social functions can be fun with an SP but it depends upon her and the skills required. I have taken a few to conferences where experiences varied. I got one gal a spouse badge, I was working on the committee and could make a badge, so no sweat. She was a real actor, we did the hospitality suites and party rooms, and she managed some fantastic fraud work, handle the guys who had drank a bit too much, dealth with stuff, and had a ball. Next gal preferred to stay in the room or avoid any contact. But she had a good time through the day, where all went well. Last week was in eastern US with a local Sp, badged her again, and we did some hospitality suites etc. But frankly she was not up to the game and decided to hide out rather that play. Our approach was to go our seperate ways but to the same room, and just keep an eye on each other. fun fun fun
Sugar Daddies
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I completely agree. It's one thing if you're a multimillionaire investment banker or CEO but for people that work for a living, even a decent living, plunking down $4000 a month to get your rocks off maybe three or four times in that time period is absolutely nuts.
I've made a nice six figure salary before, and even then I wouldn't be paying out for someone to sit at home and most likely see other Sugar Daddies also. I can't blame a woman for getting what she can out of gullible men, but I can sure as hell make sure I'm not one of them.
Help me understand, you want a test drive, but does she get compensated for this or is it 'on the house'.
Personally I can see how a lady would refuse a test drive. The gentleman gets laid and doesn't have to pull pennies out of his pocket. He could find a great racket in this and never spend a dime.
Though I personally find myself in the non-Sugar Daddy column, I have to agree with Ms. Lane. If a man is preparing to embark on a long term financial agreement like this anyways, the very LEAST he could do is wine and dine his potential Sugar Baby for an evening prior to experiencing her womanly wiles. And I don't mean grabbing a McBurger at the drive-thru. If he is that serious about becoming a Sugar Daddy he should be escorting her to a very pricey dinner, perhaps some after shopping then a romantic evening with room service. If she's willing to indulge him by including this man into her life it's the least he could do.
Either way he'll have his answer in the morning.
Thank YOU !
Dinner, Jacuzzi, Wine (many bottles) hot man who thinks I rock, shopping .... I'm in !!
Just an observation,
But if your a long term regular with a girl, isn't that kind of what you are.
I don't know but is there a definition of a sugar daddy.
My lady has referred to me as an elite elite client or her number one client or her best client.
You can take that how ever you want, but,
it's one main ingrediant is money. I would wager over the last five years, no one client has spent the money and time on her I have.
That makes me numeral uno, or a sugar daddy or a fool, take your pick,
And I think every relationship has its rules and boundaries. Agreed or worked out or fought over by both parties.
I have seen her a lot spent a ton of money like I said not unlike what some guys have spent, but the difference in my case is I have spent it only on her.
And just a comment about friendship and an sp.
I think there are rules and boundaries and limits and respect in terms of this hobby.
And when your a friend with an sp, or a dear friend with an sp,
these rules and boundaries and limits and need for respect don't go away,
they only become more important.
But if your a long term regular with a girl, isn't that kind of what you are.
I don't know but is there a definition of a sugar daddy.
My lady has referred to me as an elite elite client or her number one client or her best client.
You can take that how ever you want, but,
it's one main ingrediant is money. I would wager over the last five years, no one client has spent the money and time on her I have.
That makes me numeral uno, or a sugar daddy or a fool, take your pick,
And I think every relationship has its rules and boundaries. Agreed or worked out or fought over by both parties.
I have seen her a lot spent a ton of money like I said not unlike what some guys have spent, but the difference in my case is I have spent it only on her.
And just a comment about friendship and an sp.
I think there are rules and boundaries and limits and respect in terms of this hobby.
And when your a friend with an sp, or a dear friend with an sp,
these rules and boundaries and limits and need for respect don't go away,
they only become more important.
Regrettably I am secure enough in my appearance to know I am not to be listed in the "hot" category, nor am I wealthy enough to be able to consider partaking in Sugar Daddieing...
Daddying...
Sugar Poping
However, were I a man of more considerable means and looked like Ryan Gosling I would take you up on your offer in a wink and a smile.
And I would set the order more like Dinner; Shopping; Jacuzzi (with wine); Massage (also with wine); and then follow with the hotness. lol
Irregardless I am becoming much too far off track for this thread so I think I'll just slink on back into the nether realms between the Victoria review sections. Ta ta!
