SP Visits & Blood Tests Revisited

[pison]

I should have read this thread before I started this hobby.. https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?170844-Discussion-Retiring-from-pooning-because-of-blood-donation


I went the other day and was told by the nurse I can`t donate until 12 months later too.
Whats more ridiculous is, I went to see my regular SP telling her I am thinking of quitting this hobby because I can`t donate blood anymore, she`s like, "but my blood is clean, you can still go ahead and lie to the nurse and donate". Well, I guess that really help in making me make up my mind to stop visiting her.

 

[papillion]

Once bitten, twice shy... I imagine it has something to do with the tainted blood scandal the Red Cross has been through in the past.

Partially true.
The Red Cross under tested blood donations in the past which resulted in people recieving transfusions getting Hep, HIV, etc.
Can. Blood Services promptly over-reacted to ensure the those mistakes don't re-occur. It's discrimanatory but that's life

 

[sdw]

Heh, you can sell plasma in the US. You can make a mint if you've had the anthrax shot.

I would think there would be an over abundance of people with vaccinations in the "pusser shot" area. It was administered in the first week of basic training to every recruit.

Of Course, a person that was given "pusser shots" isn't going to be permitted to donate blood. (spent time out of country)

Here's a link to the poster with the questions on it. http://www.blood.ca/CentreApps/Internet/UW_V502_MainEngine.nsf/resources/Eligibility/$file/ROD2012-12-12.pdf

 

[nickcan]

she's like, "but my blood is clean, you can still go ahead and lie to the nurse and donate". Well, I guess that really help in making me make up my mind to stop visiting her.

What do you think she is going to say, I might have caught something from a client because .....?
It's a business and SP's need income flow.

 

[lenny]

I should have read this thread before I started this hobby.. I went the other day and was told by the nurse I can't donate until 12 months later too.
Whats more ridiculous is, I went to see my regular SP telling her I am thinking of quitting this hobby because I can't donate blood anymore, she's like, "but my blood is clean, you can still go ahead and lie to the nurse and donate". Well, I guess that really help in making me make up my mind to stop visiting her.

If donating blood is that important to you, that's obviously your choice. I can think of other ways to "contribute to society" without giving up the pleasures in life (hobbying) that i enjoy most.

For example poster Tantalizeme often practices philanthropy by providing employment for & giving extremely generous gifts (tips) to overseas ladies in need.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/philanthropy

PS...i was recently tested negative for HIV after engaging in many long sessions of SBBFS with street working P4P gals in VCR, SG & LOS over the past several years.

 

[overdone]

For example poster Tantalizeme often practices philanthropy by providing employment for & giving extremely generous gifts (tips) to overseas ladies in need.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/philanthropy

lol, yes, a couple of hours work sucking cock for $40 bucks

where's the nobel form ound:

all that money given without anything in return, the true meaning of philanthropy

toblerones, the new gift of the modern philanthropist

 

[lenny]

all that money given without anything in return, the true meaning of philanthropy

In the case of generous gifts after sessions, way beyond what was owed, without intending to ever see the lady again? What would a hobbyist have to gain from that or get in return? Could that not be philanthropic, according to the definitions referenced?

That can be considered a charitable donation just as much as giving blood to the blood bank or monetary gifts to any charity you can think of. Not tax deductible though ;

 

[nickcan]

If donating blood is that important to you, that's obviously your choice. I can think of other ways to "contribute to society" without giving up the pleasures in life (hobbying) that i enjoy most.

For example poster Tantalizeme often practices philanthropy by providing employment for & giving extremely generous gifts (tips) to overseas ladies in need.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/philanthropy

PS...i was recently tested negative for HIV after engaging in many long sessions of SBBFS with street working P4P gals in VCR, SG & LOS over the past several years.

Long time no posts Lenny, pooning in Singapore (SG?), Phillipines like Tant?

 

[lenny]

Long time no posts Lenny, pooning in Singapore (SG?), Phillipines like Tant?

I've been in SEA for a year, including 5 months in the Geylang RLD area of Singapore LY, 2 months in Hanoi TY & the rest in BKK. Did no pooning in HN, but SG has stunning VN gals (from HN & HCMC) for as little as 25 SG dollars a pop.

