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Herb_The_Perb

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Last night I saw a not-that-old SW on Hastings in Vancouver with some missing front teeth.

Is this caused by crack addiction, or something else?
Exactly how does that unfortunate process take place -- does the addictive subsatnce dissolve calcium in the teeth or jaws?
 
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TantheMan

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Crack when smoked does a few things to your teeth, you are essentially cooking them from the heat (short glass tube, brillo, flame) and you are also coating your teeth with resin (coke vs crack is all about acids and bases - gr8 chem) however not only resin but often the ammonia you used to cook it with gets inhaled.
Also when addicted - dental hygene takes a major back seat to the getting, smoking and planning on getting of crack.
Lost teeth also happen when you do something foolish when high (like rip off the wrong person or lie) and get beatup afterwords for it.
Or when you get too high too fast and do the funky chicken and whack your head on something. Or being desperate or having bad judgement and taking on the wrong "date"
I am clean and sober many years now - took 5 years of dental repairs :eek: - never lost a tooth though many a friend did.
What a f'ing hell active addiction was.
 

hitrack

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Tan-man that was a worthy post.

I dun wanna sound like a pussy but I am the virgin marry when it comes to drugs. I tried a few joints and found the smell to be rather unpleasant and as far as residual odor goes it is cigarettes x50 to get the smell to dissipate.

Plus my mind has to stay razor sharp to keep one eye open for cops and the other on the speedo to bust outta the Dee's Tunnel at 3am doing about a buck-80.
 

muffdiver

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Tantheman, thanks for sharing, good of you to get off that crap, i myself am proud that i never got into anything other than the odd joint now and then, even with all the peer pressure when i was growing up. I seen too many friends mess up their lives.


On a lighter note, a toothless sw would probably give a pretty good bj, no teeth scraping if ya know what i mean.
 

BOBST

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tantheman; Good for you to get off! I know what you are going on about it is a life long curse for some of us! (I will be celebrating 5 years clean this year)

muffdiver; on the lighter note I know an sp who takes her teeth out if you ask!
interested?
 

Bull

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muffdiver said:
On a lighter note, a toothless sw would probably give a pretty good bj, no teeth scraping if ya know what i mean.
BOBST said:
muffdiver; on the lighter note I know an sp who takes her teeth out if you ask! interested?
Gentlemen:
Its not all that great..... :eek: :rolleyes: :eek:

 

PinkLady

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Early good habits.

I've got excellent teeth and lips. I feel sorry for the ladies who didn't have a dental plan while growing up. That's probably a bigger cause of the poor teeth, than a crack addition. By the time that crack is involved, it is pretty much over. :(
 

BOBST

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PinkLady said:
I've got excellent teeth and lips. I feel sorry for the ladies who didn't have a dental plan while growing up. That's probably a bigger cause of the poor teeth, than a crack addition. By the time that crack is involved, it is pretty much over. :(
PinkLady; Please do not get me wrong!!! I was in no way poking fun at any lady, I myself lost my teeth due to unfortunate reason's and it is sometimes easier to make jokes than talk about it!!!
 

momlover

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Herb_The_Perb said:
Last night I saw a not-that-old SW on Hastings in Vancouver with some missing front teeth.

Is this caused by crack addiction, or something else?
Exactly how does that unfortunate process take place -- does the addictive subsatnce dissolve calcium in the teeth or jaws?
Herb, was that woman a petite red head around 50 by the name of Cat? That's my girlfriend, and this year is our 10th aniversary. When I met her she had perfect teeth, then slowly over the years they started to fall out. We have a on again off again relationship - it's off for now -

If it is her, treat her well ok? Perhaps Lisa has seen her at WISH, if you do Lisa PM me please.
 

Herb_The_Perb

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momlover said:
Herb, was that woman a petite red head around 50 by the name of Cat? That's my girlfriend, and this year is our 10th aniversary. When I met her she had perfect teeth, then slowly over the years they started to fall out. We have a on again off again relationship - it's off for now -

If it is her, treat her well ok? Perhaps Lisa has seen her at WISH, if you do Lisa PM me please.
No, this was a regular sized brunette arounf 30-35. And I saw her on the street, but decided not to see her, if you know what I mean.
 

crackhead

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addendum to tan's description

Tan the Man's description is correct, though there's one more bit to add: killer cottonmouth. Smoking rock dries out the saliva, which is necessary to healthy teeth and gums. Without much protection, the degradation is incredibly rapid.

