Switching to Organic
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I must agree... Couldn't have put it better. Our society still hasn't matured to accepting the very real notion that there are two kinds of environmentalists, good ones and bad ones. Thank heaven there are some sceptics among us...
I believe the following is a link to the study which was published in the Journal "Science".Outkoast said:
http://www.albany.edu/ihe/salmonstudy/
The cafeterias at the corporation where I work switched over a year or so ago from farmed to wild salmon, and they published an advisory explaining their decision.
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Organic used to mean no not-naturally-occurring-in-that-place additives. Once it became valuable for marketing, it got "defined". As usual, it got "defined" differently so companies coul dmake money. So what is not "organic" is not necessarily healthy for people or the environment. Sometimes a farmer can use tons of chemicals one year, and then "switch crops" and not use chemicals the next year, and be allowed to put "organic" on his labels. Of course he poisons the environment, and of course the chemicals are still in the soil, etc. Does her deserve to get that extra profit fromyour organic purchasing?
But you can still stick to the original idea, if you ask the right questions. Unfortunately in BC you will get disgusted as you discover all the "cheating" (it's not really cheating... it's just deceiving and greedy maybe?)
Don't ask if it's "organic" and don't pay extra for "organic". Ask if it is farmed with pesticides or fertilizers, where it is grown (not packaged, but grown) and who owns the farm (not it's name, but who owns it). By asking you are making a difference even when they lie to you and cheat you anyway.
Organic used to mean no not-naturally-occurring-in-that-place additives. Once it became valuable for marketing, it got "defined". As usual, it got "defined" differently so companies coul dmake money. So what is not "organic" is not necessarily healthy for people or the environment. Sometimes a farmer can use tons of chemicals one year, and then "switch crops" and not use chemicals the next year, and be allowed to put "organic" on his labels. Of course he poisons the environment, and of course the chemicals are still in the soil, etc. Does her deserve to get that extra profit fromyour organic purchasing?
But you can still stick to the original idea, if you ask the right questions. Unfortunately in BC you will get disgusted as you discover all the "cheating" (it's not really cheating... it's just deceiving and greedy maybe?)
Don't ask if it's "organic" and don't pay extra for "organic". Ask if it is farmed with pesticides or fertilizers, where it is grown (not packaged, but grown) and who owns the farm (not it's name, but who owns it). By asking you are making a difference even when they lie to you and cheat you anyway.
I try to stick to organic produce. You can tell the difference in taste with produce that had been genetically engineered or sprayed with pesticides vs. ones that were organically grown. As for meats and fish, wild free range is better but only if it's on sale.
What the fuck is the other produce? Inorganic? I know a guy in Victoria who has a few stores on the island...won't name the chain. The get carrots from SAME location and the "organic" ones get a higher price and are not pre-packaged. He has visited the source and they use identical growing practices EXCEPT they are in a different part of the plot. IDENTICAL.Creole Lady Marmalade said:
There is one born every minute....
Malthus
Don't sweat it fuzzknuckles - as Thomas malthus has predicted, there will be rampant starvation and disease that will kick the population back a few notches before it gets to a ridiculous level.
Or read up on Garret Hardin and the lifeboat theory.
Don't sweat it fuzzknuckles - as Thomas malthus has predicted, there will be rampant starvation and disease that will kick the population back a few notches before it gets to a ridiculous level.
Or read up on Garret Hardin and the lifeboat theory.
Malthus' theories are interesting, but still simply theories. But who knows. Perhaps the Chinese are smarter than the rest of us?Ilovethemall said:
"Organic eggs are farmed on larger plots of land which hundreds
of chickens are free to roam. It may be more expensive to
produce eggs like that, but Passmore says consumers can
make it easier on ethics-conscious farmers by demanding cer-
tified organic eggs." {24, Sept.7, p.5}.
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of chickens are free to roam. It may be more expensive to
produce eggs like that, but Passmore says consumers can
make it easier on ethics-conscious farmers by demanding cer-
tified organic eggs." {24, Sept.7, p.5}.
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Top 10 Reasons to Buy Organic Foods (Taken from the Encyclopedia of Natural Healing)
1) Organic food tastes better. Produce is nourished by mineral-rich soul, picked with care when ready and packed by people who are concerned with taste, quality and health.
2) With organic food, you get more nutrition for your money. Conventional food costs somewhat less, but has much less nutritional value. Organic food is produced from soil that has been enriched with natural compost ahd has high levels of nutrients and trace minerals.
3) Conventional food has many hidden costs that are not reflected in the price, including costs for environmental clean-ups, pesticide and fertilizer regulation and subsidies to conventional farms. The cost of care for people who develop diseases because of pesticide ingestion is not directly reflected in the price of conventional food, and neither is the cost of pollution and global climate change from the emissions of vehicles and machinery used to apply pesticides and fertilizers.
Sidenote: Did you know that pesticide companies like del santo fund universities to genetically manufacture plants that can hold more pesticide just so they can sell more pesticide? grrr.
4) Organic food reduces your intake of harmful chemicals and lowers your risk of getting various cancers and other illnesses. Children especially benefit from eating organic food because their immune system are weaker than those of adults.
5) You support your smaller, local famers by purchasing their organic food. These organic farmers are your neighbors and are concerned about the health of the community. Big agri-business is more concerned with their profits than with community health.
6) You protect farm workers from the cumulative, toxic effects of pesticides and chemical fertilizers by purchasing organic food.
7) Organic farmers help to ensure a sustainable agriculture for future generations by increasing the soils natural vitality and mineral content.