Did extensive research into Manila & AC in the PI & have never felt quite comfortable going there, as much as it has to offer a sex tourist. Sir Tants hiring of a guide, though, could help to avoid some of the various issues there. Recently, though, i've been leaning more to PP in Cambodia, Kuala Lumpur & Penang (Malaysia), as possible alternates to the 3 aforementioned destinations i've been to.

BTW BC med allows one to retain coverage for up to 2 continuous years outside of Canada, once every 5 years.

 

[nickcan]

If donating blood is that important to you, that's obviously your choice. I can think of other ways to "contribute to society" without giving up the pleasures in life (hobbying) that i enjoy most.

For example poster Tantalizeme often practices philanthropy by providing employment for & giving extremely generous gifts (tips) to overseas ladies in need.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/philanthropy

PS...i was recently tested negative for HIV after engaging in many long sessions of SBBFS with street working P4P gals in VCR, SG & LOS over the past several years.

How do you enjoy bareback sex with SP's especially in Asia where Tant says the price of condoms is too much and lots of SP's do bareback?
The fear of catching disease would kill any enjoyment out of it for me.

While I think there are beautiful Asians my preference to poon would be South America and Eastern Europe.
Need some curves and boobs while most Asians are lacking.
Is it for the cheap prices only?

 

[lenny]

How do you enjoy bareback sex with SP's especially in Asia where Tant says the price of condoms is too much and lots of SP's do bareback?
The fear of catching disease would kill any enjoyment out of it for me.

While I think there are beautiful Asians my preference to poon would be South America and Eastern Europe.
Need some curves and boobs while most Asians are lacking.
Is it for the cheap prices only?

I'm circumcised, use bug killing coconut oil as a barrier & lube & often have my regular partners HIV tested. It seems in Thailand & SG most P4P girls usually use condoms for genital intercourse. In Catholic PI that may not be the case, yet reported HIV rates are very low there. Most PI guys are cut, few practice risky gay sex or are IDU. OTOH probably most VCR bar BB hookups do not involve guys that have had the operation & there is a lot of drug use & homosexuality in VCR.

The love of the looks of Asians may be an acquired taste for some. In Siam i enjoy the eyes, the abundance of slim short bodies, the full lips, the long straight jet black hair, attitudes untainted by feminism, the willingness to serve & please. Quite a few ladies there colour their hair or use cosmetic contact lenses. If it's big boobs you are after, Geylang Rd was lined with white skinned bustys from PRC for 50 SG dollars a shot. Neither do i have difficulty finding sex workers with sizeable knockers in BKK.

 

[google_123]

I doubt the reported #'s for HIV are correct. What gov't would want to scare away a lot of revenue? By saying this have an hiv outbreak

 

[overdone]

In the case of generous gifts after sessions, way beyond what was owed, without intending to ever see the lady again? What would a hobbyist have to gain from that or get in return? Could that not be philanthropic, according to the definitions referenced?

That can be considered a charitable donation just as much as giving blood to the blood bank or monetary gifts to any charity you can think of. Not tax deductible though ;

no, the main part that would make it a no though is "way beyond what was owed" , that's not giving in the true sense of the word

he went there not to be charitable or philanthropic, he went half way around the world cause some old lady/pimp called him out on being able to get 3rd world rates in Van

didn't read all his posts, they're mostly repetitive, how many large gifts did he give to strangers he didn't have sex with?


being philanthropic is more about intent, than even actions or sums, he went on a pooning vacation, sex tour, he didn't join the peace corps



your analogy reminds me of the wealthy assholes in Palm Beach, they hold lavish parties for themselves and give pennies back to charities, they like to call themselves "philanthropists" too

you being a Christian, I would think you should know what giving to the poor/needy or as they say, what would Jesus do? looks like Lenny

 

[lenny]

no, the main part that would make it a no though is "way beyond what was owed" , that's not giving in the true sense of the word

I'd say it's real giving when you give someone some money you are in no way obligated to
give, out of the goodness of your heart, and expect nothing in return for yourself. As in the
example in question. This also is philanthropic giving.

he went there not to be charitable or philanthropic, he went half way around the world cause some old lady/pimp called him out on being able to get 3rd world rates in Van

Why he went there is not pertinent to the question of whether or not particular acts during
his holiday were philanthropic.

