Spring escape to Shangri-La... for interested brothers only
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Not often that a pooner gets this kind of heartwarming feedback on a report.
I enjoy diary-writing anyway, but the interest shown by several fellow PERB members spurred me on to share. If I convince at least one brother that hopping on a plane for an overseas "vacation with benefits" is really quite simple, posting my travel blog will have served its purpose.
Any pooner in reasonable health, with modest cash reserves, can do what I just did, if he sets his mind to it. Age or looks aren't important for successful play-for-pay in the Philippines, though smiling a lot and treating a lady considerately certainly are.
Lots of people in our society object to overseas pooning (and often to pooning in general). But my experience on this trip has reinforced my belief that there's nothing wrong with responsibly seeking erotic pleasure with consenting adults in countries where our economic support is most needed and appreciated.
Let me add a warning and a request. Here's the warning: once you've experienced the amazing sensuality of Filipinas, you may have trouble adjusting to everyday erotic possibilities back home.
And my request: If you, too, like to poon in far-flung places, I'd enjoy reading your dispatches from the front lines. Sounds like a few others might be interested too.
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Made it back safely...and feel amazed about how smoothly my 2-wk "spring escape" went.
Thanks are owing to the following PERB members—including the 2 or 3 mild contrarians—whose comments gave me badly needed incentive to keep posting:
Miss Melody; PeaceGuy; thedudeabides; Walk Softly; rintin6; vancity cowboy; Chest.Rockwell; Hatrick; google 123; yazoo; Fin; Tugela; Tarzen; grusse; MissingOne; manni; OldMagpye; booblover; gonzo; bill555; skyisthelimit1; TheGentleman; northvan10; myselftheother; plumbcrawl; BC Babe; summerbreeze; Cock Throppled; Ms. Sarah; badbadboy; kaled; Asianwomanlover; Justin Beaver; SFMIKE; Shteve; and ThreeMan—not to forget the 74(!) brothers who voted in my poll.
Reading this thread (a handy print-out of it) allows me to savour this vacation in my memory, when otherwise it would just be a rapidly fading blur. Having this record is also a morale boost for planning my next trip.
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A surprising number of brothers expressed interest in overseas mongering. And why not? There're lots of touring escorts—so why not traveling pooners?
But as some have mentioned, the idea of heading overseas to poon can be a little intimidating to a first-timer—I know it was to me! Perhaps I can help dispel trepidation, by capping this thread with few suggestions.
Thanks are owing to the following PERB members—including the 2 or 3 mild contrarians—whose comments gave me badly needed incentive to keep posting:
Miss Melody; PeaceGuy; thedudeabides; Walk Softly; rintin6; vancity cowboy; Chest.Rockwell; Hatrick; google 123; yazoo; Fin; Tugela; Tarzen; grusse; MissingOne; manni; OldMagpye; booblover; gonzo; bill555; skyisthelimit1; TheGentleman; northvan10; myselftheother; plumbcrawl; BC Babe; summerbreeze; Cock Throppled; Ms. Sarah; badbadboy; kaled; Asianwomanlover; Justin Beaver; SFMIKE; Shteve; and ThreeMan—not to forget the 74(!) brothers who voted in my poll.
Reading this thread (a handy print-out of it) allows me to savour this vacation in my memory, when otherwise it would just be a rapidly fading blur. Having this record is also a morale boost for planning my next trip.
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A surprising number of brothers expressed interest in overseas mongering. And why not? There're lots of touring escorts—so why not traveling pooners?
But as some have mentioned, the idea of heading overseas to poon can be a little intimidating to a first-timer—I know it was to me! Perhaps I can help dispel trepidation, by capping this thread with few suggestions.
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Suggestions that may be useful for first-time visitors to Angeles
1. According to mongering authorities like Thommo or Major Grubert, Angeles is still one of the richest (and most cost-effective) places anywhere for this hobby. It's an English-speaking environment, relatively easy to get to and surprisingly safe; and has lots of good cheap accommodation and over a hundred large and small bars full of lovely eager ladies catering to foreigners.
