thats just one example.

This also happens to groups of early 20s guys heading to the US to go to a music festival or nfl game by car. every time, the cars stripped apart and everyone gets interrogated and their phones searched. They usually let you in, but only after they make sure you aren't doing anything illegal.

When it comes down to it, this is about money.

The providers who have told you about this, are they ones you are paying? or ones you know on a personal level? Because every escort I have talked to about this has fully known that this could or would be an issue before they started going full escort, therefore they dont really play the victim. You gotta make sure they aren't just trying to guilt-trip you into coughing up more cash or coming back for more appointments.
 

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@PaulACER Whatever you're doing, I hope it's worth the trouble/headache/money/time.
I'd only put in this amount of stress for family or for love.
 
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If that were the case, we would see onlyfans girls and girls doing other forms of sex work having the same problem.

The thing about escorting is, if the border security and customs notice an escort entering the country, it's likely that if that provider were to work illegally in their country without proper authorization, they could potentially earn thousands or tens of thousands of dollars tax-free and smuggle the money out of the country without declaration.

And lets be real, it's no secret that many of these providers are dodging taxes on their escort earnings in Canada. And of one decided to, it's likely you can uncover that info pretty easily. So in those scenarios, why would the customs or border security agent think that all of the sudden the provider is going to start paying taxes on earnings they get in the US.

And of course there are individual border security and customs officials who are corrupt and abuse their power simply because they can, but this kind of behaviour is not unique to these professions or just because they are men or americans. We see examples of corruption and abuse of power in all aspects of society all over the world, including even online platforms like this one.

I'm not a fan of this whole situation, it's had a real negative impact on people close to me.
But lets not pretend this is an issue of discrimination due to them being escorts only.

And this happens to tons of other people as well. I know people who legally cultivate cannabis in Canada, they have issues going to the US AND a bunch of other countries. And thats just one example.

This also happens to groups of early 20s guys heading to the US to go to a music festival or nfl game by car. every time, the cars stripped apart and everyone gets interrogated and their phones searched. They usually let you in, but only after they make sure you aren't doing anything illegal.

When it comes down to it, this is about money.

The providers who have told you about this, are they ones you are paying? or ones you know on a personal level? Because every escort I have talked to about this has fully known that this could or would be an issue before they started going full escort, therefore they dont really play the victim. You gotta make sure they aren't just trying to guilt-trip you into coughing up more cash or coming back for more appointments.
You’ve hit the nail on the head here. The guys going to the NFL game get stopped but let go once they make sure the boys aren’t doing anything illegal.

However both cannabis and escorting are illegal in the US (at the Federal level), as opposed to Canada where they are not. And even being associated with either industry raises flags for the US feds and they are quick to deny entry and issue bans. That’s the issue. If the boys heading to the NFL game have any texts or emails on their phones that suggest they’re going to see American escorts while they're down there they are in for a nasty time at the border and won’t be making it to kickoff.

I agree that the amount of scrutiny people get at the border is ridiculous, and I too know people who are really negatively effected. The girls I talk to about this aren’t playing the victim, and know full well how risky it is. They are just talking about their industry and how careful they have to be. Most won’t go near the US. Don’t worry my friend, I’ve been doing this for a long time, and I know who’s angling for more business and who’s not.

As for the tax evasion issue you’re correct as well, but I’m just saying that the issues a lot of SP’s have going into the US are primarily morals based, and not financial.
 

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A quick search will bring up the case of Aussie OF girl Mikaela Testa.
Several dommes I have personally met have also been detained many hours and had their devices searched.
An AMP colleague I know has been banned 10yrs from the USA.
None of my male colleagues have said anything about being detained at the border while being face-out.

Further to that, even a virtual YouTuber (vtuber) by the stage name of Hex who uses Fansly (another adult platform) had been permanently denied entry to USA. They use a digital avatar rather than their own face/body, but USA will still deny people of entry regardless. There's really no point in applying for a tourist visa when the person is in any form of SW and Hex mistakenly thought being a vtuber content creator, they would be fine.

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Anything through the USA is playing with fire. Their puritanical drive is a waste of time and I'd even say it does not contribute to the quality of life of citizens.
No regular person is saying "keep them whores out" 😂 They don't care. That country doesn't want my taxes nor the taxes of swers who tour - they just wanna shit on hot people.
 
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If your that hell bent on bringing this lady friend then split up,. Travel separate and youll keep yourself safe. Make sure to wipe anything to do with her or any sps off your phone. I would travel alone. US is full of amazing women ready to play. Hawaii is a melting pot for the most beautiful exotic people in the US hands down. South beach #2
 
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Further to that, even a virtual YouTuber (vtuber) by the stage name of Hex who uses Fansly (another adult platform) had been permanently denied entry to USA. They use a digital avatar rather than their own face/body, but USA will still deny people of entry regardless. There's really no point in applying for a tourist visa when the person is in any form of SW and Hex mistakenly thought being a vtuber content creator, they would be fine.
Jesus Christ. Wtf. Seriously?
 
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USA is overrated. Outside of big cities and medium cities there is nothing do, eat or places to go for a nice walk. When I travel I go hunger and gain weight cause there is nothing but burger joints and pizza. It's what they call food deserts especially in the Midwest. I see strips malls everywhere and walking one block or two I get back in the rental car because it's depressing. The same franchise stores everywhere.
 

