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The Last Supper -- no more dinner dates

Harmony-bc

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I enjoy interviewing an SP over dinner, in an honest attempt to determine the desire for further business. Paying for the meal is fine but not the time. There are so many opportunities for free female enounters that I won't pay, but for 'dessert', yes I will. I have found it far more enjoyable to have an SP travel companion along on ocassion, and at the end of my work day, she is there to provide a massage, dinner date, conversation, and playtime and snuggle thru the night. Its wonderful and much better. And on a two or three night trip, it is so good. Just choose one that will get up with you in morning to make coffee.

I do not know many girls that give thier time away for free :confused: This is not the way any professional conducts business. I understand with a regular, maybe, but you are suggesting a first time apppointment for free.

Goodness, send those poor new girls my way. They obviously need help in marketing themselves. I would not charge them a penny, or write up false reviews about them (like certain other so called marketing agents do) or bad reviews when they leave. I would just help them with their presentation, and self esteem. :D.
 

MrPeterNorth

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Yah, I've never understood paying for someone's dinner and paying the person a per-diem so to speak just to be with you at the dinner. Some SP's might think of it as cheap, but on the other hand I wouldn't take her to McDonalds either. I think it's actually greedy. But I guess food doesn't pay the rent...

And ditto the comment about French being a foreign language. Hysterical. Ignorance is bliss for some people.
 

Thatotherguy

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In closing, could I suggest to someone that French isn't a foreign language.
And ditto the comment about French being a foreign language. Hysterical. Ignorance is bliss for some people.
Um, just pointing something out here: the OP never mentioned French. He said that she talked to the waiter "in his native language" but he never said anything about what language that was. So ridiculing someone for calling it a foreign language is pretty stupid... You've made as much of an unsupported assumption as they have. :rolleyes:
 

Miami

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I wish people would realise that every individual is different, some people are good at some stuff others are good at other stuff. Please don't lump everybody into the same pile.
Cara Clementine just got a review for a dinner date. Sexy Nina Leone is very good, classy company, and many, many more.
Harmony... please don't think I am implying that all providers would act the same way that my date did. I recognize that everyone is different. I simply implied it is virtually impossible to research this stuff since reviews about social skills are generally not well received by board members. Trust me, if I could get a dinner date like the one described in this thread about Nina Leone, I will jump at the opportunity. But if I should up in City X, how would I evaluate potential dates to distinguish someone like you or Nina from the lady ended up with.


Yah, I've never understood paying for someone's dinner and paying the person a per-diem so to speak just to be with you at the dinner. .
I know what you mean.... I never understood paying someone to f**k you with a strap on or paying a TS to let you give a BJ.... these are things that do not turn me on so the concept of paying for them does not resonate with me. But I certainly don't knock those who are into it and pay for it... it is their thing and their money... and they should write reviews so that others who share their interest can benefit. I personally choose not to read those reviews. I do find it quite enticing to have a sexy, interactive dinner date with my companion prior to the main event.
That is what turns me on. Now, I do feel like I paid for this lady just to eat and I feel like a dumbass for doing it. However, my intent was to pay her to interact, flirt, flaunt and tease with me while we were eating so that I got all worked up prior to the private time. This is what turns me on. But it seems as though most advice I get is "don't pay for what turns you,,, pay for what turns the rest of us on".
I agreed to pay this lady for entire date, because I had expectations during the date that the goal of the evening will be to focus on my needs and desires.
As a matter of fact, I used those exact words in my preliminary emails. I told her that I wanted someone who would stoke my ego before she stroked my Dick. I really can't demand her time, and set those expectations for our interaction and not compensate her. If I she wasn't being compensated then I really can't complain about her 30 min conversation with the waiter, or the fact that she answered her cell and excused herself to send text messages for 15 minutes.

I understand her job is difficult as she has to adjust to a client with your needs one night and client with my very different needs the next night. So my big issue with her is that she ignored my repeated request to refrain from these issues and the fact that I had so clearly indicated what I was seeking prior the date.
I spend 5-6 nights a month in her city... I would have gladly made this a recurring date if things had worked out.

BTW, once I invited lady from my work environment to join me for a dinner date.
It was wonderful, I thought. She was romantic and seductive during dinner and we spent some private time after. However, things went awry when I discovered that she was absolutely furious that I didn't make contact with her for two weeks after that encounter. I explained that I was on the road traveling for business. She reminded me that they have phones and email in Asia and Europe. She called me all kinds of names and shared these details with mutual business associates. I always refer to her as the woman who drive me to escorts.
 