2. Donations for FS most commonly range from $20 to $80. Anything above $35 generally allows for an overnighter with at least 2 pops (but make sure you clarify in advance how long you expect the girl to stay). I spent about $2500 in total on this 2-wk trip, including 17 poons.
2. Your single biggest expense is likely to be airfare. I've found the staff at www.flightcentre.ca very helpful. They found a cheaper and more convenient flight for me than I was able to locate myself through such websites as cheapflights.com etc.
3. My advice: better bypass Manila on your first trip. The grimness of this city of about 20 million can be overwhelming and demoralizing. Fly directly to Clark Airport, located just a mile or two from Fields & Perimeter in Angeles. The jeepney from the airport costs P100, a taxi P350. (1 Can$ = approx. 40 Pesos)
4. You can look up Angeles hotels on websites like www.agoda.com or www.hotels.com, or even better: join http://www.philippines-addicts.com for free. The wealth of info on this site in phenomenal, and you can avail yourself of their hotel bookings info.
5. My suggestion: book a hotel with a swimming pool. Book in for 2 nights and, once you've got your bearings, either extend your stay or change to a more preferred hotel. There are lots and lots of hotels, so even if you don't have a booking, chances are your preferred hotel will have vacancies. (Sorry I'm not giving away the name of my favorite hotel. Got to keep some secrets.)
6. Just stroll along Fields and Perimeter, by day or by night, to get a feel for what's happening. If you go out on Perimeter at night, you may want to bring a flashlight for a few darker spots. But I've never had any security issues.
7. Visit at least 5 bars, big and small; chat with a few waitresses and dancers (your waitress will call any dancer you want down from the stage); buy the girl you're chatting with a lady drink; and then just offer to "barfine" or "early-work-release" a girl, and take her back to your hotel. Note: the convenient language of "barfining" has been replaced, in some bars, by the more circumspect language of "early work release.")
8. If you're satisfied with the service—as will almost always be the case with Filipina bargirls—tip from P200 to P500. Only if the service is mind-blowing, tip more. Don't be stingy, but don't ruin the market either.
9. It's a good idea to read the the "Complete Guide to Angeles City" on www.philippines-addicts.com. Sign in for free, and then click on "Philippines Newbie Advice." There're also free chapters of the Asian Escapades' "Angeles Survival Guide" here: http://www.asianescapades.com/ I love the writings on this site and found it worthwhile to join. Other good sites packed with Angeles info are Thommo at www.whorist.com/ or Major Grubert at http://www.major-grubert-international.com/html/philippines_____.html
10. If you aren't constrained by a tight budget, you might consider doing what I did on my first visit: hire a guide. For US$1500 (which includes all local travel expenses and hotels plus breakfasts for 10 days), the guide will take you to mongering hotspots—not just in Angeles, but also in Manila, Subic & Puerto Galera— you'd not have discovered on your own...and save you from newbie mistakes. If you're a brother with reviews, PM me, and I may be able to put you in touch.
11. Filipina SPs are notorious for not having condoms—and what condoms they bring won't comfortably fit most Western guys. Always take you own condoms along on the trip (or buy the right size at the Love Shop on Fields). Lube and a small vibrator go over great too, with most Filipinas.
12. Don't be intimitated by sensationalized reports of bar raids. These are relatively isolated events in a city with over a hundred flourishing bars that offer sex. The reason for a handful of raids in the last 6 months has been twofold: (a) corrupt police which raided bars that didn't want to pay sufficient "protection money"; and (b) bars that were identified (by spies of an outfit that calls itself International Justice Mission) as employing minors. http://www.ijm.org/articles/ijm-pampanga-girls-rescued-abusive-bar-easter-weekend-0
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If your life needs a massive pleasure injection—as mine periodically does—you could probably do worse than consider a pooning spree overseas. Just my humble opinion.
