Suspected Madam Arrested

[dunda]

Suspected Madam Arrested
Feb, 15 2007 - 12:30 PM


VANCOUVER - Vancouver Police and Richmond RCMP worked together to bust a woman they are calling the region's number one madam.
Her name is "Pinky" Zhe Nai Xu.
She is facing seven charges related to keeping a common bawdy house.
When the Williams Road house in Richmond was raided last Thursday, 15 people were arrested.

 

[PerazziDave]

Raid

I heard about this raid last week on Rock 101. All that was said was 7 ladies and 7 guys were arrested. I was surprised not to hear about it in the lounge until now.
On another note, I was looking at Craigslist for Bellingham and I see there is a warning to guys about Police picking up a provider in Bellingham, they made an appointment and picked up her and the driver. Stay safe and be careful everyone.

PD

 

[wilde]

“Most of them don’t know that they’re being brought here, not to work as domestics, but to work as prostitutes. It’s an issue that we’re well aware of.”

That may be true






about 10 years ago.

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[georgebushmoron]

If convicted of the procurement charge or living off the avails of prostitution, Xu faces a jail term of up to 10 years. If convicted of keeping a common bawdy house, Xu faces up to two years in prison.

That's some serious time. The procurement conviction would be an indictment. The common bawdy house one is probably a summary offense. She's lucky she didn't get human trafficking charges, which by the way it is defined, they'd try to make it fit if they could. Not too long ago an MP owner got nailed with that, and when I read about the circumstances of it, it appeared to me that they used the widest possible definition to nail him.

Interestingly, when you go to Canadian Customs off a plane at about 12 noon, Korean Airlines is usually also scheduled to arrive. If you say you're here on business, you immediately get sent to a line to explain to a Customs official about it. You'll see a long column of Korean women applying for work visas, along with the usual sniffling and tears as they're being questioned: "you want to come here to do what?", "you have a university education?", "you have no employer here ready to hire you?"..... I wonder what goes through the minds of Customs officers when they see young women from a 1st world and affluent country (it ain't the Phillipines) who look like they would never be doing jobs as housekeepers or cleaning somebody's toilets.

 

[jimbo2006]

Interestingly, when you go to Canadian Customs off a plane at about 12 noon, Korean Airlines is usually also scheduled to arrive. If you say you're here on business, you immediately get sent to a line to explain to a Customs official about it. You'll see a long column of Korean women applying for work visas, along with the usual sniffling and tears as they're being questioned: "you want to come here to do what?", "you have a university education?", "you have no employer here ready to hire you?"

I witnessed something similar when I was returning from a trip. A couple of Korean women were asked for their travel documents while they desperately fumbled through their belongings to find (or not find) them. Meanwhile, the male who was accompanying them kept walking ahead as one of the women repeatedly called to him for assistance, but to no avail

Here's another story:
http://www.richmond-news.com/issues07/023107/news/023107nn2.html

And another:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2007/02/15/bc-xu.html

wow $1.3 Million a year in tax-free cash guys, that's better than any RRSP, RESP, or whatever savings plan you or I can come up with. Since its RRSP crunch time now, kind of reminds me of your typical financial adviser who tells you to contribute more at an earlier age or try to increase your yearly returns. If you invest $10K a year @6% after 30 years you'll have $750K, while the same $10K/yr at 5% equals $600K. Kind of like how Pinky charges $.8 vs the more traditional $.4 at other micros. You get the drift

On a more solemn note, could this be the end of Pinky's?

 

[georgebushmoron]

wow $1.3 Million a year in tax-free cash guys...

On a more solemn note, could this be the end of Pinky's?

After the conviction and court costs, they'll sick the tax agency on her. She'll have to file a tax return and be in debt for the taxes on income of $1.3M, with no way to pay it back and interest piling up while in jail. When she gets out, she might try to flee the country but with that much taxes owing, Canada Customs and Revenue Agency won't give her a passport. Nice how Customs and the tax people amalgamated into one unit, isn't it?

The end you speak of could literally mean suicide.

 

[Maury Beniowski]

And you wonder why places like SL are asking for us to shut our mouths at this time on the review front!!

I doubt LE has to stick their heads in here to collect any significant evidence, which by the way would be inadmissible in Court anyway. No, they can gather all the facts they want just by sending undercovers. If it ever reaches the point where Perb becomes a tool for LE, then we're in trouble already.

