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grusse

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I was thinking we could do with a sports thread.......football,hockey,basketball,diving(aka soccer) whatever you feel like.

I'll start with cpl observations...

Houston Astros have been vilified for their cheating in the 2017 World Series,and rightly so.I was under the impression this was done via their scoreboard
in their home park?
In that '17 WS they won 2 games, including the deciding Game 7 in Dodger Stadium.Did they somehow manage to cheat in the road games as well?

NFL NFC looks to be close with 4 or 5 teams capable of going to the SB.
If the Seahawks can improve their defense, they might be the team to beat?
Or, Tampa Bay could become the 1st team to be in a SB in their home stadium?

AFC looks to me to be KC and the rest(how did they lose to the Raiders?)
Yes, the Steelers will soon be 8-0,but I still think KC is better.

6-10, maybe even 5-11 might be enough to win the NFC (L)East, and get a home playoff game.

Covid could still derail the NFL, but let's keep fingers crossed.

NHL starting by early January seems to be a bit "optimistic", what do you think?

Hoping for lots of input,ideas,arguments(let's keep it civil,lol)
Let's hear from you!
 
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Steelers - Chiefs.

gonna be fun.
 

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The NFL is too slow. Commericials and time outs have killed it. Players are overpaid.
NHL is still good. Again players are overpaid.
NBA, definitily overpaid performers.
Sports come from the desire to do battle. Where where the sports in the 1800s. As our society changed from war to peace, sports filled in the time. Most sports have body contact, NFL, NHL, Soccer, Baseball (limited), Wrestling etc.
Funny thing you can cheat at war, but not in sports.... but both are rooted in violence.....
Fighting is slowly being eliminated, why, because someone in society wants it that way... Maybe a way to stop young children from being bullies.... which is not a good thing. Or its a good way to control society...

While playing recreational sports past college, I know why some very talented people, did not make the big time games. ATTITUDE, and TEMPERS. But then there are the guys/gals that showed immense talents and didn't pursue it, due to family/financial considerations.

Today for someone to get into the big leagues, its about getting the right opportunities at sport camps and playing on the best teams. Unfortunately now its only affluent parents that can put their kids through these programs.
The other side of kids sports is how the coach plays his/her players. Better players get more field time, in games compared to mediocore players due to the winn model..... Coach wants to win... win... and win.....

Really kids can't be kids anymore....

But sports are the prime reason, we don't have kids becoming doctors and lawyers anymore.
Sports are easier to do, then 8 - 10 years of university schooling... And yes the jerks who say their kids spend alot of their youth training in their teenage years to become atheletes, are full of it. The hours to study and get good grades in high school and university are alot more than jocks strutting their stuff. A doctor works until he retires (that 30 to 40 years compared to average of 10-15 for pro atheletes).

Who helps society more, doctors and lawyers or sports players.....

The reality is that pro sports are a distraction/novelty for the public. They do not contribute to fundalmental aid or help society as a whole.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy watching sports and playing sports, but I find them hyped up. As I get older I wonder about the contribution to society that they have.
 
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cpl surprises this week in the NFL,imo.
Bills looked impressive in beating Seattle,Seahawks defense a real concern.

Who would've thought NO would destry TB?

And the woeful Cowboys threw a scare into Pittsburgh,threatened to end the unbeaten streak.

We lost Howie Meeker and Alex Trebek,I think on the same day?Sad day.
 

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I did NOT know, that Bill Laimbeer could dunk, until I saw footage of it.

Same with Jack Sikma, Blair Rasmussen, DelDante West, Larry Smith, Mahmoud Abdul-Raif, and Spud Webb.
fyi..Spud Webb won the Slam Dunk contest back in 86
 

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I HATE the Boston Celtics!

But, I really only hate two members from that organization: Larry Bird and Red Auerbach.

I actually feel ok about many others: Kevin McHale, Dave Cowens, Bob Cousy, and the now late Tom Heinsohn.
curious as to why you hate Bird&Auerbach?
 