1. According to mongering authorities like Thommo or Major Grubert, Angeles is still one of the richest (and most cost-effective) places anywhere for this hobby. It's an English-speaking environment, relatively easy to get to and surprisingly safe; and has lots of good cheap accommodation and over a hundred large and small bars full of lovely eager ladies catering to foreigners.
2. Donations for FS most commonly range from $20 to $80. Anything above $35 generally allows for an overnighter with at least 2 pops (but make sure you clarify in advance how long you expect the girl to stay). I spent about $2500 in total on this 2-wk trip, including 17 poons.
2. Your single biggest expense is likely to be airfare. I've found the staff at www.flightcentre.ca very helpful. They found a cheaper and more convenient flight for me than I was able to locate myself through such websites as cheapflights.com etc.
3. My advice: better bypass Manila on your first trip. The grimness of this city of about 20 million can be overwhelming and demoralizing. Fly directly to Clark Airport, located just a mile or two from Fields & Perimeter in Angeles. The jeepney from the airport costs P100, a taxi P350. (1 Can$ = approx. 40 Pesos)
4. You can look up Angeles hotels on websites like www.agoda.com or www.hotels.com, or even better: join http://www.philippines-addicts.com for free. The wealth of info on this site in phenomenal, and you can avail yourself of their hotel bookings info.
5. My suggestion: book a hotel with a swimming pool. Book in for 2 nights and, once you've got your bearings, either extend your stay or change to a more preferred hotel. There are lots and lots of hotels, so even if you don't have a booking, chances are your preferred hotel will have vacancies. (Sorry I'm not giving away the name of my favorite hotel. Got to keep some secrets.
)6. Just stroll along Fields and Perimeter, by day or by night, to get a feel for what's happening. If you go out on Perimeter at night, you may want to bring a flashlight for a few darker spots. But I've never had any security issues.
7. Visit at least 5 bars, big and small; chat with a few waitresses and dancers (your waitress will call any dancer you want down from the stage); buy the girl you're chatting with a lady drink; and then just offer to "barfine" or "early-work-release" a girl, and take her back to your hotel. Note: the convenient language of "barfining" has been replaced, in some bars, by the more circumspect language of "early work release.")
8. If you're satisfied with the service—as will almost always be the case with Filipina bargirls—tip from P200 to P500. Only if the service is mind-blowing, tip more. Don't be stingy, but don't ruin the market either.
9. It's a good idea to read the the "Complete Guide to Angeles City" on www.philippines-addicts.com. Sign in for free, and then click on "Philippines Newbie Advice." There're also free chapters of the Asian Escapades' "Angeles Survival Guide" here: http://www.asianescapades.com/ I love the writings on this site and found it worthwhile to join. Other good sites packed with Angeles info are Thommo at www.whorist.com/ or Major Grubert at http://www.major-grubert-international.com/html/philippines_____.html
10. If you aren't constrained by a tight budget, you might consider doing what I did on my first visit: hire a guide. For US$1500 (which includes all local travel expenses and hotels plus breakfasts for 10 days), the guide will take you to mongering hotspots—not just in Angeles, but also in Manila, Subic & Puerto Galera— you'd not have discovered on your own...and save you from newbie mistakes. If you're a brother with reviews, PM me, and I may be able to put you in touch.
11. Filipina SPs are notorious for not having condoms—and what condoms they bring won't comfortably fit most Western guys. Always take you own condoms along on the trip (or buy the right size at the Love Shop on Fields). Lube and a small vibrator go over great too, with most Filipinas.
12. Don't be intimitated by sensationalized reports of bar raids. These are relatively isolated events in a city with over a hundred flourishing bars that offer sex. The reason for a handful of raids in the last 6 months has been twofold: (a) corrupt police which raided bars that didn't want to pay sufficient "protection money"; and (b) bars that were identified (by spies of an outfit that calls itself International Justice Mission) as employing minors. http://www.ijm.org/articles/ijm-pampanga-girls-rescued-abusive-bar-easter-weekend-0
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If your life needs a massive pleasure injection—as mine periodically does—you could probably do worse than consider a pooning spree overseas. Just my humble opinion.
