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vancity_cowboy

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i think that table is bogus - all the 'self-reported' numbers are on average larger than the 'measured' numbers... and there are a lot of 'self-reported' :)
 

TooLegit

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It wasn't so much that he brought up cranial capacity but he compared cranial capacity with IQ, there is no link between the two. Women have an even smaller cranial volume then black men and if there was a link betweeen having a smaller brain and IQ, white women would have a lower IQ then black men but there is no difference in IQ between white men and white women.
You are mostly correct. No study has yet determined a legitimate correlation between cranial capacity and IQ. It is true that average IQ scores among those groups with larger average cranial capacity are higher, but individually this hypothesis has proven incorrect. Some of the highest measured IQs come from people with smaller than average cranial capacity.

Also, while white men and white women share the same average IQ, men have a much larger range to average from. There are significantly more white men with IQs in the top 2% and the bottom 2% than white women. IE, there are more smart white men out there than smart white women, but there are also more dumb white men than dumb white women. lol

As for penis size...

http://www.sizesurvey.com

There are multiple sections to the Size Survey. The part that is a survey and could be inaccurate and then there is the section where they actually measure to see if they correlate. Lots of information there if you wish to wade through it. ;)
 

bambino

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Dude, I'm a surgeon.
Your beliefs and research are from the 1800's
(but I imagine you were joking).
 

geek

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Dude, I'm a surgeon.
Your beliefs and research are from the 1800's
(but I imagine you were joking).

:confused: what are you talking about?
 

geek

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Usually the national stereotypes are at least partially there for a good reason.

Germans are stern and humourless, Irish are drinkers and storytellers, Italians are excitable and talk with their hands, Scottish are cheap, Swiss are precise etc etc.
Of course other nationalities have those traits, but there seem to be predominant features of certain nationalities.
It may have to do more with language, there is a theory that language effects how people act. The German language has very strict rules and this may translate into german speakers being more inclined to follow the rules.

Chinese speakers who speak english act more like americans than chinese. And when chinese speakers are doing math they are using different parts of their brains, they use part of the brain that process visual information, while North Americans use the language portion of the brain.


i think that table is bogus - all the 'self-reported' numbers are on average larger than the 'measured' numbers... and there are a lot of 'self-reported' :)
Yeah, self-reported isn't the most reliable way of measuring anything. OKCupid found that on average people reporting their height are 1 inch taller than the national average.
 

dbrw42

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like percentage of body fat etc.

for instance black people are lousy swimmers
they generally have a low percentage of body fat,
fat floats muscle sinks
During the Vietnam War, although blacks made up a larger percentage of Army troops than whites(compared to percentages of whites vs blacks in society in general), blacks also made up a much smaller percentage in elite units like the Rangers. It was found that to be a Ranger, you had to know how to swim, and many urban blacks had not learned due to lack of pools in urban areas.
 

geek

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During the Vietnam War, although blacks made up a larger percentage of Army troops than whites(compared to percentages of whites vs blacks in society in general), blacks also made up a much smaller percentage in elite units like the Rangers. It was found that to be a Ranger, you had to know how to swim, and many urban blacks had not learned due to lack of pools in urban areas.
yeah this is mostly accurate, getting into the military and not being able to swim is not a problem, if you want to get into any of the special forces you absolutely have to swim like a fish. But there are other reasons.

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/noframes/read/4410

Why are so few minorities interested in joining the Pentagon' s most elite forces?

The reasons are numerous.

For many, water is the great barrier.

Commandos, whether Navy, Army or Air Force, must swim. Special-operations missions can range from covert surveillance of a beach where Marines will land to a parachute-borne rescue of downed Air Force fliers 1,000 miles at sea, or Green Berets using scuba gear to infiltrate enemy positions.

For the Army' s Green Berets and Rangers, prospects must swim just 50 meters. For the Navy and Air Force, candidates must swim miles before they can graduate.

Air Force 1st Lt. Andre Lobo would be the perfect combat controller, an air commando who goes into hostile territory ahead of other American forces, said his boss, Col. Jeff Buckmelter, commanding officer of the 720th Special Tactics Group.

Lobo, a staff officer, is certainly athletic enough. The Air Force Academy graduate enjoys running and sky diving.

And, he' s black. There are no African-American officers in combat control.

His only problem?