Even occasional (eg, once-a-month) rock users need to practice exceptionally good oral hygene just to keep healthy Ph. As Tan observed, few (if any) daily crack users are sufficiently concerned about their health.

Let my add my applause for Tan and anyone else with clean time. (I'm still in denial myself, still arguing that as long as I keep to my one night a month rule, I'm in control.)

-- Crackhead
 

Hennesy

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Losing Teeth Latest Meth Use Side Effect



MARYVILLE, Mo. (AP) - Jeffery Lotshaw flossed regularly. He brushed faithfully, sometimes four or five times in a day.

All that care makes his condition seem incomprehensible - at the age of just 33, Lotshaw's grin is toothless. His teeth all broke apart, tarnished with yellow and black.

``Before I started doing meth, I didn't have a cavity in my head,'' said Lotshaw, imprisoned on drug charges at Missouri's Maryville Treatment Center.

The growing use of highly addictive methamphetamine throughout the country is creating a prominent scar on an increasing number of users - rotting, brittle teeth that seem to crumble from their mouths.

Methamphetamine can be made with a horrid mix of substances, including over-the-counter cold medicine, fertilizer, battery acid and hydrogen peroxide.

Together, the chemicals reduce a user's saliva, which neutralizes acids and physically clears food from the teeth, said Dr. Eric Curtis, an Arizona-based spokesman for the Academy of General Dentistry.

``When the saliva isn't flowing, the bacteria build up a lot faster,'' said Dr. Darrell Morton, an Atlanta dentist.


Meth users also may neglect their teeth, or moisten their dry mouths with high-sugar drinks, and anxiety caused by the drug prompts them to grind their teeth, which speeds decay.

The problem is particularly noticeable among inmates, whose oral problems have some prison systems struggling to provide dental care.

``They're rotting teeth, missing teeth, rotting way into the gums,'' said Kathy Bachmeier, the head of medical services for North Dakota's prisons. ``It's ugly.''

There are no statistics on ``meth mouth'' - as the condition has come to be known - because addicts are sometimes reluctant to admit their drug use and because it is difficult to distinguish between damage done by bad dental hygiene and that caused by narcotics. But there are signs it is on the rise around the country.

The head of the company in charge of dental care for Missouri inmates says he is seeing teeth rotted by meth use nearly every day. In North Dakota, the number of days a dentist was serving inmates jumped from 50 in 2000 to 78 in 2004. And the tab for inmates' dental care in Minnesota rose from $1.2 million five years ago to about $2 million last year.

``There are more and more urgent care needs, which pushes back routine care like cleanings,'' said Nanette Schroeder, director of health services for Minnesota's Corrections Department. ``They're seeing just worse mouths, generally. This is really an emerging problem.''

Missouri pays a company $7.50 per day per prisoner for health care, regardless of what's needed, so no major cost increase has been incurred.

``My dentists always opt for the best treatment we could offer our patients, as we would in private practice,'' said Dr. Ernest Jackson, whose Jefferson City-based company is in charge of dental care for Missouri prisons.

But that philosophy isn't necessarily at play everywhere.

Schroeder said there's a constant juggling act between constitutional obligations to inmates, costs and the risk of lawsuits.

``Do we always think that it's fair to provide some services to our offender population that people on the outside might not get? Of course not,'' Schroeder said. ``On the other hand, we have to balance that with the risk.''

Bryan Rogers, another inmate at the Maryville facility, which is exclusively for convicts with drug problems, said he noticed other users' teeth were rotting but made sure he brushed regularly.

``I was always thinking that's not going to happen to me because I keep brushing,'' he said.

Rogers, 30, has had three teeth pulled since arriving at the prison in August, and he's awaiting a dental plate. Lotshaw's last 11 teeth have been removed since arriving, also in August, and he's waiting for dentures.

Lotshaw has been drug-free for more than five months, but there's no denying what is to blame for his empty mouth.

``It reminds me a lot of my addiction,'' he said.
 
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