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Crookedmember

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What the fuck? That's a complete lie. The 2000 election was so close in electoral count that they had to recount.

Also, popular vote, while important, shouldn't determine the candidate. Political platforms that appeal to a wide geographic range of people (electoral college) should take precedence over popular vote. Major urban centers full of filmmakers like Los Angeles shouldn't have more voting jurisdiction over dairy farmers in Alabama or Wyoming.

You can hate Trump but don't use ignorance as a weapon to hate him.
I said "one of," not "the" smallest.
 

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At least trump cares about misogynistic, racist, homophobic, rapist, Alt Right, Religious (though he is not), anti FBI, anti CIA, Anti NSA, pro demigod, pro dictator American citizens unlike Trudeau
Think I got most of them. Feel free to add more as required.

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Think I got most of them. Feel free to add more as required.
It's weird that you label Trump as all those things but fail to mention:

- Fourth Wave feminism has become extremely misandrist and militant and have turned to quantitatively solving qualitative problems.
- Black Lives Matters is violent, racist, and sponsored by Soros who loves social upheavals to further his stocks and monetary gains.
- Sexual identity movement has uprooted human sexuality and turned two-gender talk into hate speech. First it was gay pride. Then LGBT. Then LGBTQ. Then LGBTQ+. We have never had more of a crisis of compelled speech and challenge to our right to expression than bill C-16 in Canada and its equivalent in the US.
- "Me Too" movement has made private interactions between men and women at major corporations a taboo practice to the point that men fear or dread interacting with women.

Yet somehow, of all of these people who have played identity politics reminiscent of Obama's national policies, Trump, who has never played any sort of identity politics, is to blame. The generation of people who lack character education and are actively destroying upper-class culture are somehow exonerated? I have seen less aggressive behavior from Nazi skinheads or even Racist white people than I have seen from angry lesbian college students.

Maybe you need to stop reading newspapers and travel a little more.
 

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It's weird that you label Trump as all those things but fail to mention:

- Fourth Wave feminism has become extremely misandrist and militant and have turned to quantitatively solving qualitative problems.
- Black Lives Matters is violent, racist, and sponsored by Soros who loves social upheavals to further his stocks and monetary gains.
- Sexual identity movement has uprooted human sexuality and turned two-gender talk into hate speech. First it was gay pride. Then LGBT. Then LGBTQ. Then LGBTQ+. We have never had more of a crisis of compelled speech and challenge to our right to expression than bill C-16 in Canada and its equivalent in the US.
- "Me Too" movement has made private interactions between men and women at major corporations a taboo practice to the point that men fear or dread interacting with women.
When there's more misandry than misogyny, when BLM is responsible for more violence, death, and racism than the institutions they protest, when straight people suffer more violence and ostracism than LGBTQ, and when men are falsely accused more than female rape victims go without justice, you might have a point.

And if you think any of that has already happened (that the scales have tipped such that white straight males are now the ones who suffer the greatest injustice) you're living in a bubble, whether you're travelling or not.

I have seen less aggressive behavior from Nazi skinheads or even Racist white people than I have seen from angry lesbian college students.
Perhaps because the skinheads and racists are confident and don't feel threatened.
 
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He will win in bigger landslide in 2020. Popular vote means absolutely nothing. Big cities like NY, LA, etc. do not get to decide policy in "flyover" states with an electoral college.

Democrats have not been told what to think/who to vote for yet, either.

Some people like people who help fake hate crimes, some people like communist idiots like Bernie, with multi-trillion dollar tax plans.

There are so many candidates, I'm not sure who the DNC will rig the primary for this year.
Probably Biden, Biden can't win against Donald J Trump. With Nancy Pelosi refusing to begin impeachment proceedings against Trump, Americans know that the Democrats won't do anything for them.
 

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When there's more misandry than misogyny,
When men die more on the job, commit more suicides due to social pressure, get used for free food, are expected to be providers in about every way, get blamed for gender pay gap, the argument for misogyny becomes moot.

when BLM is responsible for more violence, death, and racism than the institutions they protest,
You mean when BLM says White Cops kill more Blacks, but the reality is that black offenders commit 52% of the crime in America, despite only being 13% of the population?

Or how they protest injustice by looting? Or the time that 3 little babies got killed by black people, but BLM doesn't care because the perpetrator isn't a police? Evidently, not all black lives matter.

Institutional racism is bullshit. The system isn't built to be racist.

when straight people suffer more violence and ostracism than LGBTQ,
Except these same ostracized people are attacking other ostracized people. They don't even have a united front against discrimination.

My personal assistant, who is a transgender, went to a conference with me, where a gay man humiliated her in front of a room full of people because she wasn't a woman.

I spent a night in jail for punching the guy in the face.

and when men are falsely accused more than female rape victims go without justice, you might have a point.
You mean like when work cultures have shifted to the point where men are terrified of women accusing them of rape, or how how rape is a problem in both genders?

