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bagilson

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I was just wondering if anyone else was concerned that the Asian women we get in the 'Peg might be trafficked.
 

mustangguy

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VIPOTG/Kangnam Lady are not. I've got to know one lady who was with VIPOTG very well and can say this with confidence.
 

bubba101

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Good question.
I have been tempted many times to see these touring ladies but there is no way in hell I want anything to do with this trafficking stuff.
I wont do a return visit if I find out an sp has a pimp or a drug addiction issue either.
If she not doing this 100% "free will" then Im not interested !
 

tidbits

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Good question.
I have been tempted many times to see these touring ladies but there is no way in hell I want anything to do with this trafficking stuff.
I wont do a return visit if I find out an sp has a pimp or a drug addiction issue either.
If she not doing this 100% "free will" then Im not interested !
Agree 1000%! I may be a complete degenerate but I have morals.
 

rubintugger

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There is a difference between trafficked and pimped... I don't think any of the asian ladies that come through town on their 10 day stints are trafficked, but they sure aren't working a schedule of their own free will. These ladies seem to be on a 24/7 schedule while they are in town, and i don't think they are "given" any free time outside monthly visits from their "friend". They seem to pretty much sit in their sparsely furnished condo's waiting for the next call.

Sure, they have chosen to do this, and seem to be generally happy with that decision, and are probably treated better here than they would be in a similar situation in Korea. But it does not seem that they are in any way free agents able to make their own decisions.
 

spinnerman2

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So when u go to work do u do what u want or do u follow ur employers schedule, these girls come from a country where oppurtunity for females is limited it gives them a chance to make by there standards a lot of money in a short time to improve their lifestyle
 

spinnerman2

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Maybe you should compare it to theconditions in the sweat shops in Korea or being forced into a loveless marriage with an abusive husband with is probaly closer to their options at home. If you research you can find a number of articles by reporters going incognito to the brothels in europe looking for forced prostituion and they all come back with the same story.
To a tee the girls are there of there own free will while some of them dont neccasarily like what they are doing they are trying to make enough money to give them more choices and improve their lifestyle.
What I have a problem with is pimps who intentionally get young girls hooked on drugs and are forced to prostitute themselves to support their habit which is what u get when u force prostitution underground
 

spinnerman2

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Not an entirely fair comparison.

Provinces have employee standards acts which strictly dictate acceptable work conditions including schedules, breaks, maximum hours worked and workplace safety. Central to the laws is maintaining fair and respectful treatment of all employees.

I'm fairly certain the ladies in question are not receiving the benefits of said labour laws.
Are with talking canadian law or conditions in the sweat shops of Korea
 

PierreCoeur

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This is really an ethical debate that I don't think anyone has an answer to in regards to whether some of these girls are part of a human trafficking scenario. Truth be told these are very young Asian woman - most barely speak English, their Mamazan or Brozan controls their bookings so they are definitely being pimped. If some of you guys are trying to justify the fact that you take advantage of these services and the fact that you are arguing in the forum here - for or against you really are showing that you are a bit suspicious that these girls are not 100 percent here on their own accord or wishes. The fact is Human Trafficking is a reality and for anyone to deny that it is wrong or argue that they don't at least suspect something is wrong with the K-Girls or J-Girls being moved from City to City, you are either stupid or really just not aware. I would like to hear from the Korean men in this forum if they have ever asked a girl at one of these places, whether she was doing the service of her own free will?
 

hotwinnipeg

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Not entirely true - I have run into situations in the past where the agency had been told by the girl that she needed a day off and was unavailable despite being advertised. Happened with a couple of the local agencies.
 

Bobcat boy

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Are with talking canadian law or conditions in the sweat shops of Korea
I have used vipotg regularly over the last 2 years and can honestly say that these girls outside of work hours can do what they may choose to do. If they feel safe with a person some will come sightseeing, dinner, etc. the agencies main concern in these instances is the safety of the ladies. Also, some ladies just don't want to leave the confined spaces of the living quarters for whatever reason. The ultimate decision is up to the lady herself. Also, if these ladies aren't feeling well they have no problem booking off and feeling guilty about it. These girls come here to work and as mentioned above, have an opportunity to make good money.
 

spinnerman2

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Fact of the matter is these girls are here of their own free will and happy forb the oppurtunity from what I gather from them
 

Sixpak

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I have used vipotg regularly ................................................., if these ladies aren't feeling well they have no problem booking off and feeling guilty about it. These girls come here to work and as mentioned above, have an opportunity to make good money.
Before anyone criticizes, he means they have no problem about feeling guilty ..they do not feel guilty if they need to book off due to illness.... no different than the rest of us when we need to be off work due to illness
 

Bobcat boy

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Before anyone criticizes, he means they have no problem about feeling guilty ..they do not feel guilty if they need to book off due to illness.... no different than the rest of us when we need to be off work due to illness
That's exactly what I meant six pack. Thanks for the proof reading.
 

rubintugger

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Fact of the matter is these girls are here of their own free will and happy forb the oppurtunity from what I gather from them
And would you expect any of them to say different? The first one that does might end up missing soon after. Or sent home. Or even worse, sent to Regina.

I have no doubt that they are here to make money that they couldn't back home. Is it as much as promised? Is it as easy as promised? (Hours worked, cut of proceeds). Probably not.

None of these girls ever seem to have any time off (except for monthly visitors). They need to be available 24hrs a day for the 10 days they are here. There is no way they come close to being treated appropriately as a Canadian worker.

As long as you are good with that, have at it. They do seem to bring a lot more professional attitude to the job. They also tend to give good value withing the parameters they work within. But I can't see a union guy using his hard earned union wages to pay someone so flagrantly mistreated as a worker.
 

spinnerman2

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Had a session with Sue from knl last week,she sure was happy and bubbly for somebody as mistreated as u claim. I asked her a few questions she said she liked Canada but she going back to Korea where her family and freinds are.Her intentions when returning are to attend university wonder if she would have that oppurtunity otherwise.
 

ATM

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My brother told that he saw one of the Asian ladies and she had a number 27 on her left should. He said it looked like some sort of a tattoo or marking.

Also does anybody think that if these ladies are abused in anyway that they would be telling us? I hardly think so.
 
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PedroPistol

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Yes Tattoo's mean they are branded, The next girl will have 28, and the next will be 29, and the next30 , and so on and so on:rolleyes:

Sorry, but this thread has become so laughable, it's better than reading the Wpg Sun in the morning.
 
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