BTW on previous trips he engaged in philanthropic giving, so why couldn't that have still been
in his heart & intentions prior to the most recent trip as well?

didn't read all his posts, they're mostly repetitive, how many large gifts did he give to strangers he didn't have sex with?

This is irrelevant to the particular gifts in question & whether they are philanthropic.

The amount given, large or small, is also irrelevant. Since if an act of giving is
philanthropic, it can be a penny from a homeless man or all the diamonds in Africa.

being philanthropic is more about intent, than even actions or sums, he went on a pooning vacation, sex tour, he didn't join the peace corps

Whether he was on a sex, golf, basket weaving or wanking tour, or a mission as a catholic priest
to save the universe from vampires, is totally irrelevant to whether particular gift giving
during that holiday was philanthropic.

your analogy reminds me of the wealthy assholes in Palm Beach, they hold lavish parties for themselves and give pennies back to charities, they like to call themselves "philanthropists" too

If an act of giving is philanthropic, it can be a single satang from a crackhead mayor in Ontario or all the gold in fort knox.

you being a Christian, I would think you should know what giving to the poor/needy or as they say, what would Jesus do? looks like Lenny

WWJD? According to the bible he also demonstrated acts of philanthropy towards sex workers.
He saved them from the WWJD freaks of his day, which caused the freaks to seek his crucifixion.

 

[ilikegurlz]

Like this answer about What Would Jesus Do...Cause we just don't know, do we? Have fun Bro...

I'd say it's real giving when you give someone some money you are in no way obligated to
give, out of the goodness of your heart, and expect nothing in return for yourself. As in the
example in question. This also is philanthropic giving.


Why he went there is not pertinent to the question of whether or not particular acts during
his holiday were philanthropic.

BTW on previous trips he engaged in philanthropic giving, so why couldn't that have still been
in his heart & intentions prior to the most recent trip as well?





This is irrelevant to the particular gifts in question & whether they are philanthropic.

The amount given, large or small, is also irrelevant. Since if an act of giving is
philanthropic, it can be a penny from a homeless man or all the diamonds in Africa.





Whether he was on a sex, golf, basket weaving or wanking tour, or a mission as a catholic priest
to save the universe from vampires, is totally irrelevant to whether particular gift giving
during that holiday was philanthropic.






If an act of giving is philanthropic, it can be a single satang from a crackhead mayor in Ontario or all the gold in fort knox.




WWJD? According to the bible he also demonstrated acts of philanthropy towards sex workers.
He saved them from the WWJD freaks of his day, which caused the freaks to seek his crucifixion.

 

[overdone]

I'd say it's real giving when you give someone some money you are in no way obligated to
give, out of the goodness of your heart, and expect nothing in return for yourself. As in the
example in question. This also is philanthropic giving.

Lenny, he received a service from them first

according to your thinking every person who goes to a restaurant or receives a service is doing philanthropic work by giving a tip

which is what he did, he gave tips to sex workers

hardly what the definition of "out of the goodness of his heart" is or even remotely what the spirit of the phrase intends

he went half way around the world to take advantage of the economic conditions there

which is fine, his choice, but it isn't philanthropic

if he also went out of his way to give to the some of the other 70 million or so poor there in anyway, without having sex with them, I might buy it

I'll try and start deducting the tips with Revenue Canada and see how that goes :eyebrows:

 

[tantalizeme]

An obscure-sounding thread on "SP Visits & Blood Tests Revisited"...and what do I find?

No less an esteemed brother than lenny is breaking his prolonged silence and chiming in—while mentioning offhand that he has been in some of Asia`s most famous monger hotspots for 1 year now!

Wow, Lenny—I`m truly tantalized. Sincerely wish you`d write in more detail about your adventures in famous Geylang, reported to have one of the world`s most diversified SP offerings. http://www.geylang.net/

---

I also see, brother overdone took lenny`s bait and responded to a provocative remark about the philanthropy I allegedly practice "by providing employment for & giving extremely generous gifts (tips) to overseas ladies in need."

Of course, I`m itching to respond—but don`t want to hijack a thread on an entirely different topic.

So I think I`ll start a new thread, on the merits and downsides of monger travel. Here it is: https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...o-get-it-off-your-chest&p=1512665#post1512665

 

[lenny]

Lenny, he received a service from them first

It doesn't matter. If gift giving to an SP meets the definition of philanthropy, then that's what it is, period.