8) Buying organic food protects the quality of our waters. Hundreds of tons of harmful pesticides and fertilizers are washed into our rivers, lakes and oceans every year, polluting our drinking water and killing fish and wildlife.
9) Organic farmers help restore biodiversity because they use natural crop diversification. Conventional farmers use harmful monoculture and harsh chemicals to produce large quantities of a single crop.
10) Conventional farmers sometimes produce food that has been manupulated genetically, changing the essential nature of the food. Organic farmers believe that the natural state of the food is the best for health, and reject genetic manipulation as dangerous and harmful.
1) Organic food tastes better. Produce is nourished by mineral-rich soul, picked with care when ready and packed by people who are concerned with taste, quality and health.
2) With organic food, you get more nutrition for your money. Conventional food costs somewhat less, but has much less nutritional value. Organic food is produced from soil that has been enriched with natural compost ahd has high levels of nutrients and trace minerals.
3) Conventional food has many hidden costs that are not reflected in the price, including costs for environmental clean-ups, pesticide and fertilizer regulation and subsidies to conventional farms. The cost of care for people who develop diseases because of pesticide ingestion is not directly reflected in the price of conventional food, and neither is the cost of pollution and global climate change from the emissions of vehicles and machinery used to apply pesticides and fertilizers.
Sidenote: Did you know that pesticide companies like del santo fund universities to genetically manufacture plants that can hold more pesticide just so they can sell more pesticide? grrr.
4) Organic food reduces your intake of harmful chemicals and lowers your risk of getting various cancers and other illnesses. Children especially benefit from eating organic food because their immune system are weaker than those of adults.
5) You support your smaller, local famers by purchasing their organic food. These organic farmers are your neighbors and are concerned about the health of the community. Big agri-business is more concerned with their profits than with community health.
6) You protect farm workers from the cumulative, toxic effects of pesticides and chemical fertilizers by purchasing organic food.
7) Organic farmers help to ensure a sustainable agriculture for future generations by increasing the soils natural vitality and mineral content.
8) Buying organic food protects the quality of our waters. Hundreds of tons of harmful pesticides and fertilizers are washed into our rivers, lakes and oceans every year, polluting our drinking water and killing fish and wildlife.
9) Organic farmers help restore biodiversity because they use natural crop diversification. Conventional farmers use harmful monoculture and harsh chemicals to produce large quantities of a single crop.
10) Conventional farmers sometimes produce food that has been manupulated genetically, changing the essential nature of the food. Organic farmers believe that the natural state of the food is the best for health, and reject genetic manipulation as dangerous and harmful.
Do you Know what is in MSG and where it comes from?
MSG is one of the most misinterpreted and misunderstood food additive of the modern times. Consumed annually by the tons in the Orient MSG is derived from either beets or seaweed. It is a flavour enhancer and a salt (hence the Mono-Sodium) and does have an effect on certain members of the non-oriental population know as the Chinese Restaurant Syndrome. It is harmless when used in moderation although Caucasian and some Negroid persons do experience bloating and puffiness when exposed to too much.
CBC radio one had a full show on this a few years ago and my girlfriend at the time who was going to commit me for having a jar in the spice cabinet forgave me for being such an ill-informed bimbo and gave me great sex on the kitchen floor.
Also got FDA and Mono-sodium Glutamate or Just type in MSG Facts.
MSG is one of the most misinterpreted and misunderstood food additive of the modern times. Consumed annually by the tons in the Orient MSG is derived from either beets or seaweed. It is a flavour enhancer and a salt (hence the Mono-Sodium) and does have an effect on certain members of the non-oriental population know as the Chinese Restaurant Syndrome. It is harmless when used in moderation although Caucasian and some Negroid persons do experience bloating and puffiness when exposed to too much.
CBC radio one had a full show on this a few years ago and my girlfriend at the time who was going to commit me for having a jar in the spice cabinet forgave me for being such an ill-informed bimbo and gave me great sex on the kitchen floor.
Also got FDA and Mono-sodium Glutamate or Just type in MSG Facts.
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I would like to know who watched an egg being laid and said ""by gawd, that looks good enough to eat!"lenny said:
Someone who was really, really hungry. Maybe it was a beer bet?Teal said:I would like to know who watched an egg being laid and said ""by gawd, that looks good enough to eat!"
Probably related to the person who discovered yogurt.
good one
what I am more inclined to support is being against GMF according to a statistic I recently heard, 80% of fast food contains GMF because of the canola oil in it. Now from an environmental stand point I am also inclined to eat food from an organic seed rather than a hybrid for the sole reason that it guarantees a reliable perrenial versus an annual hybrid. I believe our longterm food source is in jeopardy. We are losing diversity at an unbelievably rapid pace in this modern world because of the greed to produce more abundant crops.
save a cow, eat a pussy, gina
'organic' produce can still contain fertilizers/pesticides, check the guidelines for what is considered 'organic' practices.Teal said:I would like to know who watched an egg being laid and said ""by gawd, that looks good enough to eat!"
what I am more inclined to support is being against GMF according to a statistic I recently heard, 80% of fast food contains GMF because of the canola oil in it. Now from an environmental stand point I am also inclined to eat food from an organic seed rather than a hybrid for the sole reason that it guarantees a reliable perrenial versus an annual hybrid. I believe our longterm food source is in jeopardy. We are losing diversity at an unbelievably rapid pace in this modern world because of the greed to produce more abundant crops.
save a cow, eat a pussy, gina
If you're needing another reason to go organic, check out a book called "Fast Food Nation" by Eric Schlosser. CJSW(the campus radio here in Calgary) ran a talk he gave in Colorado today, and when you read how the food industry is run today you may never eat in a fast food restaurant ever again.
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