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A quick search will bring up the case of Aussie OF girl Mikaela Testa.
Several dommes I have personally met have also been detained many hours and had their devices searched.
An AMP colleague I know has been banned 10yrs from the USA.
None of my male colleagues have said anything about being detained at the border while being face-out.

Further to that, even a virtual YouTuber (vtuber) by the stage name of Hex who uses Fansly (another adult platform) had been permanently denied entry to USA. They use a digital avatar rather than their own face/body, but USA will still deny people of entry regardless. There's really no point in applying for a tourist visa when the person is in any form of SW and Hex mistakenly thought being a vtuber content creator, they would be fine.

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Anything through the USA is playing with fire. Their puritanical drive is a waste of time and I'd even say it does not contribute to the quality of life of citizens.
No regular person is saying "keep them whores out" 😂 They don't care. That country doesn't want my taxes nor the taxes of swers who tour - they just wanna shit on hot people.
Ok but those are exceptions, the vast majority dont have issues.
Not to mention, we are only getting their side of the story. (also vice news lol)
And being detained for questioning is different from being denied entry or banned from the country.

Saying a country doesnt want your taxes is ludicrous,
Also makes it seem like you dont pay taxes, which isnt smart to say online from a non-anonymous account.

"they just want to shit on hot people" 🙄

Edit: the Hex case you listed, they were denied entry because they have a criminal record, not because of fansly (look it up)
 
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Never had a problem.....if asked, they my niece, step-daughter....if feeling milfy..younger sister, sister-in-law......whatever seems reasonable for the age difference.
 
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Ok but those are exceptions, the vast majority dont have issues.
Not to mention, we are only getting their side of the story. (also vice news lol)
And being detained for questioning is different from being denied entry or banned from the country.

Saying a country doesnt want your taxes is ludicrous,
Also makes it seem like you dont pay taxes, which isnt smart to say online from a non-anonymous account.
Hey, it was the same story on every news link I could find after remembering it happened some years ago, so I figured it really didn't matter. Mikaela still had trouble. I knew you'd be a person who would nitpick about it though which makes me giggle a little bit. Still mentioned parties of which some were detained, and some were flat out banned.

I'm not afraid because I don't fuck around with taxes - you're trying to bark up the wrong lady. No need to add in your own little insult towards my intelligence and attack me as a person because you don't like anyone else talking about OF and adult platforms for some reason. Just adding my own angry passionate thoughts as a fellow industry worker ;) Cheers.
 

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Hey, it was the same story on every news link I could find after remembering it happened some years ago, so I figured it really didn't matter. Mikaela still had trouble. I knew you'd be a person who would nitpick about it though which makes me giggle a little bit. Still mentioned parties of which some were detained, and some were flat out banned.

I'm not afraid because I don't fuck around with taxes - you're trying to bark up the wrong lady. No need to add in your own little insult towards my intelligence and attack me as a person because you don't like anyone else talking about OF and adult platforms for some reason. Just adding my own angry passionate thoughts as a fellow industry worker ;) Cheers.
I like spunky Rina, lol.
 
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I like spunky Rina, lol.
I only responded at all because I can't stand adult content creators being seen as anything less than fellow swers. I find it really invalidating of the work they do only to be left out. I've been digital-only before. They are at risk of detainment and bans too, and being aware doesn't mean being happy with or okay with such treatment at borders.

OF manager and I align in that we both don't like how the borders treat industry workers. I probably won't learn my lesson and I won't stay out of it every time. I'm really passionate with certain topics, and adult content creators being part of this industry and being at risk of crappy treatment is one of those things. If giving enough of a fuck to pull up examples of how they, too, are affected by this bs is a bad take, I'll be the baddest and most audacious bitch 🤘 Good night!
 

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I only responded at all because I can't stand adult content creators being seen as anything less than fellow swers. I find it really invalidating of the work they do only to be left out. I've been digital-only before. They are at risk of detainment and bans too, and being aware doesn't mean being happy with or okay with such treatment at borders.

OF manager and I align in that we both don't like how the borders treat industry workers. I probably won't learn my lesson and I won't stay out of it every time. I'm really passionate with certain topics, and adult content creators being part of this industry and being at risk of crappy treatment is one of those things. If giving enough of a fuck to pull up examples of how they, too, are affected by this bs is a bad take, I'll be the baddest and most audacious bitch 🤘 Good night!
Never apologize for standing up for what is important to you. A lot of people seem to forget that there is more than one side to everything and other people are allowed to have a different point of view.
 
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Ok but those are exceptions, the vast majority dont have issues.
Not to mention, we are only getting their side of the story. (also vice news lol)
And being detained for questioning is different from being denied entry or banned from the country.

Saying a country doesnt want your taxes is ludicrous,
Also makes it seem like you dont pay taxes, which isnt smart to say online from a non-anonymous account.

"they just want to shit on hot people" 🙄

Edit: the Hex case you listed, they were denied entry because they have a criminal record, not because of fansly (look it up)
If you believe that the issue here is strictly financial, and the US wanting its fare share of revenue then I suggest an experiment.

Take a drive south and when US customs asks why you’re visiting say “pleasure, I’m going to meet a girl I found online”. (should be perfectly legal right?) Leave websites of Canadian escorts on your phone/email that you’ve seen here in Canada for them to see if they have a look at your phone (A legal activity for them to advertise in Canada) By your logic none of this should have any negative consequences for you, correct?

Have a good trip, I don’t think you’re going to get as far as you’ve hoped, and you’ll be getting a great insight into the reasons Rina and I have called the US puritanical.
 
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