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The Hypocrisy of Pipeline Protestors

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Oh, you mean my university student niece and her friends? Or one of my siblings? Or my retired friend who is an environmentalist and a longtime supporter of First Nations rights? Did you listen to CBC radio this morning, one of the organisers that they interviewed is a Master's student at UBC.
So, mostly people that don't have jobs.
 

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Oh, you mean my university student niece and her friends? Or one of my siblings? Or my retired friend who is an environmentalist and a longtime supporter of First Nations rights? Did you listen to CBC radio this morning, one of the organisers that they interviewed is a Master's student at UBC.
so you know 4 people, lol

CBC, yeah, that's a reliable source when it comes to these type of events, lol

you really think the biased twit that sent the reporter there told them to go find the best person to interview?

they pick out people who fit their biases, just like Global, Fox, CTV, ect......

they're playing to the 3000 still watching them, lol

doesn't matter that they're all at the protests :heh:

it's well know, been reported more than once in the last decade, that there are "paid protesters" that have been seen at multiple protests, not the same subject being protested, same area of the country, they are pro protesters, believe there is a ranking system and trading cards too!!

so while you might know 4 people, hardly proof that a portion aren't being supported

just look at this guy, https://twitter.com/MikeHudema

it's a job for him, you really think they're aren't any like him down at these events?

sure, cause it hasn't been going on for the last 15 yrs
 

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CBC, yeah, that's a reliable source when it comes to these type of events, lol
The fact he quoted CBC as a reliable objective source, the far left station who takes Trudeau's 595$M Bailout money to push Liberal propaganda, and props up Climate Hypocrite David Suzuki (who has his own houses around the world which he flies to multiple times a year, and owns part of a mining site with an oil company) basically digs his own grave.
 

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The fact is - there are 13 hereditary chiefs, and 5 - that's five - are the ones promoting these blockades, disruptions and protests by the people who desperately look every day for some issue to protest.

I'm not that good at math, but 5 out of 13 is not close to a majority, and the elected chiefs are all in favour, not to mention probably the bulk of band members, plus they already lost in the Supreme Court.

That means these small groups of 50 - 100 anarchists are holding the rest of the country hostage, while police and politicians dither.

Start arresting them, one at a time, and let the RCMP start doing their paperwork.
 

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Why don't you use technology? Go on Instagram or Twitter, search #Wetsuwetenstrong, then search the accounts that posted and made the tags - real people, leading real lives. So stop being ignorant. It just doesn't fit the narrative of the rightwing.

Personally since the '80s I have attended peace rallies, protests at MLA's offices and the legislature against government cuts and environmental marches...and I have never been paid or arrested.
 

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Why don't you use technology? Go on Instagram or Twitter, search #Wetsuwetenstrong, then search the accounts that posted and made the tags - real people, leading real lives. So stop being ignorant. It just doesn't fit the narrative of the rightwing.

Personally since the '80s I have attended peace rallies, protests at MLA's offices and the legislature against government cuts and environmental marches...and I have never been paid or arrested.
Just because you are gullible enough to believe everything on the internet, or Biased left wing mainstream media propaganda, which cherry pick events that support their narrative (exactly as you do) and ignore those against it, doesn't mean it's true.

Persoanlly, I work in the law courts, and most times when a so called altruistic environmental protestor makes an ' appearance' , they are represented by PAID legal counsel. And these protestors are usually poor people who don't even own suits, they show up to court in jeans, dirty scruffy clothing with bad hygeine etc . So tell me where these poor people who can't afford decent clothes, or even a shave and shower, are getting their legal fees paid for? Even a 1st year lawyer with no experience charges $150/hr and a retainer starts at least $5000 nowdays. I'd like to hear what kind of BS Left wing excuse you can come up with now to try disparage my own personal experience and knowledge.
 

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Why don't you use technology? Go on Instagram or Twitter, search #Wetsuwetenstrong, then search the accounts that posted and made the tags - real people, leading real lives. So stop being ignorant. It just doesn't fit the narrative of the rightwing.

Personally since the '80s I have attended peace rallies, protests at MLA's offices and the legislature against government cuts and environmental marches...and I have never been paid or arrested.
And how do you feel about democracy?

Majority rules?

Will of the people?

Rule of law?
 

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Blocking major routes so people can't get to work, get to their medical appointments, go to school, drop off and pick up their kids, etc.

Two days ago a major intersection beside a hospital was blocked. WTF. Emergency services already have a hard enough time getting around Vancouver on a good traffic day.
 

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And how do you feel about democracy?

Majority rules?

Will of the people?

Rule of law?
Communists/socialists don't care about democracy/rule of law or freedom of speech. Yet they are unwilling to move to real communist/socialist countries, only want to enjoy the freedoms/benefits of capitalism/democracy while destroying it at the same time
 

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I'll just do a block reply.

You can't cite freedom of speech and then deny a protesters right to protest.