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A little flirting and banter between perv's is never a bad thing, dont sink back the nether realms for to long, you might not find your way out. Let me get you a life boat just in case you want off the island
i just think if one has $4000 to spend per month lets say (which i dont more like under $1000) dating is more plentiful and real with more open possibilities than sugar babying. one could argue the same for pooning in general but once you get above a certain level i dont see how a gf (that likes you for you) to be that unattainable to resort to this.
let me ask newatit : how many women are you seeing per month? you said you have too many to shake a stick at, ok, but still 3 women a month given your figures is $3600/mo (1200x3). thats almost the same as $4000 for one.
let me ask newatit : how many women are you seeing per month? you said you have too many to shake a stick at, ok, but still 3 women a month given your figures is $3600/mo (1200x3). thats almost the same as $4000 for one.
Flirtatious banter in a civilized give and take with a rapturously lascivious woman such as yourself is more than enough to keep me coming back for more. And it's nice to poke ones head out from the underbrush of the backwoods in the north island occasionally. Apparently it's also sometimes well worth it as well.A little flirting and banter between perv's is never a bad thing, dont sink back the nether realms for to long, you might not find your way out. Let me get you a life boat just in case you want off the island
As to the topic at hand, though not my preference of choice for recreational fun, I can see how if someone was financially stable enough to do so that the appeal of Sugar Poping would be hard to resist. After all, I'm assuming that on the evenings when things do run hot and heavy that there are multiple moments of nirvana enjoyed (hopefully for both parties). If that is the case then you might want to factor those multiple moments into the monetary equation compared to single shot encounters with SPs.
Perhaps it's not such a bad arrangement after all.
a reply to ballzdeep. How many a month, depends a lot on the month. Have done three since sunday when I got back from a trip where I had taken one gal to a famous US city. So that is four in the last two weeks. all but one from Seekingarrangement.com. The money? well every once in awhile I get a bonus, and just enjoy it. But I am calling off involvement for the rest of April, have a different project that needs money.
And an apology to CuteAngie, to whom I accidentally credited the site name. No, the site name is in the original post if you follow the link.
Now as for a few experiences. I would be ware of this site, and the practice, as it is a haven for rip offs if you relax your guard, not unlike the rest of the industry.
Of all the gals I have contacted, I am keeping three, the rest I have lost or fired. Some just dropped off. One I let go at the initial interview because she was not into dfk. a few others failed to make the first meeting, at Starbucks, even though they agreed. Funny thing is these gals had led along a conversation for a week or two, with sexy pictures etc. I suspect they were shams, or maybe just way too shy. a lot of foreign interest, and if you start dealing with people in far off cities, you have to wonder why they would be after you. So another sham. Just be vigilent if you are going to play.
And an apology to CuteAngie, to whom I accidentally credited the site name. No, the site name is in the original post if you follow the link.
Now as for a few experiences. I would be ware of this site, and the practice, as it is a haven for rip offs if you relax your guard, not unlike the rest of the industry.
Of all the gals I have contacted, I am keeping three, the rest I have lost or fired. Some just dropped off. One I let go at the initial interview because she was not into dfk. a few others failed to make the first meeting, at Starbucks, even though they agreed. Funny thing is these gals had led along a conversation for a week or two, with sexy pictures etc. I suspect they were shams, or maybe just way too shy. a lot of foreign interest, and if you start dealing with people in far off cities, you have to wonder why they would be after you. So another sham. Just be vigilent if you are going to play.
If it's a healthy SD arrangement, it sounds as close to having a GF or wife as one can get for the SD with fewer or none of the encumbering downsides of these. Child-bearing-and-rearing seems to be the only significant thing missing from this form of heterosexual relationship.
Unlike marriage, there are no long-tail liabilities (long-term or indefinite support payments if things breakdown, splitting of assets), the man has more control of the relationship (GFs exert control with manipulation, withholding sex, and emotional blackmail/desire to get married), a man can keep a harem if he so desires and has the resources to swing it, if problems develop it's easier to break things off as the emotional attachment sounds more attenuated, and, something the ladies will find distasteful, she can be discarded fairly easily if she becomes unattractive, both physically and as a person.