"When I see a swimming qualification, I usually say it' s not for me," Lobo said. Not having learned to swim until the academy, Lobo doesn' t have the confidence in his swimming ability that he needs to pass the commando indoctrination course.

Some observers speculate that black youths, particularly inner-city residents, have few opportunities to learn swimming and little encouragement to learn.

Physical endurance and ability aside, there' s another fundamental reason so few servicemen, minority and otherwise, seek membership in elite units. Simply put, the nation isn' t at war, and they didn' t enlist to fight.

Instead, many signed up to learn skills they can take back to the public sector -- such as truck maintenance, health care, food service or communications, according to a study by Rand Corp. researchers.

Others are thinking more about their families than military glory or living on the edge.

The Rand study found that many Latino soldiers surveyed mentioned a perception that special ops keeps soldiers away from their families longer than other Army units. While unit deployments are generally a few months long in special ops, the training tempo is high and divorce is rampant within Special Forces, soldiers said.

"Hispanics are more family-oriented," said Jaime Reyes, a sergeant first class in a support unit for Special Forces troops at Fort Bragg. "They know that once they go into Special Forces that means a lot of time away from their families.

"That' s one of my reasons (for not trying out for the Green Berets). The only way I' d join is if I' m single."

A further impediment is the perception of racial prejudice -- often perpetuated by the absence of minorities.

"The reason we don' t have more minorities here is because we don' t have more minorities here," said Navy Capt. Ed Bowen, who commands the Naval Special Warfare Center in Coronado.

Bowen said that if more blacks were Navy SEALs, prospective black sailors might be more inclined to try out for the job.

Minorities have to reach a "critical mass" that shows potential candidates that minorities are welcome and essential personnel within the community, he added.

Racism or the perception of racial discrimination also may be factors in discouraging blacks and other minorities from joining special-operations forces, said Rand researchers and others.

It' s the perception that matters, not whether racism really exists, said Brig. Gen. Remo Butler, the first black Green Beret general.

With his cannonball-shaped head and arm muscles sculpted by years of off-duty professional boxing, Butler frequently is mistaken for a first sergeant rather than a general.

During workouts at the gym, Butler tries to recruit young black soldiers for Special Forces.

"Consistently, I get the same answer," he said. ' Sir, Special Forces is full of rednecks and Klansmen.' "

Or, they tell Butler that no blacks are in Special Forces.

"Perception is a very strong thing," he added. "Perception is reality."

While many minority members of Special Forces said their units had been free of racial tension, they agreed some forms of racism still exist within the military.

White-supremacist and militia groups appear to have sympathizers and, likely, a foothold within special-operations forces, particularly Army Special Forces, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors hate groups.

Former Green Berets have been tied to several militia and neo-Nazi groups.

Top special-operations officers discount the impact of white supremacists and militias.

How can Special Forces troops be prejudiced when half of their work is living in foreign countries and teaching foreign troops? asked Army Maj. Anthony Fletcher, a black Green Beret.

"When you go to another country, you are a minority," he added. "You are an American."

There is no room for prejudice or racism, commandos said, because units are so small, usually a dozen men or fewer, that everyone must depend on everyone else.

"If we go to ' the show' (war or battle), you have to depend on the guy on your left and right," said Sgt. Cedric Turner, a black Ranger at Fort Benning, Ga.

Butler said many African-Americans who fail Special Forces training may believe their failure was because of race and will tell others, "Don' t go there," and those men won' t take a chance.

Several black operators said fellow minorities are more scrutinized and often held to a higher standard than their white counterparts.

"If a black (messes) up, the next black starts at that point," said Chief Petty Officer Rob Roy, a black SEAL based in Coronado.

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While the three services acknowledge a lack of minority volunteers, only the Navy has acted aggressively to solve the problem.

That' s where guys like Washington come in.

The Navy sends him and other SEAL recruiters to high schools and ethnic festivals. It sponsors school programs, such as the Inner City Games, in predominantly minority areas. Even the SEAL training base in Coronado has become a tourist attraction for high school and college tour groups.

As the SEALs' only black recruiter before he retired this summer, Washington often visited inner-city schools on the West Coast.

During assemblies, Washington' s presentation was encouraging, albeit blunt.

"You don' t have to be Tarzan or an Olympic swimmer or a track star," Washington said. "But to succeed, you will become an athlete."

The lean, muscular, 45-year-old petty officer first class often demonstrated his athletic abilities, taking the SEAL fitness qualification test alongside prospective candidates half his age -- and besting them most times.