Pinky made a habit of flaunting the Law. Sticking her head on the lion's mouth can only be done so long before it got bitten off. She'll be used as an example for others that want to do likewise in this business. She's given them tons of cannon fodder to put her away for a while.

Some Perbites may wish to have their names engraved on her crowbars for having contributed so generously to her demise.

 

[jimbo2006]

After the conviction and court costs, they'll sick the tax agency on her. She'll have to file a tax return and be in debt for the taxes on income of $1.3M, with no way to pay it back and interest piling up while in jail. When she gets out, she might try to flee the country but with that much taxes owing, Canada Customs and Revenue Agency won't give her a passport. Nice how Customs and the tax people amalgamated into one unit, isn't it?

The end you speak of could literally mean suicide.

No sugar coating from you is there GBM She might need her Korean contacts to smuggle her out of the country for a change

 

[georgebushmoron]

I doubt LE has to stick their heads in here to collect any significant evidence, which by the way would be inadmissible in Court anyway. No, they can gather all the facts they want just by sending undercovers. ...

Some Perbites may wish to have their names engraved on her crowbars for having contributed so generously to her demise.

Posts on this board can not be used as evidence, but "inadmissability" is a misnomer. Prosecutors have often introduced inadmissable evidence knowing it will be thrown out, the tactic being to prejudice the jury. It's not like a juror's mind will forget the evidence when told it is "inadmissable" and struck from the record. A crafty lawyer knows when to use inadmissable evidence even as he risks getting the whole case thrown out if he abuses it enough. But we all know that a judge is not likely to throw out a case brought forth by the Crown.

Secondly, this board is an investigative tool for LE. Sure, these posts are just little stories put up by nobodies, but LE will follow them up once they see a pattern or an address being posted. LE can pose as members to this board easily enough. Why not... it's a cheap investigative tool to sit at a computer and find out what's going on.

It's too early to tell how the raids on the MPs and the illegal places will impact this business and this board. But if there is any impact, it is surely not going to be positive. Furthermore, we can contribute to the demise of this board by not showing any discretion.

 

[PoorGuy]

and 5668 Wessex St. in Vancouver—

Practically down the street where I live. I fucking walk past that house every weekday!

Two blocks up from Safeway and behind Consumers Produce before London Drugs!

 

[smokeeater]

Pardon ???

The end you speak of could literally mean suicide.

Per chance, do I detect a hint of megalomania caught up in the usual prairie wind.???

 

[duffer888]

After the conviction and court costs, they'll sick the tax agency on her. She'll have to file a tax return and be in debt for the taxes on income of $1.3M, with no way to pay it back and interest piling up while in jail. When she gets out, she might try to flee the country but with that much taxes owing, Canada Customs and Revenue Agency won't give her a passport. Nice how Customs and the tax people amalgamated into one unit, isn't it?

The end you speak of could literally mean suicide.

Although you are correct in regards to the tax agency being interested in her unreported income, for clarification the Canada Revenue Agency is separate and distinct from the Canada Border Services Agency, commonly referred to as Canada Customs. Also, the Canada Revenue Agency does not issue passports. Rather, passports are administered by Passport Canada. Further, a person's tax debt has no bearing on a person's passport application.

 

[littlejimbigher]

If she was able to hide a significant portion of that money she is still laughing. Mind you it looks like they will take the 2 houses.

 

[HaywoodJabloemy]

From The Province today

...Vancouver police vice-squad Sgt. Matt Kelly... said it does not appear the women were victims of human smuggling or trafficking, and they were apparently free to leave at any time.

Much like the MP raids in December, the police intentionally mislead the gullible media into strongly implying that the women are sex slaves, and only the ones who ask the right questions find out the truth.

That's some serious time. The procurement conviction would be an indictment. The common bawdy house one is probably a summary offense...

Keeping a common bawdy-house is an indictable offence, while the other bawdy-house charges in section 210 and 211 (inmates, found-ins, landlords, and transporting) are "guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction."

Two and ten years are the maximum sentences stated in The Criminal Code under section 210 and 212.

210. (1) Every one who keeps a common bawdy-house is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years...

Procuring

212. (1) Every one who...

(f) on the arrival of a person in Canada, directs or causes that person to be directed or takes or causes that person to be taken, to a common bawdy-house,

(g) procures a person to enter or leave Canada, for the purpose of prostitution...

(j) lives wholly or in part on the avails of prostitution of another person,

is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years.