You can't cite democracy and then place the value of someone's rights based on their wealth or employment

Weren't former Green Party Leader and current MP Elizabeth May and former NDP MLA and current Vancouver Mayor Kennedy Stewart arrested for breaching the injunction while protesting against the Trans Mountain expansion, were they paid protesters?
 

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Weren't former Green Party Leader and current MP Elizabeth May and former NDP MLA and current Vancouver Mayor Kennedy Stewart arrested for breaching the injunction while protesting against the Trans Mountain expansion, were they paid protesters?
Yup....they were paid in the kind of publicity they needed to get elected/re-elected as the case may be.
 

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I'll just do a block reply.

You can't cite freedom of speech and then deny a protesters right to protest *In a LEGAL manner that does not interfere with the rights and freedoms others, and in accordance to the law. These protestors exercised their freedom of speech in a way that contrary to the rights and freedoms of others in violation of traffic law.

You can't cite democracy and then place the value of someone's rights based on their wealth or employment this is unpersuasive, there are people of varying income/wealth that benefit from either side of the debate. I know unemployed people in the energy sector, who definitely are not wealthy and have families to support, in part because of environmental protestors. Do you speak for them also?

Weren't former Green Party Leader and current MP Elizabeth May and former NDP MLA and current Vancouver Mayor Kennedy Stewart arrested for breaching the injunction while protesting against the Trans Mountain expansion, were they paid protesters?This is a logical fallacy. Just because 'some' of the protesters were not directly paid, doesn't exculpate all of the protestors for not receiving some type of benefit. Regardless, they clearly indirectly benefited from their protest, even if they were not directly 'paid' their Far-left actifist/Antifa voter base is riled up and voted for them in part because of their illegal activism. I am curious if they paid for their own legal fees directly, or used their office/taxpayer to pay for it. These are poor arguments IMO
FIXED for you!
 

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FIXED for you!
Sorry bro, but you may not know, Kennedy Stewart is now the current Mayor of Vancouver which means his appeal has to have a fairly broad base in order for him to have been elected. Period.

The statement was made that they are paid protesters, when I personally know people who participated in protests over the past week and were not paid. Period.

Other posters were dismissing the democratic rights of people based on perceived wealth and employment, not me. Period.

And unless it was missed in my very first post, I clearly stated I am not here to defend the protesters position, but to clear up the conspiratal misconception that they are being paid to protest. Period.

Gandhi, Mandela and Martin Luther King Jr all participated in dissent and civil disobedience, at the time they were seen as criminals and extremists, but history now looks back on their actions as morally justified and deserving of admiration and respect. Maybe this is the First Nations' time?
 

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FIXED for you!
You can bring a Horse to water.....but can't make it drink. The only person here who agrees with this person is himself and those in his echo chamber. The 4 people she/he knows who allegedly don't get money(or benefits) don't mean all protestors are inculpable. This is clearly stereotypical and flawed thinking, if A doesnet do this, then B and C by implication don't also? Every time he is clearly cornered in an argument, he shifts the goal posts. You can't argue with someone who weasels outnof logic like him, who uses logic only when it suites him, and ignores it when it doesn't, they don't have real principals and true conviction, and can't admit fault. It is more about Pride and fake virtue than facts and reality


There is both empirical/anecdotal evidence here some protestors receive benefits for their actions (as well as the protest groups that are sponsored) which she/he refuse to accept, causing her/him cognitive dissonance as her/his worldview is shattered by facts. He may well know people who protest for 'free' but those are just chumps who don't know they can get paid for being the useful idiots they are.
 
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Communists/socialists don't care about democracy/rule of law or freedom of speech. Yet they are unwilling to move to real communist/socialist countries, only want to enjoy the freedoms/benefits of capitalism/democracy while destroying it at the same time
Dead on the bullseye Sir.As for the "fake" protestors this is what you wont see on the CBC

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And in the meantime record temperatures are melting both the northern and southern polar caps and the climate change denialist continue to extract and burn fossil fuels like there is an endless supply that will last for generations and generations to come.
So please continue to attack those who seek to save and protect the mother earth.

You are cut from the same cloth as the Colonists and Invaders who took away indigenous lands and rights.

I will be dead in a few years and you if you are younger than 40 will realize what was factual and not factual. I hope it isn't too late.
 

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New rail blockade halts West Coast Express, CP train service in Metro Vancouver

https://globalnews.ca/news/6548918/wetsuweten-rail-blockades-lower-mainland/

Stranding thousands. Children in daycare and their mother's stranded. Alternative way to MapleRidge inadequate.
I believe in free speech, but this has gone on long enough. Half or more of the protesters, non-native. Most do not even know what they are protesting.
Time for it to end!

Biting tongue so hard it is bleeding, trying to be civil

Bob
 

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The Liberals constantly trumpet that they are supporting "the middle class and those working hard to join it". Who are the rail and street blockades by a few hundred unemployed (I'm assuming..who else has all this spare time to protest?) professional protestors hurting the most? how many rail workers are about to be laid off? Is the average commuter whose time is wasted by these mobs middle class or working hard to join it? Who is running this country, the government or a mob of entitled radical left protesters?
 
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