SP asking for $$ help

FreeG

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Has this happened to anyone? Someone I'd seen texted me pleasantly but at 530am!. But then said she was in a bind and needed some money to fly her back to the city. And yes, that would lead to a great time at her place :)

I politely declined but she said any bit of money would help.

It's a shame (given that she was great in bed, beautiful, and fun to talk to) but I decided to pass, even helping her with $20. In my current life, just too many little flags, too many risks, and too little known about her to start anywhere near the "white knight" route. Maybe she really is in a bind and a little bit of help will be what's needed! But given that she's asked for an advance before (which I declined), and she missed 2 appt. before without explanation, I think I have to go safe now and not help.

Effectively I think this will mean I will not see her again but so be it. The hobby can be risky enough; throw in someone who needs lots of help in their life (which I don't know, but is a worse-case possibility) and the risks are too much.

If I was single and free of judgment, I might have helped. But not in my current life situation; I'm afraid the hobby is ultimately a selfish thing for me. I'm honestly nice and professional with the women I meet but like any service, im not ready to deeply get into their personal life nor let them into mine.

Your thoughts/experiences?
 

giaebonyprincess

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I think you did the right thing, don't feel bad its not your responsibility, she isn't anyways. You don't know the real problem or issue and you could be helping an a addiction IF there is one. This hobby is suppose to be fun and exciting, a major treat not a burden for either parties.

Just let it go and wish her the best.

My 3 cents.
 

Cock Throppled

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I was approached by an SP I'd known a few years asking for some money to help her move, and renew her car insurance.

I sympathized, but declined. There were no addiction issues, but I suspected other problems judging by how she asked, her strange explanations and the even stranger promises of how and when she would repay any 'loan'.

Never heard from her again, and never called her again, although I saw her still advertising. Best to keep everything to do with this strictly on a business level.

PS - I never lend to friends or family, either.
 

tiger69

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People will say this is probably not a fair comparison, but... A lawyer won't dare to call up a random client and ask to borrow money. A dentist won't call me up in the middle of the night no matter what kind of trouble he's in. A massage therapist most likely won't either... So I'd not think that a SP would deserve any special consideration in this situation. I pay you for a good time, you give me a good time, done and over with, see you next appointment, I'm not your suggar daddy or your bf and you're not my gf, so I feel no obligation to help you if you get into a situation which I can't even confirm the validity of.
 

KingofClubs

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Has this happened to anyone? Someone I'd seen texted me pleasantly but at 530am!. But then said she was in a bind and needed some money to fly her back to the city. And yes, that would lead to a great time at her place :)

I politely declined but she said any bit of money would help.

It's a shame (given that she was great in bed, beautiful, and fun to talk to) but I decided to pass, even helping her with $20. In my current life, just too many little flags, too many risks, and too little known about her to start anywhere near the "white knight" route. Maybe she really is in a bind and a little bit of help will be what's needed! But given that she's asked for an advance before (which I declined), and she missed 2 appt. before without explanation, I think I have to go safe now and not help.

Effectively I think this will mean I will not see her again but so be it. The hobby can be risky enough; throw in someone who needs lots of help in their life (which I don't know, but is a worse-case possibility) and the risks are too much.

If I was single and free of judgment, I might have helped. But not in my current life situation; I'm afraid the hobby is ultimately a selfish thing for me. I'm honestly nice and professional with the women I meet but like any service, im not ready to deeply get into their personal life nor let them into mine.

Your thoughts/experiences?
It boggles my mind how so many sps find themselves in financial trouble. I understand business is ebb and flow, but I've heard these stories so many times over the years. And have been burnt myself in the past trying to help. I think making cash daily hinders some escorts ability to budget and plan into the future.

Nowadays I only give money at the start of my booked sessions. Keep this strictly business. It's just easier that way.
 

storm rider

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Uh Yeah....just dont do it.This pastime is a business transaction.We are paying for sex.If the encounter is bad or a burn we dont repeat business.If it is good we do repeat and thats where it ends.If you go on a sex romp holiday to Thailand for say a month and you fuck a plethora of bar girls and you nail one specific gal 8 times because she was really good and 3 months later she sends you a text asking for money for the family's sick water buffalo do you actually send her the money.....well I guess you do if you are an idiot.