Unlike marriage, there are no long-tail liabilities (long-term or indefinite support payments if things breakdown, splitting of assets), the man has more control of the relationship (GFs exert control with manipulation, withholding sex, and emotional blackmail/desire to get married), a man can keep a harem if he so desires and has the resources to swing it, if problems develop it's easier to break things off as the emotional attachment sounds more attenuated, and, something the ladies will find distasteful, she can be discarded fairly easily if she becomes unattractive, both physically and as a person.
seriously? what kind of marriage are you familiar with? SD should not expect exclusivity. Arrangement if fair and the right match will be easy. REAl relationships should begin based on common ground and shared hobbies etc. Two people should enrich each others lives. A sd relationship should also be an addition not a project or an attempt to buy someone's favoritism. its important the sugar baby have another source of oincome so that dhshe does not become a slave to the Sd's demands. Sd's that choose vulnerable women do so for a reason. Remember girls.... you need to keep your own personal values and goals so you dont become a victim of a deluded obsessed man. Anyone that sets parameters on your whole life or makes false promises of jobs that never happen is settting you up to be in a very scary position. This is often done unsder the "guise" of helping when it is always self-serving.
I would agree with the comment you have to be careful.
More so then a casual hookup with a regular sp.
My one experiance with sugarbabies from arrangementseekers wasn't a good one.
These girls don't have clue what there doing. There all over the place.
Maybe if I had more time and patients I could have hooked up with some one. Or maybe just more money.
There are or were some serious hot fucking babes on that sight.
And a few nut cases I mean just weird.
I have a good thing going with the sp I see, I never really had the patients but most likely could have hooked up with some one, but like I said be dam careful. A lot of weirdo's out there.
I think to some extent that is why were all in this, we just suck at relationships or are a nut case.
And a few of us, just want something different or a change of pace.
More so then a casual hookup with a regular sp.
My one experiance with sugarbabies from arrangementseekers wasn't a good one.
These girls don't have clue what there doing. There all over the place.
Maybe if I had more time and patients I could have hooked up with some one. Or maybe just more money.
There are or were some serious hot fucking babes on that sight.
And a few nut cases I mean just weird.
I have a good thing going with the sp I see, I never really had the patients but most likely could have hooked up with some one, but like I said be dam careful. A lot of weirdo's out there.
I think to some extent that is why were all in this, we just suck at relationships or are a nut case.
And a few of us, just want something different or a change of pace.
All good points.
Maybe the SD shouldn't expect exclusivity, but he will likely want a minimal amount of time (but not monopolize her time) that is proportional to the resources he's providing her. If he finds he's getting bumped because she wants to date other guys when he expects to see her and enjoy her company, unless he likes being financially cuckolded, the SD-SB relationship will suffer. She's pushed her luck.
It is possible the SB, or both parties, expect exclusivity sometimes and may mutually agree to that condition.
"Two people should enrich each others lives" is a little too general, could be the motto of any type of successful relationship between any two people. I am sure in a good SD_SB arrangement both parties could gain something that goes beyond the financial for the woman, sex for the man.
"its important the sugar baby have another source of oincome". My busy college student SB didn't have time for a job, that's why she sought out me.
"Sd's that choose vulnerable women do so for a reason". I hope you aren't implying the SD_SB relationship is basically predatory. It's a mutual agreement between two consenting adults. What constitutes a vulnerable woman is open to debate. At the extreme end (the McKinnon-Dworkin school of feminism) some would tell women to always be completely mistrustful of all men, they are vulnerable to all of them, even brothers and fathers, and that ALL men are potential rapists.
Your advice "....you dont become a victim of a deluded obsessed man" is also too general, as good as it is. That advice applies at all times.
The sugar daddy route is absolutely a bad route. I found having a few regular ongoing NSA arrangement$ on the go works best. No more than 3 and you do need more than one if you're into specific looks or, um, activities depending on your mood or cravings. Throw in the occasional trip to San Diego, Hawaii, and maybe Mexico covering flights, room, and meals and you're all good most of the time.
possibly the arrangement was interesting in the beginning due to it's ?newness" but perhaps became dull. I find it isnt difficult to spend lots of timne with someone that is interesting and participates actively in social activities. If a "sugar daddy" is looking for a "couch partner" or just a bed mate, he might as well pay by the hour. im ghuessing he's getting more out of the arrangement timewise than he'd get out of pating regular rates. If the sugar daddy isnt providing any sugar he's unlikely to get any
