Spy cams

[NEbaD]

While recording a session for me has no appeal and is not something I would ever be interested in personally, I find the indignity expressed by both providers and customers (in defense of providers) amusing.

To wit, gentlemen: have you considered the number of incalls which contain cameras? Think about it: your dealing with not only girls' safety, but also large amounts of untraceable cash; of course there are cameras, almost always. For certain with nearly every (if not every) agency, as well as most (if not all) timeshared incalls that indies go in on, there are cameras.

And be not swayed by, "it's for my safety" or, "it's just for business, and then they're all deleted" ; SP's are in this for money, thus they record for monetary concerns, and clients are in it for sexual pleasure, thus they record for sexual concerns, which is equitable in the deceit of each. While not all do it, there are those on both sides of the fence, both recording as discreetly as possible and without consent, and certainly next to none will admit it. It only takes the smallest amount of reasoning, and you will realize that we customers are recorded far more frequently than SP's are, in general.

Furthermore, a claim towards safety could be made on both sides, though a man is less likely to do so for being emasculated & shamed as a result of doing so, however I would suggest that customers are threatened/ robbed/ assaulted more frequently than the other way around, and could make a strong argument in support of my suggestion if necessary.

 

[Mrmotorscooter]

For those saying "all a gut has to do is ask for a girl that allows this?" These guys get off on the use a that the person being recorded is unaware. I had a client book me for out call. Rather than use the house, he insisted we use his motorcycle shop, & the second time I saw him, I am almost certain he recorded us: just a few things that, in hindsight gave me pause. I haven't seen him again & I am highly unlikely to!

Good point its the thrill of being sneaky that gets them off, they should go to some micros where they can windup being stars overseas without their knowledge. There was a writeup about that before.

 

[poonmiester]

In this time and age, spy cams come in all shapes and forms...
You could walk in a room and have 10 cameras in place and you would never know...
Light bulbs, motion sensors, smoke detectors, USB sticks, pens, clocks, mirrors, picture frames, night stand light.... electrical wall plugs, wall chargers, shit and if you want to, even in a Kleenex box....
so... that being said, it’s all about taking a risk while taking a risk.
My wife and I stayed in a hotel while in China, and by pure coincidence I noticed while we were getting to bed, the night light shine in the smoke detector, I found it strange to see a white bright dot, I got up and climbed on a chair and looked at it, and it was a hidden camera. We were tired anyway and just wanted to sleep, I placed a bandaid over the lens, we slept, and next morning showed the front desk a picture of the smoke detector and requested a full refund. Which they gave us no question asked. I could have caused more problems but being a white guy, get my refund and get out of there was a bonus.
Now when we walk into a hotel.... I try to do a full scan, turn radio clocks away, inspect wall plugs, and so on....

But at any rate, when we go to an incall we have no idea what is in there, and our time is limited as well, so no time to really inspect the room, that would certainly be a mood killer, and same goes for ladies on an outcall.....
it’s always a risk...

 

[Claire Monet]

While recording a session for me has no appeal and is not something I would ever be interested in personally, I find the indignity expressed by both providers and customers (in defense of providers) amusing.

To wit, gentlemen: have you considered the number of incalls which contain cameras? Think about it: your dealing with not only girls' safety, but also large amounts of untraceable cash; of course there are cameras, almost always. For certain with nearly every (if not every) agency, as well as most (if not all) timeshared incalls that indies go in on, there are cameras.

And be not swayed by, "it's for my safety" or, "it's just for business, and then they're all deleted" ; SP's are in this for money, thus they record for monetary concerns, and clients are in it for sexual pleasure, thus they record for sexual concerns, which is equitable in the deceit of each. While not all do it, there are those on both sides of the fence, both recording as discreetly as possible and without consent, and certainly next to none will admit it. It only takes the smallest amount of reasoning, and you will realize that we customers are recorded far more frequently than SP's are, in general.

Furthermore, a claim towards safety could be made on both sides, though a man is less likely to do so for being emasculated & shamed as a result of doing so, however I would suggest that customers are threatened/ robbed/ assaulted more frequently than the other way around, and could make a strong argument in support of my suggestion if necessary.

Woah. To assume that most, if not all, ladies' incalls are equipped with cameras is, imo, a far stretch of your imagination. Seeing reputable, discreet companions should ease your mind of these suspicions. We have means to screen out undesirables and shouldn't need recording devices which could be damning to our reputations and those of respectful repeat clientele.

It's horrible to think there are people out there who would partake in concealed recording, on either side.

Personally I caught one perp who spent time in jail, computers confiscated, lost his job, and had his reputation scorned.

What might be a "cheap thrill" at the time could last with you forever.

**Like Elsi said, always trust your instincts**

 

[badbadboy]

Woah. To assume that most, if not all, ladies' incalls are equipped with cameras is, imo, a far stretch of your imagination. Seeing reputable, discreet companions should ease your mind of these suspicions. We have means to screen out undesirables and shouldn't need recording devices which could be damning to our reputations and those of respectful repeat clientele.

I agree and wonder about these people that generate these statements as a matter of fact without anything to prove their claim.

In the era of #45, it's become mainstream just to make it up. Truth be damned.

 

[NEbaD]

Woah. To assume that most, if not all, ladies' incalls are equipped with cameras is, imo, a far stretch of your imagination. Seeing reputable, discreet companions should ease your mind of these suspicions. We have means to screen out undesirables and shouldn't need recording devices which could be damning to our reputations and those of respectful repeat clientele.

It's horrible to think there are people out there who would partake in concealed recording, on either side.

Think what you like, but I'm not using my imagination, and therefore I'm not stretching it; I specified agencies and shared incalls because I know this frequently occurs in these locations.

I do agree that one may avoid cameras by frequenting what you refer to as companions who are "reputable," however I by no means know this for certain, despite your having said so. It certainly seems less likely that a young independent would have cameras installed compared to an agency or organization.

I agree and wonder about these people that generate these statements as a matter of fact without anything to prove their claim.

In the era of #45, it's become mainstream just to make it up. Truth be damned.

I'm sorry, are you suggesting that I somehow provide evidence here on PERB, to "prove my claim"? Really, that's a laughable notion. How would one even go about doing that, if they wanted to? By naming specific places, so you and others could go there individually, investigate the place, then return home to log on and post, "Yep, I went there, I seen em!" ?

I'm telling you, there are cameras in lots of places, as I described. If you so much as spend 5 minutes thinking about why that is, I'm sure you can pretty much figure out why that is and that it's the truth for yourself. And each of those places records however much traffic goes in and out of them every day, far more than a handful of kooks looking to add to their own personal collection ever could.

Aside, did you ever go see her? I recall you saying you were in contact with her, and I was really curious about how that worked out.

 

[McDiver]

I do think if anyone knows of a location that does have cameras they need to post about it, so that pooners can decide from themselves if the want to avoid going to the location or not. I am not referring to general security cameras found in a lot of building, but rather cameras setup inside an apartment etc. for the purpose of recording pooners.

 

[Abbott_]

Lottsa curious folks hereabouts !

 

[Addison Cortez]

I put up a sign, and set up my camera, after I was robbed of all my work gear. I never felt the need to use it when I had guests (and if I did feel that way, they weren't allowed over lol)

My sign didn't prevent pooners from entering my suite... it seems once people see my face they know I am not going to take advantage (unless I am paid to lol)