There are two separate episodes of totally different types of handing over the dough, one at the shop & the other after the deed was done. The first was obligated payment for services to be recieved. The second was a gift freely given, not required.

according to your thinking every person who goes to a restaurant or receives a service is doing philanthropic work by giving a tip

No, only those "tips" that meet a definition of philanthropy are philanthropic. Which one do you want to use: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/philanthropy

This isn't about paying a mandatory "tip" at an American restaurant. It's about freewill voluntary tips which automaticly puts them in the same class as gifts such as presents (e.g. flowers, chocolates, lingerie) & charitable donations.

This regards Asia where tipping is not usually required or even the custom, let alone huge amounts up to at least 100% of the cost of service. In particular PI SP's to whom The Tantalizer knows so-called "tips" are completely optional.

BTW, how many guys in Canada gift a $300 an hour sex worker an additional $300? How often does Mr. T tip Canadian SP's at the rate that he tips PI SP's?

As he says:

"Cost of 40+ erotic encounters (incl. generous tips & 10 overnighters): about $2000 Note: Tips are optional. If you're super budget-conscious, you don't have to tip at all and can pick lovely P800 girls, in which case 40 poons would be about $760)."

So if it's $760 for 40 poons & the rest of the $2000 is in "tips", that's over 160% in "tips".

If the gift he gives the SP is money & called a tip, it may be philanthropy.
If the gift he gives the SP is clothing & called a present, it may be philanthropy.
If the gift he gives the SP is offering to donate to the charity of her choice & called a charitable donation, it may be philanthropy.

All of these things - tip, present, charity, donation - in the above context are synonymous with each other, can be used interchangably, & are equally a gift. If these gifts meet the definition of philanthropy, then it's philanthropic gift giving.

which is what he did, he gave tips to sex workers

In what definition of philanthropy are "tips" or "sex workers" excluded? They can be the recipients of gifts, presents, & charitable donations like tips just like a hungry homeless person.

It doesn't matter if she sucked his balls for bills before hand or spent the whole day painting his house.

hardly what the definition of "out of the goodness of his heart" is or even remotely what the spirit of the phrase intends

So according to you a guy can't gift a sex worker with something "out of the goodness of his heart"? in this case SP's in poverty striken PI, just ravaged by a natural disaster? No doubt a lot of customers and workers in the business would disagree.

It can be just as much a philanthropic gift if he gives it to her immediately after a session or a year later apart from any sex. Calling one a tip and the other a present or donation is just a play of words about two things that can be in essence exactly the same.

he went half way around the world to take advantage of the economic conditions there

1. So IOW unlike you he's a savy buyer. And you're envious.

2. Another comment that is not pertinent to the topic of particular acts of extremely generous giving (so-called tips) and whether they qualify as being charitable, free, without any obligations from the recipient & philanthropic.

3. on previous trips he engaged in philanthropic giving, so why couldn't that have still been in his heart & intentions prior to the most recent trip as well?

4. His tagline: "Leave them better than you find them."

which is fine, his choice, but it isn't philanthropic

if he also went out of his way to give to the some of the other 70 million or so poor there in anyway, without having sex with them, I might buy it

You "might" buy it? Where in the definition of "philanthropy" does it rule out sex workers or include them only if you also gave a penny to a street beggar in Angeles City?

I'll try and start deducting the tips with Revenue Canada and see how that goes

Sure & while you're at it try deducting those meals you bought for the hungry homeless & street workers in the VCR DTES. Let me know how RC responds.

 

[lenny]

I am thinking of quitting this hobby because I can't donate blood anymore

I'd suggest looking into the possibility of being able to donate blood in the other some 200 nations on earth, besides Canada. If this can be done, then maybe enjoy a holiday there. It could even be a sex tourism trip as well, while you're at it.

You may also find that in the near future Canada lightens up on their rules re donating.

 

[overdone]

Sure & while you're at it try deducting those meals you bought for the hungry homeless & street workers in the VCR DTES. Let me know how RC responds.

lol, oh Lenny, that was sarcasm :doh:

but, what can one expect from someone who can't distinguish between a tip for service and philanthropy

I'm also not in VCR, I've never been down where you troll in east Van for your charity missions

the board actually covers all of western Canada