HB40

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Harmony... please don't think I am implying that all providers would act the same way that my date did. I recognize that everyone is different. I simply implied it is virtually impossible to research this stuff since reviews about social skills are generally not well received by board members. Trust me, if I could get a dinner date like the one described in this thread about Nina Leone, I will jump at the opportunity. But if I should up in City X, how would I evaluate potential dates to distinguish someone like you or Nina from the lady ended up with.
Miami, Harmony's comments were a rebuttal to Lebeau's post suggesting all escorts have conditioned themselves to diconnect from feelings and shut down emotions. I'm sure Harmony agrees with you on the points of escorts/courtesans being suitable dinner companions with all the experiences and attention to be seductive, engaging and interesting dates.

Perhaps a better approach to your research would be to post in 411 asking for PM's about fellow pooners experiences with local escorts for dinner companions. As stated a few of us enjoy and seek out those types of encounters but prefer to keep it more discreet, afterall it is a more personal and intimate affair, not usually something others want to divulge publicly. :)


PS Spermie I hope you burn in hell! I truly hate your blasphemous posts, religious or not I find them offensive.
 
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Miami

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Thanks HB40 for the clarification on Harmony's comment.

Good idea about seeking information via pm. I had not thought about the 411 section
 

Bartdude

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However, things went awry when I discovered that she was absolutely furious that I didn't make contact with her for two weeks after that encounter. I explained that I was on the road traveling for business. She reminded me that they have phones and email in Asia and Europe. She called me all kinds of names and shared these details with mutual business associates. I always refer to her as the woman who drive me to escorts.
I don't wanna hijack this thread, but I don't blame her.

If you did really connect, and have some good "private time", and then didn't even contact her for two whole weeks - kinda rude.

Not saying you have to call her the day after from China or anything like that, but an email a few days or a week after to acknowledge her would have been nice.

Unless it was your intention to just have a one-nighter, then I can understand.

But blaming her for being upset is a bit obtuse on your part, IMO.
 

Thatotherguy

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I know what you mean.... I never understood paying someone to f**k you with a strap on or paying a TS to let you give a BJ.... these are things that do not turn me on so the concept of paying for them does not resonate with me. But I certainly don't knock those who are into it and pay for it... it is their thing and their money... and they should write reviews so that others who share their interest can benefit. I personally choose not to read those reviews. I do find it quite enticing to have a sexy, interactive dinner date with my companion prior to the main event.
That is what turns me on. Now, I do feel like I paid for this lady just to eat and I feel like a dumbass for doing it. However, my intent was to pay her to interact, flirt, flaunt and tease with me while we were eating so that I got all worked up prior to the private time. This is what turns me on. But it seems as though most advice I get is "don't pay for what turns you,,, pay for what turns the rest of us on".
Well said. Ignore those who are basically saying you shouldn't bother paying for social time. I wouldn't pay for social time myself (although maybe I would if I did as much business traveling as you seem to do), but I don't see any reason why you shouldn't if you enjoy doing that.
 

Miami

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I don't wanna hijack this thread, but I don't blame her.

If you did really connect, and have some good "private time", and then didn't even contact her for two whole weeks - kinda rude.

Not saying you have to call her the day after from China or anything like that, but an email a few days or a week after to acknowledge her would have been nice.

Unless it was your intention to just have a one-nighter, then I can understand.

But blaming her for being upset is a bit obtuse on your part, IMO.
I don't want to start a new thread... but as I explained to her... I certainly would have answered an email had she sent one to me. She owned a phone and computer as well. But my only issue with her was bringing our mutual business associates into the drama before I even returned to discuss it with her.
 

Bartdude

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I don't want to start a new thread... but as I explained to her... I certainly would have answered an email had she sent one to me. She owned a phone and computer as well. But my only issue with her was bringing our mutual business associates into the drama before I even returned to discuss it with her.
I am sure that she was extremely hurt by what happened, but she did not need to react with such volatility. Her disappointment could have been expressed in a calm fashion and perhaps the op would have had a chance to apologised and understand better that this was the type of woman who needed more reassurance. Being needy and insecure definitely sucks. I was there for much of my life. Not fun and I think as lovely as she was for the date she lacked the attitude and communication skills that would make for a good relationship.

xoxo
Nina
Yeah, I definitely don't agree with her airing it out in public, totally not cool...
 

Jodie

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An extended Dinner Date, going out to a restaurant, with an SP is always a disaster.
That's quite the generalization.