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tant, just wanted to express the appreciation I am sure the majority of the readers of this thread would have. thank you for a most informative, entertaining and reflective insight into the nature of a pooning holiday in the Philippines.
your unselfish sharing of your information is of great benefit to the members here. hopefully more follow your example and share their experience and insight into their respective adventures.
welcome back as well, nice to hear you have returned unscathed from your journeys.
your unselfish sharing of your information is of great benefit to the members here. hopefully more follow your example and share their experience and insight into their respective adventures.
welcome back as well, nice to hear you have returned unscathed from your journeys.
welcome back, Tant!
another great chapter to your pooner memoir and the instantaneous playback added an experiential dimension
that was different from the last trip.
hopefully, you won't go through the Filipina withdrawal syndrome as you get back to report and sample the local ladies.
that sister duo was hot! I wish you had a blog complete with visuals, like your buddy Thomo and yazoo.
to satisfy a raging boner (on a daily basis) in the company of a nubile at your tender age is a great inspiration for us
mature pooners.
thanks again.
another great chapter to your pooner memoir and the instantaneous playback added an experiential dimension
that was different from the last trip.
hopefully, you won't go through the Filipina withdrawal syndrome as you get back to report and sample the local ladies.
that sister duo was hot! I wish you had a blog complete with visuals, like your buddy Thomo and yazoo.
to satisfy a raging boner (on a daily basis) in the company of a nubile at your tender age is a great inspiration for us
mature pooners.
thanks again.
something to think about or a suggestion for the interested brothers... we should tag along with tantalizeme next time so he can take us to the city... tell us where to eat, stay, etc.. and we all go our own adventure and meet up with tantalizeme on a set date and go to another city and repeat...
that would be awesome....
that would be awesome....
Thanks tantalize me for sharing his experience in all its details, it was super fun to read. Now I wonder if there are similar places that you can recommend in South America or Eastern Europe?
Sure good for the old ego to get such nice feedback...and no personal acrimony!
Hey jungle snake,
Glad to hear, you liked my dispatches from the Philippine mongering front.
Had great fun myself writing this diary. Can`t poon non-stop all day anyway, and this was one constructive way to fill up time. But looking at this thread also helps steel my resolve to get my ass back over there as soon as circumstances (and cash) permit.
Would love to encourage a brother or two to do likewise.
And, in my fondest dreams, I`d like to think, this sort of diary might even convince the odd skeptic that mainstream monger travel—involving only adult sex workers—can be a perfectly meaningful and honorable pursuit, both personally satisfying and ethically defensible.
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You`re right, brother— there`re other superb mongering sites in this world, including lots in South America & Eastern Europe. If you`re interested in these two areas and new to the wide weird wonderful world of monger travel, you might begin by perusing the following resources:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/
http://www.worldsexguide.com/
http://www.wikisexguide.com/
The wikisexguide—in addition to informative writeups about most global monger hotspots—also has a fascinating global price list for SPs: http://www.wikisexguide.com/wiki/Prostitution_Prices
As a broad rule (with many exceptions), I`d say the lower a particular country`s SP prices, probably the poorer and needier the women there, and the more appreciative of your cash infusion. So it`s win-win: they get economic help, and you`re likely to get above-average service at budget rates.
While reading about target areas of interest, you might want to start a scrap book of notes & printouts of useful information, such as maps, going rates (you`ll usually be asked for more!) and common pitfalls to watch out for.
As for a general discussion of issues related to monger travel, you might want to keep an eye on this thread—hope more brothers will contribute their experience and perspective: https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...sion-thread-a-chance-to-get-it-off-your-chest
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As for myself, I think I`ll confine most of my future travel to the Philippines and other SE Asian countries. Seem to have caught a bad case of a dreaded disease for which there`s only one treatment. The disease is Filipina addiction—which only cavorting with beautiful Filipina bargirls can temporarily cure.