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Masters in mid-Nov.,Stanley Cup in late-Sept.,as Alice said ,"it's getting curiouser and curiouser"

the World Series wasn't far off its usual post-season schedule,and was actually almost spot-on to when it was played when only the NL&AL pennant winners were involved.
In every other aspect it was a totally different experience.Some of the differences will almost certainly be gone,i.e. the 7-inning double-headers, starting a runner on 2nd base in extra innings.
I read somewhere that the NL will keep the DH going forward?
good idea,imo, cuz I can't think of another sport where opposing conferences have a significant difference in a rule.
One thing that I'd like to see gain traction but don't think will happen is to have the World Series played in warm-weather locales.
Northern cities in late Oct,early Nov, are NOT conducive to baseball at its best.The guys from the Caribbean area and Latin America are rugged up like they're going on an Antarctic expedition.
I recall Whitey Herzog writing in the 80's that he was in favor of this.
the opposition to this is that fans would be deprived of seeing their teams in the WS.Whitey pointed out that many fans miss out anyway as corporations, sponsors,etc. get priority for WS tickets.

I don't follow College football closely but even I can see that covid is throwing wrenches into the various scheduling.
The rankings usually cause arguments, controversy,etc. and will probably be even more contentious this season.

Lots to watch this wkend,Seahawks-Rams high on the list.

Enjoy!
 

g eazy

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is it just me, or from looking at Kim Ng's resume, she would've been hired as a GM sooner if she were a guy?
 

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Tim, add Willie Mays to that list.Was sad watching him in the '73 WS.

g eazy, you're almost certainly correct.
 

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Looking at the NFL.....Tampa Bay defeats Green Bay, GB defeats New Orleans, and NO defeats TB, bit of a merry-go-round.
Also NFC West is a 3-way tie with Seahawks,Rams, and Cards all at 6-3.
Seems like any of those 6 could win the NFC?

In the AFC this Sunday it almost seems too easy for 9-0 Pittsburgh vs 1-8 Jacksonville.On paper it's no-contest, but we all know what puppies
do on paper.
As much as they're denying it publicly, how can the Steelers not be looking ahead to hosting the Ravens on Thanksgiving?
Let's also not forget the Jags gave the Packers a good game..at Lambeau.I think it might be closer than many expect.

Sunday night's KC-Vegas re-match s/b a beauty.The Raiders' bus driver doing a victory lap around Arrowhead only adds a bit of fuel
to this one.

Antonio Brown in the news,again, for being a jerk,this time damaging a security camera at the complex where he lives.
Add him to the "Million-dollar-body-10cent-brain" club that has,in the past,admitted T.O.(he's my quarterback,sob)
Keyshaun(sp?) and, let's not forget, Ochocinco.

Lastly,what are your thoughts on the NHL retros on display now?
I admit to being a traditionalist and favoring a simple home&away set(hello, Yankees&Dodgers)but I get it that 3rd jerseys,special
jerseys,etc. sell and $ speaks.

Enjoy tomorrow's Seahawks-Cards game!
 

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What's with NY Giants offensive line coach Marc Karamba, getting into fisticuffs with his head coach Ron Judge?
Apparently Judge brought in the new guy as a “consultant” (and it was done last week without knowing). When he told Columbo, he wasn’t happy and it led to the alleged fight. Then Columbo was fired.
 

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Went to Brigham Young.

Brigham Young, now there was a guy who knew how to enjoy himself. It is said that he had 55 wives

He wanted to have a different woman brought to him every night, and his instructions were always the same, and they were:

"I don't care how you bring 'em, just make sure you bring 'em young."
 
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The NFL is too slow. Commericials and time outs have killed it....

Who helps society more, doctors and lawyers or sports players.....

The reality is that pro sports are a distraction/novelty for the public....
Great post 80W!

I too tire of all the timeouts, delays, and commercials in pro-sports broadcasts. So I have mastered The Art of PVR Live [TAPL]. Lol. Seriously, I set my PVR to record almost all the NFL games, then start watching about 1/2 way through. My thumb relaxes gently on the Advance 30 Secs button (the God key), and suddenly delays, commercials, and quarter breaks evaporate with a triple-tap. If it’s not a Big Game, I will single tap the God key as soon as a play ends, and almost immediately see the next play. If I miss a play, my muscle memory kicks in and hits the Rewind 15 Secs button (the Angel key) without me even thinking about it. It’s like driving my car and realizing I just arrived home without even thinking about driving. With the God key and the Angel key, I can watch all the NFL games live-ish in a few hours. Get my football fix for the week.