If you speak from personal experience, you clearly did not do enough research before choosing your companions. I have had many, many dinner dates over the years, and I think every single one of them went exceedingly well, from both my point of view and my clients'.

It is difficult for them to make the conversion from keeping their head straight and being a convincible sexy companion or a friend in public for an extended period; especially if they just met you. It ain't gonna happen.
I beg to differ. Again, you can only speak from your own experience, but I know I am not alone in saying that I have no difficulty maintaining conversation and being a convincing friend, sexy companion or business associate in public for an extended period of time. I think of dinner dates as just that: dates - how would I behave if I was out on a first date trying to impress a prospective partner?

Dinner dates are very much in demand, and fortunately there are many socially and intellectually talented escorts who provide this service with class and maturity.
 

bobby

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I enjoy interviewing an SP over dinner, in an honest attempt to determine the desire for further business. Paying for the meal is fine but not the time. There are so many opportunities for free female enounters that I won't pay, but for 'dessert', yes I will. I have found it far more enjoyable to have an SP travel companion along on ocassion, and at the end of my work day, she is there to provide a massage, dinner date, conversation, and playtime and snuggle thru the night. Its wonderful and much better. And on a two or three night trip, it is so good. Just choose one that will get up with you in morning to make coffee.
In closing, could I suggest to someone that French isn't a foreign language.
i'm the same i'll pay for dinner and drinks but if we're dining at a fine restuarant i'm not going to pay you to eat the food as well no chance, times are tough way to many hot women will put out for a nice dinner and drinks alone
 

high-end hottie

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screening a dinner companion

I'm sorry to hear about your negative experience, Miami. For those who seek a companion for dinner, it is a good idea to screen your prospective escort/courtesan with a phone conversation prior to meeting. This costs you nothing and will give you a good indication of whether or not the two of you will be compatible, and if she can carry on an intelligent conversation. Asking a few questions regarding her idea of what discretion means and how exclusive she is would have proved valuable in making your decision.

Better luck next time--there are gems out there for those who know where to look.
 

Bigdog888

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Longer date

I am sorry to hear your bad experience. I am from Los Angeles, I only do longer date(24 hrs or more) and for Vegas, or local events(show, theater...)

I have only very few ATF here in L.A.,two actually, Its harder and harder to find a SP can be a good company for a little vacation together here. Most of the girls here do not meet my needs, so I am looking for Canada for solution(or worldwide), I have looking into this board for 3 months and have found some interesting SP in your area, After read your post, make me think it twice.

Is it really that bad? or any recommendation?
 

Miami

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I am sorry to hear your bad experience. I am from Los Angeles, I only do longer date(24 hrs or more) and for Vegas, or local events(show, theater...)

I have only very few ATF here in L.A.,two actually, Its harder and harder to find a SP can be a good company for a little vacation together here. Most of the girls here do not meet my needs, so I am looking for Canada for solution(or worldwide), I have looking into this board for 3 months and have found some interesting SP in your area, After read your post, make me think it twice.

Is it really that bad? or any recommendation?
24hrs... and here I thought I was going big with my dinner date.
Needless to say I was a feeling pretty ripped off and thus the reason for this thread. As far as advice, I would recommend you read through this thread and capitalize on the advice given to me. Some good words of wisdom were put out there from both sp's and clients. By the way, this scenario that I described did not occur in British Columbia.. it was on the east side of the country.
If you do venture into a longer rendezvous with a Canadian lady, please let me know what you discover (via review or pm). Good Luck!
 

MrPeterNorth

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Bigdog888 said:
I am from Los Angeles
Are you sure about that? You don't really give the readers anything convincing to have us believe that's really the case.

I don't really have many pet-peeves in this world, but Engrish is definitely one of them, LOL.

so I am looking for Canada
Well, Canada is right here! It's the big country above the United States. Hard to miss, being the 2nd largest land-mass on Earth, LOL.

I digress, sorry to go off-track. I still think it's pretty sad when a guy pays for a $200+ dinner, and still has to pay a "date" to be with him. That definitely crosses my line. I've done the dinner thing with 'girls in the hobby' before, but I've never and will never pay while they're being fed food at my expense. I love having dinner, and starting the foreplay that way. But it just seems so contrived if I were to pay her to be there on top of it. You know, are the jokes funny because I'm funny, or is she only laughing because she's making $100+/hr to laugh at my jokes. I think you see where I'm going with this.
 
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