I remember a good 10 years back when I was still naive and trying the "dating scene" and I met a gal off of Lavalife.We went on 3 dates and she put out after the 3rd date.The next day she calls me up in the afternoon and after 2 minutes of conversation she tells me she has an "awesome" investment opportunity for me.I asked what it was and she vaguely described it and I said I was not interested as I did not fathom it.She then asked if I could "lend" her 20 GRAND and I said I did not have 20 GRAND.She responded "you could take it out of the equity you have in your home" and I responded "well how will the loan be secured?" and she responded "what do you mean secured? do you mean I would have to pay it back?" and I said "well yeah that is how a loan is paid back because if you think I am going to GIVE you 20 GRAND your ego is writing cheques your body and sexual skills cant cash".....I did not hear from her again and I was not upset about it in any way.

You are paying hard currency for this pastime(I refuse to call it a hobby as a hobby is generally constructive) and the protracted investment is SEX with HOT women that do dirty wicked SEX for MONEY that wives or GF's refuse to give you so it is a means to scratch an itch that wont otherwise be satisfied.For some guys it is GREEK and for some it is golden showers and so on and so forth.....nobody should be marginalized or looked down upon for their prefferance of kinky stuff.At the same time it is pay for play and no guy should even get asked for a "loan" or a "gift"...hell some guys save up for 2 months to take a chance on this merry go round and if they get a bad encounter it REALLY is a shit sandwhich to have to eat.

Just my 2 cents

SR
 

giaebonyprincess

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People will say this is probably not a fair comparison, but... A lawyer won't dare to call up a random client and ask to borrow money. A dentist won't call me up in the middle of the night no matter what kind of trouble he's in. A massage therapist most likely won't either... So I'd not think that a SP would deserve any special consideration in this situation. I pay you for a good time, you give me a good time, done and over with, see you next appointment, I'm not your suggar daddy or your bf and you're not my gf, so I feel no obligation to help you if you get into a situation which I can't even confirm the validity of.
True true!!

And I wouldn't want you calling me out of the blue asking me for some free p****

It is what it is...don't confuse things. I kind of wish I opened up a Moneymart or Cash money Loan store.
 

summerbreeze

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when I make a personal loan, I mentally treat it as a gift

that way I am not disappointed if it is not paid back, yet allow the person the dignity to be responsible and repay it (if they can)
 

alcxd

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We'll I have, guess it's the person I was brought up to be. I'm no wealthy business man, just an average jo, who, if I can is willing to help friends.
I've one SP that it'll be 5 years this October that I've helped a couple of times when stuck. Yes, I realize that mentioning it here I'll get all kinds of comments & criticism, but I don't really care what the f... other people think.
So here's a question to all the little shits on here that are going to give me a hard time.
What's the difference between it & a deposit ?
I generally like longer dates, so it's no different than putting down a deposit. I take deposits all the time for work, why shouldn't an SP ask or get a deposit for the longer dates. She has to set aside a block of time for the date & this way she's guaranteed that you're gonna show. Yes you need to know / trust the person, but the likelihood of an SP getting stood up in this business is way worse than you getting stood up by an SP.
& for you people out there that disagree I'll just add one item for thought. You want to take an SP on a trip, wouldn't she be nuts not to ask for a deposit???
Well hit me with your best shot, if you can or dare to. Just remember, what comes around goes around.
 

badbadboy

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We'll I have, guess it's the person I was brought up to be. I'm no wealthy business man, just an average jo, who, if I can is willing to help friends.
I've one SP that it'll be 5 years this October that I've helped a couple of times when stuck. Yes, I realize that mentioning it here I'll get all kinds of comments & criticism, but I don't really care what the f... other people think.
So here's a question to all the little shits on here that are going to give me a hard time.
What's the difference between it & a deposit ?
I generally like longer dates, so it's no different than putting down a deposit. I take deposits all the time for work, why shouldn't an SP ask or get a deposit for the longer dates. She has to set aside a block of time for the date & this way she's guaranteed that you're gonna show. Yes you need to know / trust the person, but the likelihood of an SP getting stood up in this business is way worse than you getting stood up by an SP.
& for you people out there that disagree I'll just add one item for thought. You want to take an SP on a trip, wouldn't she be nuts not to ask for a deposit???
Well hit me with your best shot, if you can or dare to. Just remember, what comes around goes around.
Hey, not to worry, lots of us have been there myself included. We all seek our pleasure and no matter how you toss it, there is an emotional attachment involved.

