Stacey @ Sinderellas

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canaussielad

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I know you are trying to support the other girls at Sin and I commend you for that. However my review called it as it happened. no lies, embelishments or misguided information. The reason I knew the exact times was that I wanted to see for myself how long a session lasted based upon the recent postings. What happened in the session no doubt has been replayed amongst many pooners and probably perberts as well.
I have nothing against the other girls just this one and the management of the place. One girl can do a lot of damage to your reputation. Either straighten her out or cut her loose. And as I stated in earlier posts, I will go back to see OTHER girls their and review them accordingly.
 

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Thanks Irishmic for the compliment.

I think I made a mistake adding this to a review rather than raising it generally. I'm not trying to support the girls at Sinderellas. I suppose you could say I'm trying to support the girls in general because I think that they have a challenging enough time providing an intimate service to men who are usually some combination of fat, ugly, old, dirty, crass, insensitive, difficult to please, and unappreciate of being able to spend time with an attractive girl regardless of their "hard earned dollars". The few times I have heard about a girl crying because of insensitive comments about her written here I haven't felt very good about being a member of PERB.

If the purpose of PERB is to vent about bad sessions and have a virtual locker room to brag about sexual experiences then there is no problem. If the purpose of PERB is to improve future experiences then there is a big problem because the people being reviewed do not respect this forum. That is why I think how things are communicated matters.
 

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Respect

I agree but I have found that the girls are quick to learn which ones of us are sensitive and compassionate towards them by our comments and are quick to ask about tips for improved service or attitude privately while in session if and when they figure out who I am.

I too have been told stories about girls crying over things said on this board and all it does is make me want to go skull hunting but alas we don't live in a perfect world.
 

Bobo The Rabbit

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No girl is going to get upset over PERB unless her service is horrible, just look at all the top notch girls who post on PERB. It's possible that they have a bad session and it gets reflected here, but hey, your off day dosent put 2 browns back into my pocket.
 

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wasnt great

I have had a visit with Stacey and agree she is very beautiful and friendly, that was where it ended for me. There wasn't a whole lot of effort put into the session.

MAYBE I JUST HAVE A BAD ATTITUDE
 

ace85

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You seem bitter

Maybe you aren't that attractive? Maybe you smelled bad. Have a candid conversation with an SP and hear something from their side. Sometimes it is much more than a bad attitude. I am joking here. (edited).

On to another RANT.

Have you guys that are complaining ever talked to the SP about a session, before you have the session. Tell them what you like and don't like.

Sometimes you will get an SP that will tell you that you guys most likely won't have a good time.

My suggestion to most of the complaining POONERS out there is stand up for yourselves and quit being such victims.

Take steps to avoid bad sessions, speak your mind, ask questions. If you set your self up to be taken advantage of, you will be taken advantage of.
 
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Bobo The Rabbit

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Ace you have to be the first person on PERB I have ever taken a dislike to, comments like your last post are disgusting.
What are you going to walk into the studio talk to stacy and say "hey babe I stuck up for you on a message board on the internet, now blow me"

You constantly stick up for SPs who get bad reviews.

In your entier time here on PERB you have only posted TWO reviews, yet you seem to obviously be a expert on reviews, SPs and thier service.

I dont want to offend you, but you are being offensive to alot of the guys on this board especialy with those comments of yours.

Edmonton PERB is the best board on PERB, theres none of the stupidty that can at times take place on the BC threads, so if you dont mind clean your act up and show respect not only to the SPs but also to your fellow posters.
 

ace85

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I don't ask for special treatment.

I would never ask for special treatment, and I am not sticking up for SPs on the board.

On the contrary I am actually offering advice on how to avoid a bad session.

For instance if you were to walk in and take Stacy to the room and try to dicsuss a session with her, you would find her very difficult to have much of a conversation about the type of session you could in enjoy. As a result based on the vibe you get in return you could decide not to stay. It is called using your brain.

I have had 2 sessions with Stacy 1 (reverse) was OK the second FS was not good. I expected very early on that it would be not good, and honestly I kept going as to confirm my expectations. That was actually my last below average session in Edmonton.