 

[ReluctantPooner]

I witnessed something similar when I was returning from a trip. A couple of Korean women were asked for their travel documents while they desperately fumbled through their belongings to find (or not find) them. Meanwhile, the male who was accompanying them kept walking ahead as one of the women repeatedly called to him for assistance, but to no avail

Here's another story:
http://www.richmond-news.com/issues07/023107/news/023107nn2.html

And another:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2007/02/15/bc-xu.html

wow $1.3 Million a year in tax-free cash guys, that's better than any RRSP, RESP, or whatever savings plan you or I can come up with. Since its RRSP crunch time now, kind of reminds me of your typical financial adviser who tells you to contribute more at an earlier age or try to increase your yearly returns. If you invest $10K a year @6% after 30 years you'll have $750K, while the same $10K/yr at 5% equals $600K. Kind of like how Pinky charges $.8 vs the more traditional $.4 at other micros. You get the drift

On a more solemn note, could this be the end of Pinky's?

I wonder if she were reporting the income and paying taxes, if it would have diverted th LE scrutiny??

 

[Quarter Mile'r]

From The Province today Much like the MP raids in December, the police intentionally mislead the gullible media into strongly implying that the women are sex slaves, and only the ones who ask the right questions find out the truth.

Their agenda on this is clear, women being forced into sex slavery.
So friggin typical of the media hype, fearmongering and over the top
sensationalism is their trademark..............as usual !

Looks like there going to try and plug her Capone style for tax evasion
as well. Interesting story.

..........QM'r

 

[QuickPick]

Posts on this board can not be used as evidence, but "inadmissability" is a misnomer. Prosecutors have often introduced inadmissable evidence knowing it will be thrown out, the tactic being to prejudice the jury. It's not like a juror's mind will forget the evidence when told it is "inadmissable" and struck from the record. A crafty lawyer knows when to use inadmissable evidence even as he risks getting the whole case thrown out if he abuses it enough. But we all know that a judge is not likely to throw out a case brought forth by the Crown.

If an evidence is inadmissable to court, then it won't be able to bring up to the jury. If an evidence are in question, the judge will discuss with lawyers of both sides without the jury presents. The judge will make sure all evidences heard by the jury are admissable. There is no way for the prosecutors to present any inadmissable evidences to jury. If it really happens accidentally, the case can be declared as mis-trial and need to start again with new jury. If the case continues to the end, this will be a very solid argument in appealing court.

 

[KingLeer]

Posts on this board can not be used as evidence, but "inadmissability" is a misnomer. Prosecutors have often introduced inadmissable evidence knowing it will be thrown out, the tactic being to prejudice the jury. It's not like a juror's mind will forget the evidence when told it is "inadmissable" and struck from the record. A crafty lawyer knows when to use inadmissable evidence even as he risks getting the whole case thrown out if he abuses it enough. But we all know that a judge is not likely to throw out a case brought forth by the Crown.

Unless, of course, the accused elects trial by judge and not jury.

 

[georgebushmoron]

Although you are correct in regards to the tax agency being interested in her unreported income, for clarification the Canada Revenue Agency is separate and distinct from the Canada Border Services Agency, commonly referred to as Canada Customs. Also, the Canada Revenue Agency does not issue passports. Rather, passports are administered by Passport Canada. Further, a person's tax debt has no bearing on a person's passport application.

You are correct about CCRA now split into CRA and CBS. However, Canadian passports are still subject to the discretion of the passport office and citizens may be flagged for any number of purposes by different agencies. One such purpose would be those who have security tickets against them, those who are on bail, those who have done nasty things in foreign countries (ie: sex crimes against kids), those involved in massive fraud, and yes, those who have massive tax debts who are likely to run.

 

[georgebushmoron]

If an evidence is inadmissable to court, then it won't be able to bring up to the jury. If an evidence are in question, the judge will discuss with lawyers of both sides without the jury presents. The judge will make sure all evidences heard by the jury are admissable. There is no way for the prosecutors to present any inadmissable evidences to jury. If it really happens accidentally, the case can be declared as mis-trial and need to start again with new jury. If the case continues to the end, this will be a very solid argument in appealing court.

Technically you are correct. However, in practice, this does not occur as you state. Evidence entered formally will go by route of the process you stated. Even the process of discovery before trial, where all evidence to be brought into court does not catch all. Postings by anonymous people on the internet can not be entered as evidence because it does not meet the criteria for evidence. However, it can be discussed by witnesses on either side without it being entered formally as evidence. And there are plenty of cases where this does in fact occur without mistrials occuring.