Hey jungle snake,
Glad to hear, you liked my dispatches from the Philippine mongering front.
Had great fun myself writing this diary. Can`t poon non-stop all day anyway, and this was one constructive way to fill up time. But looking at this thread also helps steel my resolve to get my ass back over there as soon as circumstances (and cash) permit.
Would love to encourage a brother or two to do likewise.
And, in my fondest dreams, I`d like to think, this sort of diary might even convince the odd skeptic that mainstream monger travel—involving only adult sex workers—can be a perfectly meaningful and honorable pursuit, both personally satisfying and ethically defensible.
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You`re right, brother— there`re other superb mongering sites in this world, including lots in South America & Eastern Europe. If you`re interested in these two areas and new to the wide weird wonderful world of monger travel, you might begin by perusing the following resources:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/
http://www.worldsexguide.com/
http://www.wikisexguide.com/
The wikisexguide—in addition to informative writeups about most global monger hotspots—also has a fascinating global price list for SPs: http://www.wikisexguide.com/wiki/Prostitution_Prices
As a broad rule (with many exceptions), I`d say the lower a particular country`s SP prices, probably the poorer and needier the women there, and the more appreciative of your cash infusion. So it`s win-win: they get economic help, and you`re likely to get above-average service at budget rates.
While reading about target areas of interest, you might want to start a scrap book of notes & printouts of useful information, such as maps, going rates (you`ll usually be asked for more!) and common pitfalls to watch out for.
As for a general discussion of issues related to monger travel, you might want to keep an eye on this thread—hope more brothers will contribute their experience and perspective: https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...sion-thread-a-chance-to-get-it-off-your-chest
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As for myself, I think I`ll confine most of my future travel to the Philippines and other SE Asian countries. Seem to have caught a bad case of a dreaded disease for which there`s only one treatment. The disease is Filipina addiction—which only cavorting with beautiful Filipina bargirls can temporarily cure.
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there's NO cure for it tant... only temporary relief from the symptomsAs for myself, I think I'll confine most of my future travel to the Philippines and other SE Asian countries. Seem to have caught a bad case of a dreaded disease for which there's only one treatment. The disease is Filipina addiction—which only cavorting with beautiful Filipina bargirls can temporarily cure.
btw, i asked you a question somewhere a few pages back, about your opinion as to why so few of the ladies in the phillipines seem to be accepting of greek pleasures? is it the catholic church influence?
Could be, as i've heard, it is not much a part of their culture relative to say, Vancouver, Brazil, or San Fransisco. After all, they are Catholics who believe in making babies. Therefore anal sex may be seen as "unnatural".there's NO cure for it tant... only temporary relief from the symptoms
btw, i asked you a question somewhere a few pages back, about your opinion as to why so few of the ladies in the phillipines seem to be accepting of greek pleasures? is it the catholic church influence?
Similarly local gals in Thailand are not raised or practiced in the ways of farang style kissing.
Nevertheless, ladies in these 3rd world nations who are desperate enough for business will adapt themselves to their client's needs. Most likely not the more stunning specimens.
if,by "farang style kissing" you mean LFK&DFK, I didn't experience any reticence on their part...a case of YMMV, perhaps?
My comment was based on [1] personal experience with dozens of P4P ladies from 2007-2014 & [2] those reported on ISG by about 20 other guys who have alleged to have had sessions with SP gals in the country. A search on kissing there might discover the discussions on the subject.
I would include not only FK but lip to lip mouth only (no tongue) kissing.
Certainly YMMV, depending on you, her, & multiple factors. I suppose they would all want to lock lips with Don Juan or Justin Bieber.
IME given a choice between kissing & performing a BBBJ, Thai girls will go for the cock 95% of the time.
Interestingly, almost all Filipinas I've met—upwards of 50 now—were avid kissers.
Now Greek is another story. I'm not sure it's their Catholic upbringing as much as fear of potential messiness that would embarrass them. I'm sure, few Filipinas would ever dream of investing their precious cash in enema kits, to prepare for Greek.
