I'm generally a big tipper, but I am conflicted when I eat at a place where the server is the owner. If I leave a tip like I usually would it just goes into the owner's pocket who just made a profit on the meal and drinks. On the other hand - the server/owner is still performing a task, so is there any rule of thumb here? Is there a case to be made for no tip at all? How about if the server is not the owner, but a family member of the owner?
Tipping in Restaurants
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it comes down to two thingsCock Throppled said:
a) did you get good service?
b) is the business a huge chain ie: Moxies, Earls or is it a Ma & Pa type business?
well there you go, I would tip just as I would if the server was just a waitress. Hard work is hard work.Cock Throppled said:
I generally tip about 20 %.....if it is mediocre service only about 10 %....if its bad service 0%.
The food and service was so bad at one place, and they would not seriously listen to my concerns and take my meal off the bill.
So I simply left the restaurant without paying for it.
On the way out i handed my business card to the waitress and said to her.
" I am not paying for that crap you pass off as food.
This is my card.
If you feel the need turn me into the cops for theft.
Have a good day"
I never heard a word from them.
The food and service was so bad at one place, and they would not seriously listen to my concerns and take my meal off the bill.
So I simply left the restaurant without paying for it.
On the way out i handed my business card to the waitress and said to her.
" I am not paying for that crap you pass off as food.
This is my card.
If you feel the need turn me into the cops for theft.
Have a good day"
I never heard a word from them.
Fabulous thread CT. And good input from everyone. I have a favourite EI restaurant that is sometimes staffed by just the owner and his wife, I do tip, but I wondered if I was offending them. As an aside GF, if the service is really bad, don't not leave a tip, they may write it off that you just dont tip. Leave a dime or quarter, that sends the message that you do tip and this is what you think their service is worth. 
Was in the biz years ago
Tipping is done when you have had good service. 10% for the basics, 15% for friendly and attention to detail, 20% for outstanding. Outstanding is when you got everything you wanted, hot/on time and you can't remember who the server was.
Tips are shared but not always. Owners like tips and can earn them like everyone else. Don't let the type of restaurant determine your tip. I've had brutal service at 5 star restaurants and great service at Dennys.
DS
Tipping is done when you have had good service. 10% for the basics, 15% for friendly and attention to detail, 20% for outstanding. Outstanding is when you got everything you wanted, hot/on time and you can't remember who the server was.
Tips are shared but not always. Owners like tips and can earn them like everyone else. Don't let the type of restaurant determine your tip. I've had brutal service at 5 star restaurants and great service at Dennys.
DS
Dakota is correct, if you get real bad service...tip a quarter, this way they know you DIDN'T accidentally forget to tip…that’s if you’re paying by cash.Dakota Wood said:Fabulous thread CT. And good input from everyone. I have a favourite EI restaurant that is sometimes staffed by just the owner and his wife, I do tip, but I wondered if I was offending them. As an aside GF, if the service is really bad, don't not leave a tip, they may write it off that you just dont tip. Leave a dime or quarter, that sends the message that you do tip and this is what you think their service is worth.
If you paid by credit card….just write a BIG zero…in the tip part of the receipt, and write the amount of the bill at the bottom. The waiter/waitress will get the hint.
If the server just happens to be the owner, you should still tip the person as thou they are the server…..if you tip the server/owner, and you are a regular, trust me, you will get proper service the next time you come in.
Cheers
I always tip 15% or more and I fucking hate it. Why should I subsidize these chain restaurants..like they lower the prices for the money they save in wages. I paid 12 dollars for a fucking salad at milestones..that is bullshit.
Where the server is also the owner, then I would ask if the restuarant splits tips among the staff. If so then I would leave a tip. If not then I would more inclined not to tip at all. If the server is a family member then I treat them the same as anyother server. Especially if its is kid. Generally I tip 15% or $2 of any bill under $13.Cock Throppled said:
Tipping restaurant owners
Tradition has it that one should not tip an owner. It is considered rude as it implies he/she isn't doing very well in the bus.
Tradition has it that one should not tip an owner. It is considered rude as it implies he/she isn't doing very well in the bus.
Tipping
I am just curious if you happen to drink some wine at the resturant, do you still tip 15% of the total? I mean a bottle of wine at a high end resturant like Lumiere could easily go above $1,000. If one follows the 15% rule, you are paying an addtional 150 dollar tip just for the wine. The service would be the same if you drank a 50 dollar wine, but you are paying 130 dollar more for the tip....is this fair?
Also, do you tip the amount before tax or after tax? Say you have a party of 6 and opened 2 bottle of $250 dollar wine, with food total comes to $1,000 before tax. After tax it will be 1070, in another word if you follow the 15% rule, you are paying $10.5 more...
I am just curious if you happen to drink some wine at the resturant, do you still tip 15% of the total? I mean a bottle of wine at a high end resturant like Lumiere could easily go above $1,000. If one follows the 15% rule, you are paying an addtional 150 dollar tip just for the wine. The service would be the same if you drank a 50 dollar wine, but you are paying 130 dollar more for the tip....is this fair?
Also, do you tip the amount before tax or after tax? Say you have a party of 6 and opened 2 bottle of $250 dollar wine, with food total comes to $1,000 before tax. After tax it will be 1070, in another word if you follow the 15% rule, you are paying $10.5 more...
Tipping... my 2 cents
There are many arguments for and against tipping.
I do tip, usually more if the service was good.
But I do wonder why rich restaurant owners are allowed to hire servers at bargain pay rates and they get away with it because the customers so willingly tip the servers like so many sheep.
This is especially obvious in high end restaurants where a meal may cost like $300 for 4 or even more of course. The server can make a full day's wage on three tables.
Meanwhile the restaurant owner probably, again, pays the server some kind of low, below average, wage.
If everyone stopped tipping then the restaurant owner might have to actually pay his staff rather than pocket the dough.
Oh, and by the way, its not like the prices could be raised anymore than they already are.
There are many arguments for and against tipping.
I do tip, usually more if the service was good.
But I do wonder why rich restaurant owners are allowed to hire servers at bargain pay rates and they get away with it because the customers so willingly tip the servers like so many sheep.
This is especially obvious in high end restaurants where a meal may cost like $300 for 4 or even more of course. The server can make a full day's wage on three tables.
Meanwhile the restaurant owner probably, again, pays the server some kind of low, below average, wage.
If everyone stopped tipping then the restaurant owner might have to actually pay his staff rather than pocket the dough.
Oh, and by the way, its not like the prices could be raised anymore than they already are.
Prices in Vancouver restaurants are some of the best in the western world. Travel around and you'll soon discover we have the best value anywhere (and some of the best food).missing link said:
