The Democrats... Jesus.

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nightswhisper

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He didn't win by a landslide in 2016. Perhaps the poster that said this doesn't realize that landslide is an actual measurable term in the presidential elections.
Fact: Trump did not win by a landslide
Fact: Trump did not win the popular vote.
But hey, apparently some people like him.
And for the record I think the way US elections are conducted is ridiculous. In my reality most votes wins, but that's just me.
Then Vancouver shouldn't vote at all. Toronto should decide the next premier and prime minister for everyone.
 

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nightwhisper, it's almost exactly the Trolley Problem. Yes, action inflicts harm. Inaction inflicts more. You can only be confident in your conclusion by neglecting half the consequences. It's far from that cut and dry.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not condoning violence or injustice. I'd prefer a world where everyone has justice, but in lieu of that, if a side effect of social change promotes more justice than injustice, that's still a net win.
Socialism has destroyed China and Russia. I see the same discrimination in Chinese revolutionary communism as I do in things like BLM and Social Justice Warriors. These people use social movement to kill, maim and destroy while championing social justice.

So no. There is no net win. Rather than tell other people what to do, improve oneself. Education is far more important than mass demonstrations.

People in the western hemisphere need some humility.
 

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Hillary was a weaker candidate in 2016 because of her flawed character. Trump beat 12 other republican candidates, while the democratic/Clinton machine had to steal the nomination from Bernie Sanders. The Democrats are going to lose big in 2020, and they deserve everything they get. People are not going to forget the SpyGate scandal because the other side will be dripping out information every day until Election Day. Even though the mainstream media won’t report on it, this is by far the biggest political scandal in U.S. history.
Do you not think that FBI investigated Trumps team because of their direct contacts with Russians of dubious character as a matter of good police practices? Manifort, Gates, Flynn et al had many known meetings and the FBI uncovered substantial communications with Russian oligarchs. This is what these republicans do is never admit wrongdoing and say what about the other guy.

They create another scandal to cloud the investigations already underway.

Following the money will show the corruption of this administration.
 

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Bear in mind, Trump is responsible for this:


These poor kids haven't seen their parents for years (!!!), and denied even basics like soap.

If Americans think that this is OK and Trump is the right person for the 2nd term, then they deserve who they get.
Really? Trump is responsible? Hasn't he told them not to come? How about blaming the people who put their kids in that position?
And where was your outrage when the same was done under Obama's administration?

Those are social workers, who sound quite sympathetic. Of course the kids are confused and upset. They've just been dragged thousands of miles, under harsh conditions, through multiple countries, and have no idea what's going on.

And .."These poor kids haven't seen their parents for years (!!!)"... Care to cite something factual to back up that one? Other than the system is overwhelmed by thousands of people a month, and can't keep up, most people are held a maximum of 20 days. A bill was signed a year ago to not separate kids from actual, proveable parents.

A new bill authorises billions for humanitarian aid. A bill the Democrats held up.

Plus, I believe anyone held in detention can be releasd by rescinding their asylum application.
 

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Do you not think that FBI investigated Trumps team because of their direct contacts with Russians of dubious character as a matter of good police practices? Manifort, Gates, Flynn et al had many known meetings and the FBI uncovered substantial communications with Russian oligarchs. This is what these republicans do is never admit wrongdoing and say what about the other guy.

They create another scandal to cloud the investigations already underway.

Following the money will show the corruption of this administration.
The final report is out. Give it up already.
 

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This is called a Due Diligence check and is looking into abuse while investigations of Trump happened. This is in defense of the legal process as well as the President.

You should read what you link before posting. Lol.
lol! ten characters of text for this post.
 

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This is called a Due Diligence check and is looking into abuse while investigations of Trump happened. This is in defense of the legal process as well as the President.

You should read what you link before posting. Lol.
If you think anything Barr does is not political you are either a fool or a troll.

From Day 1 he has acted more as a political arm of the executive branch than a neutral Attorney General of the US.

Go have another glass of Trump Koolaid.
 

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Do you not think that FBI investigated Trumps team because of their direct contacts with Russians of dubious character as a matter of good police practices? Manifort, Gates, Flynn et al had many known meetings and the FBI uncovered substantial communications with Russian oligarchs. This is what these republicans do is never admit wrongdoing and say what about the other guy.

They create another scandal to cloud the investigations already underway.

Following the money will show the corruption of this administration.
These people you mentioned will all be exonerated once the truth comes out that the Deep State Democrats and Republicans tried to use the Mueller investigation as an insurance policy in case Hillary lost by impeaching Trump for something, anything they could, they failed. But they are still trying to keep it alive by pretending there is something to it. It is sort of like Golden State saying we want to replay game six because they didn't like the result. The Dems have nothing to offer but ‘get rid of Trump.’ Even if they do, it doesn’t matter...the truth is coming out. X22report, Judicial Watch and too many good Republicans like Jim Jordan who will never let it go. The DemoCrips are so corrupt now a days, it’s pathetic.
 

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Luckily, there are true , woke, progressive and honest Democrats to lead the way...
 

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The whole Trump-Russia thing, there is probably more to it then what has been discovered or in mainstream news.

Trump is all about ego... so why not release his taxes, unless he has something to hide. If he is a billionaire then the tax documents would prove it. But the thing is that the tax documents will reveal who he does business with. Alot of speculation that Trump business has taken him into contact with Russian Mobsters/Russian Government.

If you are running for the President of the USA, business ties or not, you need to distance yourself from the unofficial enemy of the USA (Cold war- communism vs capitalism). Getting dirt on Hilliary through the Russians, whether true or not, its how they got the information that speaks volumes, leaving yourself open to blackmail because of where the information came from.

As for making America Great again, unless he goes on a world conquering spree, America will economically fade, due to cheaper labour from India and China. Robotics could help, but what do the people do? Also America is a country that has big problems with pollution (toxic waste dumps) and garbage waste, there are vast areas where the land is unfit for human habitation. Add in the floods, hurricanes and tornadoes in the last 10 years and ask can American afford to keep replacing buildings and infrastructure due to storms with such frequent happenings. Major Corporations will start to abandon the US when it becomes a toxic wasteland...

Tech is keeping America afloat, but the gap is closing between India, China, and Russia....

As for military might, you can have the best plane, ship, tank out there, but if you don't have enough of them, you loose to attrition... Look at Germany in WW2, they had some of the best equipment in tanks and ships, but the allies out produced them in tanks, ships and planes. Not to metioned they cut off their fuel resources in southern Russia and Romania.

Today America is fracking to produce more oil (which lowered world prices 4/5 years ago), they are bleeding themselves dry.

Also most retail stores will close due to the mail order business of Amazon, wayfair etc. No wonder those specialty shops cost so much..... Big box stores like Walmart get most of their inventory from overseas at cheaper labour costs and still make a big profit from it. Big corporation will get richer and the middle class will fade more into poverty.....
 

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These pictures are from 2014, when Obama was in power

https://qz.com/1291470/photos-immigrant-children-detained-at-the-placement-center-in-2014/

Where was the outrage? The current conditions look similar to those under Obama.
Obama never made it a policy to separate children from their parents UNLESS there were certain circumstances (e.g. no family ties could be established, etc). Or in some cases, when the children came alone.

The zero tolerance policy started under Trump.

https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/did-the-obama-administration-separate-families/

Cecilia Muñoz, director of the Obama administration’s Domestic Policy Council, told the New York Times this month that a multi-agency team was considering “every possible idea” at the time, including separating families. “I do remember looking at each other like, ‘We’re not going to do this, are we?’ We spent five minutes thinking it through and concluded that it was a bad idea,” the Times quoted Muñoz saying. “The morality of it was clear — that’s not who we are.”

While the family separation policy is legal, IT'S NOT MORAL. 200 years ago, slavery in the southern US was perfectly legal. I'm sure the Nazis thought that exterminating Jews was perfectly legal too. If someone is going to cling to legality as justification for Trump's actions, then I'm sorry for your humanity. Welcome to my ignore list.
 

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Welcome to my ignore list.
Meh...no problem. I've had you on mine for over a year probably because of the excessive "progressive" hyperbole as exhibited by the comparisons of Nazis rounding up and gassing Jews and blacks being put in lifelong servitude as chattel, to what was an intended but poorly executed attempt to slow down the influx of migrants crossing illegally across the border of a sovereign country in which it was their choice to break the law and face the consequences.

And then because I am not in full agreement with one of your talking points I lack humanity. Well ok. Right out of the Alexandria Ocasio Cortez "concentration camp" progressive democrat playbook of hysteria.
 
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