I don't feel compelled to bash SP's everyone has their own tastes. Me telling you to go see Natasha (who I had an phenomenal session with) might be bad news, based on your defensiveness and desire not to like me becasue I don't like reading about grown men who have choices and the power to pay or not pay claiming to be victims. You might not have a good session with Natasha, you might not like her. Now if I said go talk to Natasha she is very attractive, and you decided to stay becasue you felt a connection then good for you.

Think about it as the opportunity to learn how to fish, instead of me handing you your fish. "How to have a mutually enjoyable session with an SP". Maybe I should teach a course, based on the amount of crying around here there might be some pooners willing to shell out some cash as to help increase the value you get from future pooning dollars.

It is as simple as this. The sooner the pooner realizes that the girls aren't commodities, and the sooner you realize that all you are buying (with any decent SP in Edmonton) when you give them your donation is the opportunity to spend some adult time with them, and realize that the session is actually interactive and how she feels actually matters (in the sense of getting a good session) the better.
 

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My biggests problem with you is your insulting wannabe, maybe he isent attractive? maybe he smells?

If thats not making excuses for a SP, then it sure as hell is a stupid thing to say to a fellow poster.

Anyways im done with this topic, I have said my peice in regards to stacy and the poor management at sinderellas.
 

ace85

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Actually I don't stick up for anyone.

Just to be clear, I am not sticking up for anyone. I beleive in personal responsibility.

Lets be clear with Stacy as an example.

Where has anyone posted that you get a GFE with her?
Where has anyone posted that you are guaranteed a great time with her?

PERB reviews tell me Stacy is wooden, cold and a clock watcher. She doesn't really enjoy her work.


If you go in discuss a session with an SP, have some of your concerns addressed, have her tell you her restrictions, and go through with the session, I beleive that 9 times out of 10 you will have a hard time saying you were deceived or misled or ripped off.

It is my not some humble opinion that the amount of legitimate rip offs are limited in this business, and ususally you have an idea of what type of services you are going to get before the session starts.

Most disappointements on this board are based on 2 things.

1) Thinking with your dick (hot girl has to be good, I am a nice guy, I am a stud, sure she is worth $240, this is going to be great)

2) Unrealistic expectations becasue of reading the board and wanting what Joe Blow got in a past session. What are the details. Maybe the SP was horny, or JoeBlow has a huge cock, or is just her type, or much better looking than you, or SP was in a great mood, or whatever.

You are trying to buy a personal experience with a lady. Very few are such pros that they can guaranteee a great time, and the ones who try to tell you that you are guaranteed a great time are the ones to avoid. All you are really buying is the opportunity to potentially have a great time.

Have the balls to have a real conversation with an SP about what you want or don't want, and ALWAYS remember YMMV.

This isnt rocket science people.
 

ace85

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Smell Bad

I was responding to Wannabes

"Maybe I have a bad attitude".

I was actually being a smart ass.

Sinderellas doesn't have bad management. The lady who manages it is a former SP that used to go by Lacey (my first full service).

The girls love her. she treats them pretty well.

Sinderellas does have Stacey working there who is one of the hottest looking girls in the industry. Sadly her services don't stack up to her looks.
 
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Sindies

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I would like to apologize to canaussielad and to anyone else that has had a session with Stacy and ended up disappointed. I can appreciate it is very frustrating to spend your good monies and find yourself dissatisfied. What I would like you to know about this lady is she is not the GFE she struggles with this type of session. Stacy is total eye candy and an absolute sweetheart! Stacy does have a fallowing of her own...to say she is ripping people off is a false statement, not living up to the expectations of some would be more accurate. Not everyones expectations are the same. Thank- you Trawer for pointing out that if people were to boycott a studio because of one bad experience or someones else's...it could be a real loss not only to the establishment and the other ladies but to yourselves as well! Humans are never perfect and this is a very human industry wouldn't you agree? This thread made me feel as though I was expected to take her down to the town square and have her flogged...LOL. S.G.Gibson and Irishmic your approach to this situation is very admirable and greatly appreciated...I like your style and your understanding of the nature of things. A special thanks to you ace85, I couldn't have said it better...you are bang on!!
 

ace85

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Sindie why cant we PM you?

You don't allow PMs? Or is that just not set up yet?
 

Steve Ray

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The establishment is just as important as the girls

I can remember my first time at Sinderellas. It was with Molly/Jayda. As most of you old timers know she was the worst sp our fine country ever produced. As a matter of fact calling her a sp is an insult to all the other sp’s out there.

After years of refusing to visit the place I stopped by a couple of weeks ago. I went in and had a seat. 10 minutes pass and nobody comes out. Just as I was about to leave a guy comes through the door and tells me he will go get one of the ladies. The tall blonde girl arrives while talking on the phone and tells me to make an appointment next time. She then proceeded to talk on the phone again. She did not introduce herself so I don’t know who she was. What I do know is that I will not set foot in this establishment again.

I have been to Sinderellas twice and had very bad experiences on both occasions. Yes I realize that it was obviously isolated events but that does not change the negative association.

Comparing this to great times I’ve had at Supreme for example. After about twenty visits I have to say that there was not even one disappointment. Sure some of the girls were not great but they all had good attitudes and never tried to overcharge me.

The point I am making is that the establishment is just as important to me as the girls.
 

canaussielad

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Sindies said:
I would like to apologize to canaussielad and to anyone else that has had a session with Stacy and ended up disappointed. I can appreciate it is very frustrating to spend your good monies and find yourself dissatisfied. What I would like you to know about this lady is she is not the GFE she struggles with this type of session. Stacy is total eye candy and an absolute sweetheart! Stacy does have a fallowing of her own...to say she is ripping people off is a false statement, not living up to the expectations of some would be more accurate. Not everyones expectations are the same. Thank- you Trawer for pointing out that if people were to boycott a studio because of one bad experience or someones else's...it could be a real loss not only to the establishment and the other ladies but to yourselves as well! Humans are never perfect and this is a very human industry wouldn't you agree? This thread made me feel as though I was expected to take her down to the town square and have her flogged...LOL. S.G.Gibson and Irishmic your approach to this situation is very admirable and greatly appreciated...I like your style and your understanding of the nature of things. A special thanks to you ace85, I couldn't have said it better...you are bang on!!

Sindies, just to clarify things here, I wasn't there for a gfe nor did I expect one. I was there purely and simply for another reason. Read my original post and you'll see what I mean. As to Stacy herself, does the fact that she is "eye candy" give her the discretion to shortime her clients? Overcharge? Provide poor service? I would think not! I also stated that I would probably visit your studio again but with other ladies, not Stacy.

If anything were to come from this would be the fact that managment may want to point a few things out to her ie. Even if guys "only last 15 minutes or the guy is ugly, or the guy smells or whatever, take the time to provide him with the service he has asked for. In and out the door in under 30 minutes is not acceptable. I don't care if she give a back massage or front massage for an extra 10 minutes the simple fact of the matter is we pay for an hour at least try to make it close to an hour. You may want to point out to her that shortchanging client can lead to a bad reputation. A good reputation is earned.
 

Bobo The Rabbit

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Wow, thats some lousy service.
Well since stacy is only eye candy and her service dosent "live up to expectations" yet thats what some guys are looking for? Well I can recommend you go to www.empornium.us they have opened thier account registration for another 300,000 accounts and its FAST FREE bittorent porn, so if you just want to look at hot girls, I recommend that, instead of paying for looking at a great looking girl with poor service, plus carpal tunnel syndrome aside your bound to have a much better time.
 

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No different than anywhere else, at times...