But I'll continue my anal quest, undeterred. Have just booked my next Asia trip, this time 2 months—which is all I can spare, time-wise and financially. I'm green with envy when I think of Lenny's year-long exploits.
Hope the military government in Thailand isn't squelching your fun, Lenny. Plan to follow in your footsteps in BKK later this year—unless there's a civil war.
my sample is, admittedly,small.
my 1st experience in LOS(Land of Smiles)was in 1989,as a high-schooler.quite an adventure,worth a thread of its own,lol.I was stupid enough to go bareback
but fortunate enough not to get any hideous social disease.
in the 25 years since I've visited often,both business&holiday,and have pooned in Bangkok,Pattaya,Phuket(Patong&Karen Beaches)Ko Samui,Hua Hin,Chiang Mai
and Nong Kai.
might as well include crossing into Laos as well,Vientiane&Luang Prabang.
in the 25 yrs I've seen approx. 200 girls,focussing on the late teens-early twenties types,sometimes going as "old" as 26.
in my limited experience I've found very few who didn't want to kiss,and kiss deeply,and very few who didn't want to "smoke"(BBBJ)
having said that,I think Vietnamese girls are the hottest,but I've only been there twice,but I hope to return soon.
IME roughly 90% of dozens of Canadian SP's were agreeable to smooching. With Thais it was more like 50% & quite a few were so rough (nearly piercing the skin) my lips were sometimes sore for days.
I also experienced sucking face with a handful of Vietnamese & felt they were more gentle & into it than the Thais. This was not when i visited VN, though, as there are reports of LE there beating foreigners into a pulp who they catch in a hotel room with a VN national.
PI gals are well known for their GFE, which is considered the best in Asia if not the planet. I suppose it may also help to get their motor going if you are a handsome Duan Juan type with sex toys, like Mr. T.
When in Thailand i have none of these advantages, never perform DATY or even massage the ladies, so it's no wonder an old guy like me has so little success in the kissing department with girls (ave age 27) young enough to be my daughters or grand daughters. Moreover i usually go for the more stunning types with a Paris Hilton attitude who think they qualify as "Asia's Next Top Model" material.
With the possibility of civil war & the recent tightening of immigration policies in LOS, it may soon be time to move onto new pastures. Fortunately the beauties of SEA, the girls of VN, can be found all over Asia. And the earth's most stunning - the HKG 141 type Chinese & online porn like Japanese - are only a hop & a skip away.
I also experienced sucking face with a handful of Vietnamese & felt they were more gentle & into it than the Thais. This was not when i visited VN, though, as there are reports of LE there beating foreigners into a pulp who they catch in a hotel room with a VN national.
PI gals are well known for their GFE, which is considered the best in Asia if not the planet. I suppose it may also help to get their motor going if you are a handsome Duan Juan type with sex toys, like Mr. T.
When in Thailand i have none of these advantages, never perform DATY or even massage the ladies, so it's no wonder an old guy like me has so little success in the kissing department with girls (ave age 27) young enough to be my daughters or grand daughters. Moreover i usually go for the more stunning types with a Paris Hilton attitude who think they qualify as "Asia's Next Top Model" material.
With the possibility of civil war & the recent tightening of immigration policies in LOS, it may soon be time to move onto new pastures. Fortunately the beauties of SEA, the girls of VN, can be found all over Asia. And the earth's most stunning - the HKG 141 type Chinese & online porn like Japanese - are only a hop & a skip away.
with the new prostitution laws advancing, we should get tant to put together travel tour packages for offshore destinations
no doubt popularity would be on the increase
no doubt popularity would be on the increase
Based on my experience in Vietnam (including dealing with Vietnamese LE), I would question any suggestion of beating foreigners to pulp. I think that is highly unlikely as in my experience they handle foreigners with kid gloves and are very sensitive to how they may be viewed internationally. Now, there may be one or two rogue elements (which is true anywhere), but outside of that I think it is highly unlikely (unless things have changed recently).