I am Good with pro athletes contribution to society. They give us something beyond ourselves to care about. They entertain us, and top entertainers in most fields can make a lot of money. It’s also a meritocracy in that the best players and coaches get a shot and they must deliver or perish. I see lots of kids playing lots of sports and that’s good, but only a very few will have the talent, mindset, and perseverance to earn opportunities to play in the big show. But it is possible. Case in point: Chase Claypool. Good for him, good on him!

To me, Pro Athletes are like entertainment doctors and anti-boredom lawyers. They are helping me get through this pandemic. And That is a worthy contribution in my books.

-Punt.
 

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I'm 5'10".

Russell Wilson is 5'10.5", won a Super Bowl, and will make zillions of dollars.

Allen Iverson, some claim that he is actually 5'10", as opposed to 6'0". He was an MVP and made tens of millions.

Drew Brees is barely 6'0", and his resume speaks for itself. His bank account, too.

Brian Giles is 5'10", and HE hit 35-40 home runs a year, and made $10 million a year.

Edgar Martinez (who I met in the Edgar Martinez Cantina at then Safeco Field, when he visited during a game) is 5'11". He hit 25-30 home runs, and made $10 million a season, in his prime.

These guys are not much bigger than me. Yet, look at what they accomplished, and earned.

What do THEY have, that I don't?

Why can't I hit 30 home runs, throw a 70 yard pass, complete 70% of my football passes, or slam dunk and score 30 points per game?

HWHL,
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This is an intriguing discussion on its own. Professional athletes usually have the perfect storm of situations to arrive at where they ultimately are. Parents, coaches, friends/level of play, financial environment at home, personal drive and determination, patience, etc. There are some very interesting books and scientific studies on the topic.

Tim, it's easy to romanticize the fame and fortune of a professional athlete, but I'm 99% sure you excel in some parts of life where they do not. The media glamourizes the things that they think you want, but at the end of the day, Brees, Wilson, Giles, AI, et al. still have to eat, shit, sleep, and wake up the next day, no different than you or I.
 

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I was thinking we could do with a sports thread.......football,hockey,basketball,diving(aka soccer) whatever you feel like.

I'll start with cpl observations...

Houston Astros have been vilified for their cheating in the 2017 World Series,and rightly so.I was under the impression this was done via their scoreboard
in their home park?
In that '17 WS they won 2 games, including the deciding Game 7 in Dodger Stadium.Did they somehow manage to cheat in the road games as well?

NFL NFC looks to be close with 4 or 5 teams capable of going to the SB.
If the Seahawks can improve their defense, they might be the team to beat?
Or, Tampa Bay could become the 1st team to be in a SB in their home stadium?

AFC looks to me to be KC and the rest(how did they lose to the Raiders?)
Yes, the Steelers will soon be 8-0,but I still think KC is better.

6-10, maybe even 5-11 might be enough to win the NFC (L)East, and get a home playoff game.

Covid could still derail the NFL, but let's keep fingers crossed.

NHL starting by early January seems to be a bit "optimistic", what do you think?

Hoping for lots of input,ideas,arguments(let's keep it civil,lol)
Let's hear from you!
Looking forward to the world juniors. Don't see the NHL starting in January not with how hard this 2nd wave is hitting.
 

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Did I see that right?

Tom Brady! Gets his pass batted back to him, and he THROWS it again, getting himself a penalty? Guess it happens even to the best.

I learned when Dave Kreig got a pass batter back to him, he caught it, and ran the ball forward. The announcer said, that in that scenario, you can't pass it again. (Only one forward pass allowed per play).

Hard to believe.
I think Andy Dalton "completed" a pass to himself yesterday.....the pass was blocked backwards, bounced off a Cowboy,into Dalton's hands, lost 2 or 3 yards on the play.
Rams win tonight puts pressure on Seahawks to win vs Rams when next they meet.

Hard to believe it's not a typo when you see Philly at 3-6-1 in 1st place,and the other 3 at 3-7.whoever ends up 1st will get a home playoff game!

Agree with luvsdaty(so do I, btw,lol)re NHL, but also wonder if covid might derail the jr tournament?
 

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Robinson Cano, tested positive for PEDs.

Will miss the entire 2021 season. Forfeits $34 million USD. What a genius!
As a diehard Mets fan who can't stand this washed up scrub, would I be a dick to say I am not unhappy that this happened? He has no range in the field, can't and won't run, and isn't nearly the hitter he once was. Mets have plenty of good infield options. This is addition by subtraction. I just hope he retires.
 
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