Remember reading a while back that swallowing is riskier than spitting. I don't understand how that could be so. Wouldn't enzymes and acids in the digestive tract kill anything nasty, thereby making the only risk the mouth?
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When you swallow you can take in germs, & things, e.g. worm in an apple,Cock Throppled said:
HIV in cum.
When you spit, you can spit out germs, & things, e.g. saliva, cum, worms,
HIV in cum.
contradiction???????logsplitter said:
how to tell you where the difference is ...... I will try a direct approach ....
usually pooners do not see 2-3 girls a day.... some girls see this many or more guys a day .... do I have to make my point more clear?
few hours in between? ... yeh ... right .... especially at MP.. when you sit and wait in the waitng room ..... RRRRRRRRRRRIGHT
I think the rationale that spitting is more dangerous than swallowing was that any abrasions in the mouth that would lead to openings by which a virus would enter the blood stream usually occur at the front of the teeth (or the sides), presumably from chewing or brushing.
HIV is highly "unstable" - that is, can not live long outside an optimal host. I read somewhere that saliva kills the virus, but don't use what I say to decide on possible courses of action. I do know that HIV can only live within a limited range of temperatures, which may account as to why some SPs hold copious amounts of very hot water when giving you a bbbj. Again, I am no expert on this by any means.... I've just done a fair bit of reading. Don't take what I say as anything but unsound and improperly researched info.
HIV is highly "unstable" - that is, can not live long outside an optimal host. I read somewhere that saliva kills the virus, but don't use what I say to decide on possible courses of action. I do know that HIV can only live within a limited range of temperatures, which may account as to why some SPs hold copious amounts of very hot water when giving you a bbbj. Again, I am no expert on this by any means.... I've just done a fair bit of reading. Don't take what I say as anything but unsound and improperly researched info.
Cock Throppled said:
Contact with saliva, tears, sweat, feces or urine
Transmission can only occur when a sufficient amount of HIV enters the bloodstream, through cuts or mucous membranes. These "bodily fluids" either contain no HIV or it exists in a quantity too small to result in transmission.
HIV is not transmitted by saliva. There is a great deal of evidence to support this fact. In a study of 79 men with AIDS, the virus could be found in the saliva of only one. This man had PCP, thrush, and other mouth and throat lesions. Even in this man, the level of virus found in his saliva was 10,000 times less than the level in his blood. To this study we can add the evidence of the countless numbers of people who have had saliva contact with people with AIDS or others who have been infected. This contact has occurred through kissing, sharing food, sharing joints, and many other means. We can find no evidence that these activities have transmitted the virus even a single time. Recent findings suggest that saliva contains an enzyme which kills HIV. Certainly there is a lot at work in the mouth combining to make the mouth an inhospitable site for the virus: acids, enzymes, friction, dilution, air, and more.
What Annalise said, would you want to stick your cock in someones mouth and after she's seen a few before you?
Too much talk about the possibility of transmission, I think it's way better to cut down as many risks and methods of possible transmission as much as possible instead of just weeding out those by appearance alone.
Too much talk about the possibility of transmission, I think it's way better to cut down as many risks and methods of possible transmission as much as possible instead of just weeding out those by appearance alone.
There is always the contradiction. The ladies enjoy getting datty and sharing their juices, rarely asking who you licked last, but when it comes to mutual there is most often negative things about the guys cum that the ladies seem to think about. I would think that a good gargle and a few hours in between should clear the throat of all the nasties and even make them kissable!
How much scientific/medical evidence is necessary? See Below.
HIV and saliva
An article from "The Molecules of HIV" (c) Dan Stowell
www.mcld.co.uk/hiv
Occasionally I'm asked about whether HIV is present in an HIV-positive person's saliva, and whether it carries a risk of transmission.
The short answer is that saliva virtually never carries any infectious HIV at all.
It does carry detectable "components" of HIV (such as viral RNA and proviral DNA), but these are not infectious on their own. The environment that saliva provides is far too harsh for infectious particles to remain intact and viable.
There are a number of possible mechanisms that have been suggested, which might explain why saliva seems to be so good at destroying HIV. Specific enzymes present in saliva may be important, or the effect of antibodies in saliva. Additionally, the saliva is "hypotonic" and has a tendency to disrupt any cells which may be floating around in it. It's pretty much certain that it's the combination of these factors that mean HIV is not transmitted in saliva.
