taking advantage!!!

[azen]

this is not directed at anyone but the guilty party, k!!! i'd like to thank "terry" for taking advantage of a rushed moment for me. fyi...i rushed to make sure everything was perfect for your request of my time and company. this left me a little absent minded to my needs when given little time to prepare a place and environment to fulfill your needs for requested stress relief. my donation pays my bills and was to be used to find my own private digs....thank u for noticing that i wasn't paying attention when u took my time, took advantage of me, then left without fulfilling your obligations...as a reg i did not feel this was an issue i had to question. i thank u for this expensive lesson though. u r such a great teacher!!!!! pls don't ring me again ever!!! can't afford any more lessons!!!
mia/azen

 

[OralRay]

Mia/Azen,

Did he knowingly exit without leaving a donation ?
If so, and he hasn't made any effort to fix the situation then that Sucks.

A couple of times I've has sessions where because we where having so much fun or got talking about some subject that time just flew by and overstayed the time schedule. In the rush to get dressed and leave so that she could get ready for her next appointment, both of us forgot about the donation untill we were at the door. (Actually, one time I was back at my car when I remembered and had to 'Buzz' her number to let me back in).

Some of the younger guys here may be saying (You OLd Fool!! ), but I've always payed my debts. ...especially after having an enjoyable encounter. Would you like to be the next client after a SP has been ripped off, is pissed off, and you want some nice GFE ? Good luck !!

It's BullS%&t actions like not paying or slipping fake bills into an envelope that turns a friendy SP into a callous bitch very quickly.

just my $.02

 

[azen]

exactly!!! didn't make an effort...took it! i now understand why he looked so nervous by the elevator!!!

 

[Dogster]

this is not directed at anyone but the guilty party, k!!! i'd like to thank "terry" .DIRTBAG.

 

[bigdman]

looks like mia/azen can see whoever's in the elevator...

 

[wilde]

Mia you should warn other SPs on this board about this guy.

 

[azen]

the elevator is right outside my door, it's called a peep hole in the door. most apt doors have them. like to check and make sure no one is in the hallway, alright. nit picky bout what is written. that wasn't the point, and a subtle attempt at distracting from the main point of my words!! hmmmm
azen

 

[Calgary69]

In the words of Forrest Gump paraphrased.....

Stupid is what stupid does.

 

[BOBST]

Mia

I am sorry for your loss, but thank-you for bringing up this topic , I have been curious about this for a long time!

I have been in this "hobby" a long time and I found over the years that most of my regular sp's never ask donations up front because they know me. I agree with OralRay that sometimes because of time or "passion" that donations get forgotten.

I had one session where I shorted a lady and did not even know it till three day's later, when I phoned her she replied that she did not know untill I brought it up. (I did send a cheque in the mail and yes it got there and was good)

What I am trying to say is that even though I am a regular client I do not mind being asked up front as long as I know that I will be getting good service.

This bussiness is hard enough for you sp's as it is and you should not have to worry about JERK'S who think they can get away with being cheap! Post the Guy's name!

I might be new to the Board but not the "hobby"

 

[Fudd]

Sad to hear mia. I've been stiffed on one occasion in my consulting work. Really sucks.

However, give him a chance to make right he may have honestly forgotten and is too embarissed to see you. Or as you said he is a regular and planned to correct things when he sees you again. On the other hand he may just be a dishonorable prick in which case just warn others so they don't get stiffed.

I believe the girls should be properly compensated when they provide their services. Just being honest in this hobby would make things much easier.

 

[hitrack]

What I am trying to say is that even though I am a regular client I do not mind being asked up front as long as I know that I will be getting good service.

It's been my experience that 99% of the time the donation is the 1st thing taken care of.

 

[LonelyGhost]

this keeps coming up (among other things)

but I, for one, prefer to pay up front, in cash -- no stupid frilly envelope -- and expect and demand the sp count the cash before it disappears. that way, no q's about how much and which currency and is it short etc.

i had one young sp take the cash, count it and hand it back ... twice ... but otherwise ok.

the worst was seeing one of the top 'indies' who never, in 2 1/2 hours (we went way over time) asked for the donation ... it made me nervous and uncomfortable and i should have just paid up front and shattered the GFE illusion for 2 minutes and relax about it ... did finally pay and she just tossed it on the bed, uncounted ...

argh!

 

[RaeAnn]

Lonelyghost, Are you in Calgary? LOL

I never ask for a cent. Some gentlemen put it down up front and others after. If they start talking about it at the beginning I just say don't worry about that stuff now. Really makes no difference to me. I have never been taken...yet! I don't count it either, actually I never touch it. The LE issues out here are SPOOKY! If you know what I mean.
It works for me, and I have never had a complaint about it from a gentlemen. A good point you bring up though. I never thought about it in those terms.

Regards,
RaeAnn

 

[bigdman]

It's been my experience that 99% of the time the donation is the 1st thing taken care of.

I think that is most of the cases..., but sometimes..., my regular SP's would just take it after the sessions..., its called making the session more enjoyable without seeing the money exchange part...first. I tend to agree with that...., but again, if things like that happened, then, it would be safer for the SP's to receive the donation up front before any action...

 

[envykitty]

Hey BOBST don't you think the MOD would have a problem with us posting names of cheap dates? After all they have a problem with us posting numbers of repetitive prank callers so maybe info about cheap dates "doesn't belong in the perb" either!

 

[bigdman]

envykitty,

Please clean out your pm box...its full...thanks

 

[bigdman]

If MOD does not want us to post any names..., maybe another solution for the ladies is they can exchange pm with each other for the name of that person. Then the name thing would never have to surface on the board...

agree, Mod?

 

[Massagegirl]

I always ask for the cash up front so it isn't forgotten later, to save us both the trouble. I have not collected up front from people who stripped down 2 seconds after entering but then I had to remember to ask later, and when I have forgotten they always remember before leaving or returned to pay me.

Once I had left a guys change on the table and he wanted extra time so we made a deal for that change X amount of time. Well, when I went to get a hot towel he was already dressing and had taken the money that was left on the table, and I couldn't believe it! I just said "hey, that was my money" and he mumbled about lunch money amd I said "just don't ever come back here". It was a pittance, like $15 so what a shmoo! Good riddance to bad rubbish and the lesson only cost $15.

I just to remind girls that it can happen, and with a much larger amount, so there is no offense to asking up front and going to put it away while the client gets undressed and comfortable!

 

[oppai]

This shouldn't even be a discussion. it shouldn't matter when we pay, it should be a given that we are paying for the services that are provided. I have had many chances where I could have easily departed without paying, but why would I? i respect the ladies I've seen and understand their purpose for being in this business. so I pay them. That someone would NOT pay, especially as a regular is terrible. Not only is it cheap and disrespectful but it ruins the trust that Mia would otherwise have in other regulars. This person has now ruined what would be a more trusting relationship between Mia and her clients. I hate to see this happen because it ruins it for the rest of us. I'm not surprised though as I've noticed a lot of comments on here (PERB in general) that leans towards that kind of behaviour. Best of luck in the future Mia and I hope this doesn't get you too down.