When I take a walk in their shoes putting themselves out there for our pleasure and having sometimes to ask for help when they are really stuck; in the big picture, I've just elected to help a person with whom I've established a connection with emotionally and physically. I realize it's a donation or a gift that may or may not be repaid in lieu of services.

I just see it as helping another human being when in a real need. I sooner do this than help a few relatives that have zero emotional attachment to me but do show up hat in hand on occasion.
 

maxic

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For loans there are banks and other financial institutions , never good idea loan the money to friends, relatives or sps in this discussion, but if somebody decides so make it as gift and dont expect the money back that's that.
 

ddcanz

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We'll I have, guess it's the person I was brought up to be. I'm no wealthy business man, just an average jo, who, if I can is willing to help friends.
I've one SP that it'll be 5 years this October that I've helped a couple of times when stuck. Yes, I realize that mentioning it here I'll get all kinds of comments & criticism, but I don't really care what the f... other people think.
So here's a question to all the little shits on here that are going to give me a hard time.
What's the difference between it & a deposit ?
I generally like longer dates, so it's no different than putting down a deposit. I take deposits all the time for work, why shouldn't an SP ask or get a deposit for the longer dates. She has to set aside a block of time for the date & this way she's guaranteed that you're gonna show. Yes you need to know / trust the person, but the likelihood of an SP getting stood up in this business is way worse than you getting stood up by an SP.
& for you people out there that disagree I'll just add one item for thought. You want to take an SP on a trip, wouldn't she be nuts not to ask for a deposit???
Well hit me with your best shot, if you can or dare to. Just remember, what comes around goes around.
Whatever floats your boat- no judgement here- glad it worked out for you. But you come across a bit high and mighty here, dude.
"...guess it's the person I was brought up to be..."?
Yeah, most of us help out our friends when we can.
You're not special. But you kind of put it out that way when you take the confrontational approach before any one even takes a shot.
And the "deposit" approach only works if she sees you again, rather than bolting with the cash and/or ignoring your calls after.
As you say, it's about trust- and only the people involved can truly speak to that.
 

summerbreeze

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in my limited experience people who ask for personal loans fall into 2 categories

1, a touch irresponsible and looking for an easy way out. not the most reliable in terms of repayment

2, someone really in need and are looking for a lender of last resort

not a good idea to lend the first category, the second though can be different. normally a person has some back up such as family, most likely parents. close friend as well might help them in a pinch if they know them well and reputation is good

but what does someone do if they get into a bind and their backup is not available or non existent.....

what I normally do is turn them down initially to see how resourceful they get, in 99% of the time they work something out but sometimes they just get stuck with no where to go having tried everything

depending on the amount and what the need is I will call back and check to see if they have made any progress and then walk them through a couple of scenarios where I might be able to help them help themselves. try and give some advice along with the loan and let them know that while I care about the money, more importantly I care about them being able to cope with difficult situations

in most cases I have been paid back, probably because the person realizes that this bridge shouldn't be burned since they might need help again in the future

being paid back is also a situation where either they won't, or the can't

in any case, it is easy to be taken advantage of when it comes to money but sometimes people just need help and are at the end of their rope so to speak, doesn't mean you are a fool with your money to help someone who really needs help. just means you recognize that sometimes, good people get themselves into trouble that needs other people to help them out of....
 

zigzag6984

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I would hope that an SP would never contact me unless I contacted them first.

Ditto :) Sad to think anyone would travel withouta return ticket ...... not a great idea , unless you are not planning to come back .
About 5-6 years ago, despite my warnings, a lady friend of mine did just that with a guy she hardly knew. When it became obvious she wasn't going to have sex with him, he left her in California.
 

giaebonyprincess

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A reputable Sp should never make contact unless replying to your inital contact . I know I have never contacted a client without having been contacted first . But I am old school I never call or text any man first :)


Wow , she should have seen that one coming , it is for that reason that I always hold my own passport and return tickets ( also money for my own room if needed ) and naturally I have acess to my own money , being dependant on another person is just asking for trouble :(

Thats is why I choose to work and pay my own way :) as do most Sps ( all the smart one anyways ) , sorry about your friend .
Yes but not everyone is smart....lol

But I guess we should stay on topic:focus: If your gut is telling you not to do it, don't do it! (lend money that is)
 

grusse

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I have loaned money to 2 ladies who I (at different times) saw on a regular basis.

I was repaid in trade not cash.

No problems.Maybe I was naive/foolish, but it worked fine in both cases.
 
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