And if you think any of that has already happened (that the scales have tipped such that white straight males are now the ones who suffer the greatest injustice) you're living in a bubble, whether you're travelling or not.
Outright discrimination against non-whites is grounded in fear or lack proper enlightenment. Affirmative action discrimination against white people is grounded in retribution.

The former can be changed through education and reform. The latter is unconscionable and morally bankrupt. That one would even suggest comparing statistics that shouldn't be compared makes one horribly inconsiderate of the damage they are inflicting on fellow humanity.
 

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That one would even suggest comparing statistics that shouldn't be compared makes one horribly inconsiderate of the damage they are inflicting on fellow humanity.
nightwhisper, it's almost exactly the Trolley Problem. Yes, action inflicts harm. Inaction inflicts more. You can only be confident in your conclusion by neglecting half the consequences. It's far from that cut and dry.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not condoning violence or injustice. I'd prefer a world where everyone has justice, but in lieu of that, if a side effect of social change promotes more justice than injustice, that's still a net win.
 

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Predict what you will, but by what measure did he "win by a landslide" in 2016?
He didn't win by a landslide in 2016. Perhaps the poster that said this doesn't realize that landslide is an actual measurable term in the presidential elections.
Fact: Trump did not win by a landslide
Fact: Trump did not win the popular vote.
But hey, apparently some people like him.
And for the record I think the way US elections are conducted is ridiculous. In my reality most votes wins, but that's just me.
 

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Fact: Only the electoral college matters.


Nobody cares if you value the outcome differently RE: popular vote. Smaller population states should have a say in a federal election. Cali/NY should not decide an entire country's fate.

You can keep clinging on the popular vote but it literally means absolutely nothing. That will not get a liberal whack job elected in 2020.

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/...ng-Fraud-Scheme-in-Los-Angeles-511971752.html
This is also likely happening in sanctuary cities. [Look at the electoral map, cross reference with sanctuary city location]
Dead people and illegal aliens should not be able to vote.
 

Zeppski

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You missed my point or just don't understand. Doesn't matter that he won or by how much,point is, despite winning his rating was very low. He won because he didn't have any worthwhile competition in 2016.
He doesn't have any competition in 2020 either.

Democrats proved in the debates that they care about virtue signaling and foreign citizens more than their own people. Why the fuck should an American taxpayer pay for healthcare of anybody who freely crosses their border???
 

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He doesn't have any competition in 2020 either.

Democrats proved in the debates that they care about virtue signaling and foreign citizens more than their own people. Why the fuck should an American taxpayer pay for healthcare of anybody who freely crosses their border???
Democrats are a rudderless ship. The two debates were pathetic and if there was a ballot, none of the above would be the choice of the delegates.

They need someone who will have a vision and be able to handle the incumbent man-child.

I heard Jon Stewart talking recently and he was touting Oprah. Black female self made multimillionaire is some pretty good things to have on the resume. If Republicans can have B list actor and a reality TV host, why not Oprah?
 

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Fact: Only the electoral college matters.


Nobody cares if you value the outcome differently RE: popular vote. Smaller population states should have a say in a federal election. Cali/NY should not decide an entire country's fate.

You can keep clinging on the popular vote but it literally means absolutely nothing. That will not get a liberal whack job elected in 2020.

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/...ng-Fraud-Scheme-in-Los-Angeles-511971752.html
This is also likely happening in sanctuary cities. [Look at the electoral map, cross reference with sanctuary city location]
Dead people and illegal aliens should not be able to vote.
Several states are changing their voting position such that their electoral college votes all go to the popular vote winner.

Others are getting more to the point by not allowing candidates to be on the ballot in their state if the candidate has not provided their tax returns.
 

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Hillary was a weaker candidate in 2016 because of her flawed character. Trump beat 12 other republican candidates, while the democratic/Clinton machine had to steal the nomination from Bernie Sanders. The Democrats are going to lose big in 2020, and they deserve everything they get. People are not going to forget the SpyGate scandal because the other side will be dripping out information every day until Election Day. Even though the mainstream media won’t report on it, this is by far the biggest political scandal in U.S. history.
 

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Bear in mind, Trump is responsible for this:


I remember when I was 7, my mom was supposed to pick me up from school but was delayed by over 3 hours. When she finally arrived - I still remember how irrationally and violently upset I was, to this day. These poor kids haven't seen their parents for years (!!!), and denied even basics like soap.

If Americans think that this is OK and Trump is the right person for the 2nd term, then they deserve who they get.
 
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nightswhisper

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Bear in mind, Trump is responsible for this:


I remember when I was 7, my mom was supposed to pick me up from school but was delayed by over 3 hours. When she finally arrived - I still remember how irrationally and violently upset I was, to this day. These poor kids haven't seen their parents for years (!!!), and denied even basics like soap.

If Americans think that this is OK and Trump is the right person for the 2nd term, then they deserve who they get.
Don't fucking do illegal things. These people deserve no sympathy.

Don't use Canadian values to evaluate American problems. We are not the same country and don't have the same problems.
 
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