Next summer, the SEALs plan to offer a junior SEAL training course for junior ROTC students from Detroit and St. Louis high schools. The idea is to pique adolescent interest in the Navy and SEALs early, officials said. It' s a long-term approach that Navy officials hope will increase minority numbers within a few years.

"We need to expose people at a younger age," said Rear Adm. Eric Olson, who commands the SEALs.

It' s a soft sell, done hard.

In Miami, the SEALs' Leapfrog parachute team sky-dived at a predominantly Latino high school, and they got TV and radio air time while in town, said Lt. Tom Greer, who heads the SEAL recruiting office. Rappelling, scuba demonstrations and static displays also are in the SEALs' recruiting arsenal.

Minorities are an under-recruited niche market, said Bowen, who oversees SEAL training.

Many inner-city blacks and Latinos have been toughened by a hard life, Bowen suggested. Athletically and academically, there are no reasons why minorities should have problems with SEAL training, he said.

"You can get tough in the ghetto," said Bowen, adding: "It' s not rocket science. We' re a blue-collar organization."

However, SEAL recruiters admit the results have been paltry.

Meanwhile, the other services are playing catch-up.

The Army is adding people and money to its recruitment effort. It has assigned 25 recruiters to Special Forces and four more are going to be added, said Maj. Ray Salmon, the Green Beret in charge.

The recruiting budget is $590,000, and he could use more, Salmon added. There is a Green Beret recruiting Web page, plus advertising fliers, brochures and ads in base newspapers, a toll-free phone number and recruiter visits to every Army base with likely candidates.

The Air Force Special Operations Command has added its own recruiter to help the service' s regular recruiting staff. It also has created a parachute team called STARS, for Special Tactics and Rescue Specialists.

However, the Army and Air Force recruiting efforts aren' t specifically targeting minorities. They' re just trying to get more qualified operators, no matter the race. And, they hope, the number of minorities will increase, too.

The Navy, Army and Air Force also are changing the way they select commandos, hoping to reduce the high number of minorities who wash out during training.
 

geek

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Speaking of stereotype's and germans

Oh and some of the comments i found to be hilarous.

http://gawker.com/5813316/right+wing-german-student-groups-debating-nazi+style-race-code

Right-Wing German Student Groups Debating ‘Nazi-Style Race Code’

Lauri Apple — The Burschenschaften are secretive, mostly-male German student groups whose members wear 19th-century outfits, hold beer-drinking and sword-fighting contests, and prove their manhood via facial scars. This week they've been making headlines because of some leaked documents that shed light on the racist views held by many of their leaders.

Apparently, this week the main "umbrella" organization of the Burschenschaften—whose ranks number around 1,300 active members—wanted to expel a chapter based in the city of Mannheim, all because it had offered membership to a man with Chinese parents. The man, Kai Ming Au, is a German citizen who even served in the army, but his credentials did not impress the "more conservative elements" (i.e. the racists) in Bavaria, reports the BBC:

There was a feeling from the more conservative elements in Bavaria that, according to internal documents, members with "non-European facial and bodily characteristics" did not qualify as Germans and so could not join what the objectors see as a bastion of true German identity, our correspondent says.

"Especially in times of rising immigration, it is not acceptable that people who are not from the German family tree should be admitted to the Burschenschaften," as one document puts it.

At a general meeting held this week, Burschenschaft members were asked to vote on expelling the Mannheim club. But on Thursday, that item—plus another requiring prospective members to prove their ethnic Germanhood—was taken off the table after some of the group's liberal members complained. Still, a spokesman for the main group predicts that discussions about membership criteria will continue.

A scholar who studies the Burschenschaft says that the groups are basically asking people to "prove that you have German blood in your veins, which is difficult." Indeed! Especially when science has all but shown that blood cells are nation-neutral. The group's emphasis on ethnic purity has led some to call the proposed guidelines a "Nazi-style race code" (which is slightly ironic, as the Nazis forced the organization to disband in 1935).

The heartening news in this otherwise foul situation is that many Burschenschaften members disagree with the motions under consideration this week. The Mannheim club at the center of the controversy is pushing for reform, says Kai Ming Au, who serves as chapter spokesman. The bad news, says scholars, is that some of the right-wing crazies will "end up in influential positions in society." Isn't that always the way.
 
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