time for reflection

[dare.devil]

Just because some are unable and unwilling to attempt to understand the complexities of various mental illnesses doesn't mean that many others can't do so. Most (of the illnesses) are incurable but most are treatable to some degree. But even succesful treatments are continually being adjusted as one's brain's reaction to them evolves over time. No one who has not suffered the loss of control of one's own thoughts can begin to understand the horrors of living in that state day after day after day. But humans are resilient and learn, with the help of modern science, to cope for the most part. The struggle on a daily basis typically involves your own 'voices' telling you how worthless you are, etc., etc. and urging you to harm yourself or even take your own life. Unfortunately, the 'Paranoid' part of Paranoid Schizophrenic often manifests as a fear that everyone around you, usually in a public place, are watching you and talking about you in a negative way. Occasionally that fear could extend to a feeling that the sufferer was being pursued and attacked by the complete strangers around them. This can be where their actions , perceived by them to be necessary for survival, can end up in a very tragic result for all involved.
Our society, for the most part, does not and must not punish those afflicted with such problems by taking away their personal freedom without them having crossed the line of harming others. I can't disagree that the best place for those in that situation is confinement of a specialized nature, because, at this point, there is no alternative.
People from all situations of life 'snap' regularly with no previous signs of mental difficulties. In case you haven't noticed, people around the world think some really bizarre thoughts on a daily basis as well. And for the most part you can't lock them up for it. Not in a free, civilized society.
IMHO

When my life is on the line I dont give a fuck about someones elses thoughts in their heads, keep it to yourself or face confinement, as simple as that.
Is that voice coming from your head that we are saying lock them all up?

 

[westwoody]

This is the Vince Li argument all over again.
He decapitated an innocent guy but somehow Li has been turned into the victim.
The guy who killed 11 people is not the victim.
Don’t make him into a martyr.

 

[masterpoonhunter]

Heady discussions, no doubt.

Our system needs to get the full society - justice thing fixed I think that is apparent, same as the incredibly fucked up catch and release bullshit we see daily. Bottom line for me is this was homicide, mass homicide and I do not care what state this fucker was in, he should not be out in society.

A close family all of whom are friends of mine just posted that the family of 3 killed were all close friends of theirs. Another group of innocents all impacted. I state again, how many did this fuck affect? and I do not give a shit about his history, his state whatever. The system knew of his potential to go postal and it failed.

 

[angry anderson]

Heady discussions, no doubt.

Our system needs to get the full society - justice thing fixed I think that is apparent, same as the incredibly fucked up catch and release bullshit we see daily. Bottom line for me is this was homicide, mass homicide and I do not care what state this fucker was in, he should not be out in society.

A close family all of whom are friends of mine just posted that the family of 3 killed were all close friends of theirs. Another group of innocents all impacted. I state again, how many did this fuck affect? and I do not give a shit about his history, his state whatever. The system knew of his potential to go postal and it failed.

 

[80watts]

OK give him lethal injection for killing all those people.

When people go off the norm for people; then you have to bring them back in line, with drastic measures. This could be construed as Darwinism, knocking off the genes that are no longer needed in society.

 

[UAL1234]

Its much much much deeper than this

I would bet 1/2 my life savings that if this was 1995 instead of 2015 and maybe this guy had a social network and support , 11 people would still be alive today.

This male loneliness epidemic is spreading like a bubonic plauge and i am afraid stuff like this is going to happen again.

And just look at the world today. Debt , war , dictators south of the border , struggle , high cost of living , depression , more depression blah blah blah

It is enough to make the most sane person snap

"Vancouver" if you are a single middle class male you are pretty much a headcase here.

 

[SolidSnake]

Funny how certain people blame everything and anything on the dictator in the south, but not the ones in Canada where shit actually happens and hurts Canadians and our economy, long before the tariffs.

And most people who have mental issues don't become murderers. Stop conflating the two.