Telus Strike Goes On
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dumbasses
They are oh so overpaid for what they do - and yes, I know people in the union. The big beef is job guarantees - but not for them - they want to guarantee the jobs will never be sent overseas - fucking morons - IS anybody's job 100% safe? No, get a grip and join the world.
They are oh so overpaid for what they do - and yes, I know people in the union. The big beef is job guarantees - but not for them - they want to guarantee the jobs will never be sent overseas - fucking morons - IS anybody's job 100% safe? No, get a grip and join the world.
stupid union
Stupid unions again … Telus is operation in the privet sector so visa vie Telus has to compete …so if it cant compete ie its services get priced higher than what the market will bear, people lose jobs and companies go bankrupt. This union cant seem to see farther than its nose ...or past its own propaganda ...
And someone will pipe up about Telus profits well privet companies are suppose to make money for its owners its all about them putting with the risk.
The only way for an employee to ensure job security is go to work do a good job and make your self irreplaceable to your boss
BTW I am a member a big union, I have to be a member for the privilege of working.
Stupid unions again … Telus is operation in the privet sector so visa vie Telus has to compete …so if it cant compete ie its services get priced higher than what the market will bear, people lose jobs and companies go bankrupt. This union cant seem to see farther than its nose ...or past its own propaganda ...
And someone will pipe up about Telus profits well privet companies are suppose to make money for its owners its all about them putting with the risk.
The only way for an employee to ensure job security is go to work do a good job and make your self irreplaceable to your boss
BTW I am a member a big union, I have to be a member for the privilege of working.
Telus is only in second place. I can't remember the name of the first place phone provider. With all the consolidation going on in that oversupplied industry, it is only a matter of time before there is a merger.
Heck someone even wants to buy the 350 year old Hudson's Bay company. It is only worth $832 million. Is that all?
Heck someone even wants to buy the 350 year old Hudson's Bay company. It is only worth $832 million. Is that all?
Those are quite the statements. I have yet to meet someone who is "irreplacable". I've worked and met quite a few people in my life so far. You can be a great worker but irreplacable. The second problem I have is the fact that you're talking like that and a union member. How would you like your company to give you a take it or walk offer. All for corporate greed and outsourcing to India. Have to keep those shareholders happy. 
For the record I do not work in a union or for telus.
For the record I do not work in a union or for telus.
Up_My_Kilt said:
rambler6 said:Those are quite the statements. I have yet to meet someone who is "irreplacable". I've worked and met quite a few people in my life so far. You can be a great worker but irreplacable. The second problem I have is the fact that you're talking like that and a union member. How would you like your company to give you a take it or walk offer. All for corporate greed and outsourcing to India. Have to keep those shareholders happy.
For the record I do not work in a union or for telus.
I'll tell ya why big companies are outsourcing to India and the Philippines.
It’s ‘cause the work ethic of North Americans suck. The average worker is a lazy slob who thinks it’s ok to take sick days when they are not ill, check their email 67 times a day on company time, sit on the shitter for 30 minutes before their lunch break, so on a so forth. If an employer looks at an employee wrong they get sued up the ass and if some chick gets knocked up the company still have to keep her on the payroll. I don’t even want to go into all the fucking taxes. Employers are fed up with all this shit so they go looking in other countries for a better deal. Good on ‘em. Fuck ‘em.
Yet at the same time we have workers who are highly skilled, take pride in their work, and produce a product that can compete with world standards. If we 'fuck em' as you suggest, who will support the other aspects of our economy? Who will buy the houses, the cars, and all those wonderful gadgets that are the foundation of our economy? Shall we just sit here and buy foreign products with no money? Or should we just attempt to compete as best we can while still upholding a standard of living that allows us to continue purchasing our home-made products to ensure the continuation of our economy and society?mustangjoe said:
The problem with this strike as is the case with many other is that the Union (TWU) is operating in a vacuum. The single biggest source of revenue for most telecom. companies is long distance. With the abundance of VOIP in the form of net2phone, skype and thousands of others it has become impossible for Telus to continue to charge the per minute rates they have for LD calls since the competition is giving it away for free. If "the company" is not allowed to make changes necessary to stay competitive not only are a few going to lose their jobs but the majority of the employees.
The days of having the same job and being overpaid for it for 35 years are long gone, welcome to reality union cronies
The days of having the same job and being overpaid for it for 35 years are long gone, welcome to reality union cronies
True Muffman, but what's your point? You're starting to sound like my Grandfather, "back then we paid 5 cents for a loaf of bread". I'm not trying to be an idiot, but what's your point?muffman said:
Now! as for the other mindless idiocy on here, well?Well, as cruel as this sounds, I'm a capitalist. Don’t bet the farm on this, but with interest rate going up, and with close to 14,000 people on “union” pay (Alberta and BC) since July. It’s a just a matter of time before the market is flooded with property listing. This is a good excuse for some market correction as well.
Starting to see the market in the Burnaby area flat lining now, and starting to take a little dip as well……before, no house, no matter how bad the condition was (for a standard R2 house), would start at 400k, starting to see listing for under 400k now.