OK, I have been following this thread topic since its beginning and there are a few things I would like to respond to regarding the current affairs at Sinderellas, the girls, the management and the industry.
I have been boning SP's in MP's for far too long and what I can tell you is the situation with Stacey is not new or uncommon. There are plenty of really hot providers in this town that give shit service, and they reappear in new studio's with new names and will last easily a few years, maybe not making a killing but making a living non the less. I have been sucked in so many times by a hot looking SP it isn't even funny. Stacey is just another example, but this site I would bet only reflects a small percentage of the guys who walk thru the MP's doors, be it Sinderella's or others. So she may well have a good following that will keep her around for some time.
As far as the studio itself goes and the girls that are there, some very very highly recommened babes work there. That never get a bad review. In some studios some of the SPs never get a review period, good or bad. So while we are all guilty of being quick to judge, myself included, we really should measure the good vs bad on any studio. I have had crappy sessions in every imaginable studio in this city at one time or another, and amazing sessions in those same places with someone else, including both Sinderellas and supreme. And every other place imaginable. Unless your real tired of seeing Lauren & Karma, don't stop using the place.

Management. Lacey has been involved in that studio well back into the days of Wynns, and Wynns has spun off many of the girls who now own the other studios. In the last several years when I think of the number of times I went in the room with an unknown hottie and had a good session vs bad, how many different studio's it happens in, Sinderellas is very high on the list of chances are its going to be good. Lacey usually does a very good job recruiting girls, and the right girls. Some of the best wildest studio sessions I've had have been there. I don't know, but lets look at almost any studio in town, you tell me who's batting at least 60%. That leaves 40% average or more that either the girl wasn't that hot or the session wasn't that hot. At least 75% of the time when seeing a new girl at Sinderellas, I have had a great time and repeated. Now, I do not always see the one who came to the door, I like em' hot, plain and simple. Consider the averages, indeed write your reviews, good or bad, but if the review is bad and you have not seen anyone else in that MP, or if you have seen others, mention it.

I wrote a review on a shit time I had at Deja Vu not all that long ago, on a girl who looks like a hottie. The place really isn't as nice as alot of other places, but there are still two other SP's there that I really like. So I still go there, and every once in a while there will be a new girl who comes to the door, lookin real hot and I take the chance. So be it, good or bad. Bad..I don't repeat or do a review. Real real bad, I will do the review.

I am not in any way defending Sinderellas in this post, but more the nature of the industry as such. If I boycotted every MP in this town where I have had 3 or more disappointing sessions, either the girl(who looked) real hot, or the service being over priced or shortened, there would be no place left to go. Just don't see the girl again. The next time she see's you at the door and you don't stay with her she'll get the message. And thats a good way to send it.

My 2 cents worth.

Mex
 

ace85

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canaussielad said:
Sindies, just to clarify things here, I wasn't there for a gfe nor did I expect one. I was there purely and simply for another reason. Read my original post and you'll see what I mean. As to Stacy herself, does the fact that she is "eye candy" give her the discretion to shortime her clients? Overcharge? Provide poor service? I would think not! I also stated that I would probably visit your studio again but with other ladies, not Stacy.

If anything were to come from this would be the fact that managment may want to point a few things out to her ie. Even if guys "only last 15 minutes or the guy is ugly, or the guy smells or whatever, take the time to provide him with the service he has asked for. In and out the door in under 30 minutes is not acceptable. I don't care if she give a back massage or front massage for an extra 10 minutes the simple fact of the matter is we pay for an hour at least try to make it close to an hour. You may want to point out to her that shortchanging client can lead to a bad reputation. A good reputation is earned.
Stacey has been in the business for probably 3 years now. I don't see a little chat with Lacey changing her in room habits. That is possibly the most Naive thing I have ever read.

The studio affects the decor, the waiting room the quality of towels etc. etc.

Management isn't and never will be in control on how your session goes.

Here is a fun concept. Next time you think you are getting over charged, say no and leave. At that point you might beable to make the case with the manager you deserve to have your room fee refunded.

I also challenge any experienced pooner to tell me that after meeting and speaking to a new SP during the introduction you have no clue how the session will be.

9 out of 10 times our gut feelings are right.

Too many times pooners are misled by their desire to get with a hot girl they would otherwise have no chance with. The goal really should be to have a great session.

You always read about the POONER "knowing better".

Trust your first insticts they are usually right.
 
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