Believers are going to believe no matter what and no book, movie or argument will shake them. That's all part of "faith" isn't it? I have devout Catholic friends who are not shaken in their devotion to their religion by anything that has happened. I'm sure they would deny even if their priest was diddling someone right in front of them. To some it's all a test of their faith.
The Da Vinci Code
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yes I did: some interesting 'facts' ...Vesta said:
The Albigensian Crusade was a putative 'Holy War' waged upon the Cathars who were living in the Langdouc region of France. The French Royalty wanted their land and riches, so they lobbied the Pope to issue a Papal Bull calling the 'invasion' a Holy War and they were able to slaughter and steall 'without sin'! (this was important because the only time you could rape, pillage and kill was in a Holy War!)
Even more interesting, was the decision by a Pope to 'give' Ireland to King John so his sons would have some land of their own ... they invaded Ireland and claimed it as part of England!
Up until the 'Quiet Revolution' in Quebec, it was the Catholic Church whick 'owned' all the land and decided who could farm it, or own it or even open a business in Quebec. Its interesting that the RC Church was so effective in their propoganda that Quebecers still 'blame' the English for all their woes, when in fact it was the Church that determined every aspect of their lives.
It always has SS, it always has.shapeshifter said:,,,,, say what you will it all boils down to the almight $$$$BUCK$$$$$ in the end
"My dad writes a couple of lines, calls it a poem, and gets $50 for it!"
"My dad writes a few squiggles on lines, calls it a song, and gets $75 for it!"
"My dad reads a sermon from a pulpit, and it takes four deacons to collect the money!"
The Cathar heresy represented a great threat to Catholic orthodoxy and so the church was eager to wipe them out before those who believed in it spread their heretical views any further. Pope Innocent III called for a crusade against the Cathars (also called the Albigensians) and so while there's no question your statement about French royalty coveting the land and riches in the south of France is correct, the effort to destroy the heretics was more the doing of the church than of the nobility.LonelyGhost said:
Since not everyone in southern France was a Cathar at the time, it posed something of a moral dilemma for the invaders because there was no easy way of distinguishing who was and who wasn't a Cathar. That resulted in the famous line being uttered "kill them all and let God sort it out". Gotta love those religious zealots (of all eras of human history) and the even handed, balanced approach they bring to dealing with people who don't believe what they believe.
If I am ever back there, sure why not lol make some heads roll thats for sure *long story*TJ in the 'Peg said:My home theatre ????
hahha
I have one of those too.. but alas I am on a dinosaur of a computer and I dont have a dvd burnerIt is disturbing and annoying that the defenders of the catholic church turn a blind eye to all these terrible acts of the church. The Albigensian Crusade was against its own people! How many suffered at the hands of the Inquisition? Or were routinely tortured or executed for not conforming? Why did the church refuse to let the common people even read the bible? If I recall correctly, one of the crimes of Martin Luther was translating the bible from Latin, which was only understood by the upper classes, into the vulgate. Could they have something to hide that they killed to defend?JustAGuy said:Gotta love those religious zealots (of all eras of human history) and the even handed, balanced approach they bring to dealing with people who don't believe what they believe.
Religion is all about money and power. That's why the RCs and the JWs insist nobody but a church insider is capable of interperting the bible.westwoody said:
It's all about removing the marks money, keeping power over them and making sure the supply of marks is constant.
Could have been a freemason but christianity and masons are not campatible.superscrappydoo said:
Where did you hear this, LG?LonelyGhost said:
My grandfather literally owned a city, most of the lands within it, the waterworks, and the electrical utility, up until 1929 when he died, in the Charlevoix county, near Pointe-au-Pic. He was of Scottish extraction, was not a Catholic, but was for the most part, an un-practising Protestant, with an Atheist slant; in other words, the worst kind of heretic at the time. In fact, he was not held in very high esteem by the local Catholic parish because of his maverick ways, having built the first Protestant church, which still stands to this day. However, this posture did not affect his influence at every level of society, which he mostly was cynical with anyway. He was a fourth generation Canadian, whose first Canadian ancestor fought the Lafayette led American invasion at Quebec in the 1700s.
There are three architectural/historical books written about him in Quebec. He eventually willed his properties, including a very large resort hotel catering to vacationing Americans, like President Taft in the summer months, to his children, and all the ownership rights associated with any land he held were no different than what we have today.
Perhaps you meant the banks?
them too!Maury Beniowski said:Perhaps you meant the banks?
actually, i will have to dig a bit to find the reference (and then prove myself wrong, no doubt) but it seemed to suggest that if you could't afford to buy land, that you had to go to the RC church and make a request for property (?)
Fuckin Bible Thumpin' Bitches! Out there protesting a movie because they don't agree with the content.
Next think ya know the tree huggers will protest Tarzan because he mistreats trees by swinging on vines.
We live in a pissy little society. People will protest anything, just so they can feel like somebody, IF it makes an impact.
I think I'm going to protest a movie soon. I'm just not sure which one and on what terms.
Next think ya know the tree huggers will protest Tarzan because he mistreats trees by swinging on vines.
We live in a pissy little society. People will protest anything, just so they can feel like somebody, IF it makes an impact.
I think I'm going to protest a movie soon. I'm just not sure which one and on what terms.
The Catholic Church never likes anything that promotes people taking a closer look at the bibles logic. It doesn't stand up to close examination any more then the da Vinci Code does.
I read a lot of books but never was interested in reading this one. Saw the movie though but didn't understand why the Priory wanted to keep the whole thing a secret. Did they feel it was their job to help perpetrate the church's lie? If they wanted to protect Jesus' bloodline it would seem the safest way to do that would be to make it public. And whats the deal after 2000 years there's only 1 descendant left? There should be a hundred thousand they better get some jizz in that girl pronto.