If the lock out continue past X-Mass, next year should look pretty good for investors.
Starting to see the market in the Burnaby area flat lining now, and starting to take a little dip as well……before, no house, no matter how bad the condition was (for a standard R2 house), would start at 400k, starting to see listing for under 400k now.
If the lock out continue past X-Mass, next year should look pretty good for investors.
fuckking right mustang
You said it mustang - lazyass pricks all want it for free....reap what you so you lazy bastards.
You said it mustang - lazyass pricks all want it for free....reap what you so you lazy bastards.
I see no evidence of RE prices going flat. If they are I would say it’s a result of market exhaustion, not interest rates (yet) or the Telus lockout. The fundamentals of RE investing are simply not here now so anyone who knows what they are doing are sitting on the sidelines. (or selling for profit taking) Inventory remains low but demand is dwindling. It was only 3 years ago that any smuck could buy any house anywhere in the lower mainland and create positive cash flow with little money down. ie 10% or less. Now rents are flat to negative with soaring RE prices. It now takes at least 35% down to just break even. Not many investors are capable or willing to do that.dick9994 said:
Rising interest rates will have an effect on the market, but give it a little more time.
Great Info
I dont know if this is possible but if anyone are interested here about real estate oppportunity --- lets keep this thread alive with up to date info.
I am too looking for the bubble to burst to buy into the market.
Right now I believe we are at the top and patience will be well rewared with great opportunity.
Michel
I dont know if this is possible but if anyone are interested here about real estate oppportunity --- lets keep this thread alive with up to date info.
I am too looking for the bubble to burst to buy into the market.
Right now I believe we are at the top and patience will be well rewared with great opportunity.
Michel
I thought that they were outsourcing because India and Philippines were cheap and spoke English. But still I get your point about lazy union workers. Many union workers would love to open the door at 8:59 AM when they see customers lined outside those Telus offices, but the union guys scream at them not to let the customers in. And to slam the door shut at say 5 PM, and turn away customers.
Its the wrong company and the wrong industry to be in a union.
Take a look Telus, its a stock company
This company is owned by stockholders. All which have seen the stock price rise to almost 100% return over last 12 months. Back to where it was prior to the last crash. Thats a Nasdaq syle stock, which is now only 50% of what the index was when telus bottomed at about $11. Stockholders have loved what telus has done and to tell ya, they want the union the fuck out. The largest problem is the outsourcing of jobs that Entwhistle knows he's paying a wild premium to keep within. These same jobs that the competitors have already sent out. He wants out of all that is not communications.
Why wash your own phones at $25 per hr plus benifits, pension, rent,and all of the expenses asso with running a business. The employees doing these jobs are the ones who will not be happy, cause telus can get the same service done in the outsource sector for way less.
This same thing applies in many areas of the company, vehicles, floors, bla bla.
In my opinion this union is done with Telus, or the other way around. The day the federal government steps in to the private sector over some trivial issue that a contract was voted no by some 50 or so votes, is a sad day for this country.
Now, whether you like telus or not is not an issue, this is about business. The competing companies pay huge dollars to telus for the use of the switches and lines and what have you. We all sit and complain about the service and cost we pay, now you have someone doing something about it.
If you want an overpaid do f-all job protected by unions, my suggestion is apply at the government either on a provincial or federal level.
I side with Telus and the stockholder on this. Those who wanted to work and negotiate a possible deal were given the chance to return, if ya didn't, you belong in a union, most likely wont be with Telus.
This company is owned by stockholders. All which have seen the stock price rise to almost 100% return over last 12 months. Back to where it was prior to the last crash. Thats a Nasdaq syle stock, which is now only 50% of what the index was when telus bottomed at about $11. Stockholders have loved what telus has done and to tell ya, they want the union the fuck out. The largest problem is the outsourcing of jobs that Entwhistle knows he's paying a wild premium to keep within. These same jobs that the competitors have already sent out. He wants out of all that is not communications.
Why wash your own phones at $25 per hr plus benifits, pension, rent,and all of the expenses asso with running a business. The employees doing these jobs are the ones who will not be happy, cause telus can get the same service done in the outsource sector for way less.
This same thing applies in many areas of the company, vehicles, floors, bla bla.
In my opinion this union is done with Telus, or the other way around. The day the federal government steps in to the private sector over some trivial issue that a contract was voted no by some 50 or so votes, is a sad day for this country.
Now, whether you like telus or not is not an issue, this is about business. The competing companies pay huge dollars to telus for the use of the switches and lines and what have you. We all sit and complain about the service and cost we pay, now you have someone doing something about it.
If you want an overpaid do f-all job protected by unions, my suggestion is apply at the government either on a provincial or federal level.
I side with Telus and the stockholder on this. Those who wanted to work and negotiate a possible deal were given the chance to return, if ya didn't, you belong in a union, most likely wont be with Telus.
I Hate unions,they served their purpose at one time many,many years ago ,but with all our bullshit govt legislation,we don't need them,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I hope to be looking at picking up a few forclosures in the next while