It may seem strange that such a dangerous virus can't survive in something as "harmless" as saliva. In fact, saliva is a part of the body's natural defences against infection. Additionally, remember that the HIV virus is actually quite fragile.
More information:
* Shugars DC, Sweet SP, Malamud D, Kazmi S, Page-Shafer K, Challacombe SJ (2002)
Saliva and inhibition of HIV-1 infection: molecular mechanisms. Oral Diseases 8: 169-175 Suppl. 2 2002
* Baron S, Poast J, Cloyd MW (1999)
Why is HIV rarely transmitted by oral secretions? Saliva can disrupt orally shed, infected leukocytes. Archives of Internal Medicine 159 (3): 303-310
HIV and saliva
An article from "The Molecules of HIV" (c) Dan Stowell
www.mcld.co.uk/hiv
Occasionally I'm asked about whether HIV is present in an HIV-positive person's saliva, and whether it carries a risk of transmission.
The short answer is that saliva virtually never carries any infectious HIV at all.
It does carry detectable "components" of HIV (such as viral RNA and proviral DNA), but these are not infectious on their own. The environment that saliva provides is far too harsh for infectious particles to remain intact and viable.
There are a number of possible mechanisms that have been suggested, which might explain why saliva seems to be so good at destroying HIV. Specific enzymes present in saliva may be important, or the effect of antibodies in saliva. Additionally, the saliva is "hypotonic" and has a tendency to disrupt any cells which may be floating around in it. It's pretty much certain that it's the combination of these factors that mean HIV is not transmitted in saliva.
It may seem strange that such a dangerous virus can't survive in something as "harmless" as saliva. In fact, saliva is a part of the body's natural defences against infection. Additionally, remember that the HIV virus is actually quite fragile.
More information:
* Shugars DC, Sweet SP, Malamud D, Kazmi S, Page-Shafer K, Challacombe SJ (2002)
Saliva and inhibition of HIV-1 infection: molecular mechanisms. Oral Diseases 8: 169-175 Suppl. 2 2002
* Baron S, Poast J, Cloyd MW (1999)
Why is HIV rarely transmitted by oral secretions? Saliva can disrupt orally shed, infected leukocytes. Archives of Internal Medicine 159 (3): 303-310
Not wanting to have misrepresented my preferences I would rather not cum in a ladies mouth. I like to be burried deep in a pussy with my balls bouncing on the ladies clit when I cum into the raincoat. What I posted has more to do with oral play mutual which I enjoy a lot more with the hat off than with the hat on!Annalise Lane said:
HIV+: The Big Boogey Man...
HIV/AIDS should be the least of your worries. Herpes is now prevalent in almost 25% of the population at large, and its rate of transmission continues to rise. Because one can live to a ripe old age with Herpes, it is generally dismissed out of hand, and not given the attention it warrants in the media. Then again, retroviral cocktails have made AIDS a more manageable condition, and promising treatments that target dormant cells are on the horizon that should virtually eradicate it (99.999% - a statistical zero; one can never attain absolute certainty with the human body). Herpes is much easier to contract, is not curable and will follow you to the grave with recurrent and annoying outburts inviting other life threatening conditions into your body as your immune sytem deteriorates due to advancing age.
HIV/AIDS should be the least of your worries. Herpes is now prevalent in almost 25% of the population at large, and its rate of transmission continues to rise. Because one can live to a ripe old age with Herpes, it is generally dismissed out of hand, and not given the attention it warrants in the media. Then again, retroviral cocktails have made AIDS a more manageable condition, and promising treatments that target dormant cells are on the horizon that should virtually eradicate it (99.999% - a statistical zero; one can never attain absolute certainty with the human body). Herpes is much easier to contract, is not curable and will follow you to the grave with recurrent and annoying outburts inviting other life threatening conditions into your body as your immune sytem deteriorates due to advancing age.
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I'm happy to see that you've also done the research. I've discusssed the issue with four medical professionals (including a family member) and they initially give me the standard line. After I communicate my knowledge (medical journals) on the matter they have all conceded that HIV 'is very difficult to contract' and that it cannot be transmitted though saliva.zoe_zee said:
I was thinking more of things other than HIV, too. What about clap, chlamydia, herpes, NSU, NGU, the flu etc etc? Are all these risky because of bbbj or because of swallowing?Maury Beniowski said:
