Solar Energy Rebates

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80watts

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https://solarpanelpower.ca/rebates-incentives-tax-credits-canada/

on above ref click on BC, then BC solar power guide


So with all the crap happening over oil and gas pipelines in Canada, you think there would be some incentive to really go renewable energy in Canada. Apparently not. Look at BC, now the proposed thing is to limit household to net zero conditions. Make enough only for their house. So that the hydro company won't have pay for any extra KW you produce over your household needs....

talk about killing the solar power.

As for rebates looks like their are no significant ones....

Yup stuck on oil and gas for the future.....

Any comments??
 
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https://solarpanelpower.ca/rebates-incentives-tax-credits-canada/

http://https://solarpanelpower.ca/british-columbia/#incentives

So with all the crap happening over oil and gas pipelines in Canada, you think there would be some incentive to really go renewable energy in Canada. Apparently not. Look at BC, now the proposed thing is to limit household to net zero conditions. Make enough only for their house. So that the hydro company won't have pay for any extra KW you produce over your household needs....

talk about killing the solar power.

As for rebates looks like their are no significant ones....

Yup stuck on oil and gas for the future.....

Any comments??
With the exception of the Green party, most politicians are part of the "Big Oil" game.
 

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I really don’t get going to solar in BC. Virtually all of BC’s base load power comes from renewable clean hydro electric dams, big and small, all over the province. So if your reason for switching to solar is because you want to help curb greenhouse emissions, you are already doing that.

If you want to get off the grid and save money, I’m really not sure the economics are there. Entire solar systems for houses are not cheap. I’d guess a system to power my house would be $20-30,000. Given I pay around $2,000 annually for electricity annually, the pay off period is just too long for me.

Finally, the climate here just isn’t efficient for solar. I have several small solar panels that power some outside lights for me and they are constantly unable to power those lights in winter. Summer is Ok, but I’m going to say that they work 10% in winter.

I’d get the argument if you lived in Alberta where almost all power is coal generated or California where the sun shines all the time, but here in B.C., no matter what angle I attack the notion from, it doesn’t make sense.

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renewable clean hydro electric dams, big and small, all over the province. So if your reason for switching to solar is because you want to help curb greenhouse emissions, you are already doing that.
Dams flood vegetation that acts as a carbon sink and produces oxygen.
Hydro is not perfect.

I would like to have my own wind turbine with battery backup. In Manitoba it is windy 90% of the time.
Some claim turbines kill birds. I walked around a few turbines and never saw any carcasses so I think that might be a myth.
 

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I have a small creek 500 feet above my Homestead, and I applied for rights to collect that water ,run it down the mountain, and turn a Pelton wheel. I figured I could produce enough to cut my bill in half for the year....bringing my bill down to 3500 , roughly....while running 6 to 7 months before freeze up.
BC Hydro told me I had to pay a Cold Grid fee, as I'm producing energy that they might have produced...which I thought was ridiculous since I'd be paying for the equipment and water rights out of my own pockets.
Years later that was challenged by a farmer in Hope that produced enough power to supply half of that town with the same...but very much larger...system.
He won, and it became policy that if your supplying excess power into the grid, Hydro had to pay you.....I'm looking at that project once again as a viable return on my investment.

I'd have 500 pounds pressure with the 500 foot drop in elevation, with a 2 inch line two miles or so long, necked down to a 1/4 inch nozzle.....running a 7500 to 9500 watt generator....running 24/7 for at least six to seven months of the year.
It's not solar, but I would be producing my own energy offsetting my yearly bill during the summer, to when I consume more energy in the winter months, when homemade power cannot be produced.
I figure my investment would be between 8-11 thousand....
 

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^^^^^
Actually Alberta has made huge strides with wind energy. If you ever drive through Pincher Creek in Southern Alberta you would be amazed at the wind turbines there. Significant contribution to the power grid and actually can sell surplus to the US and as far away as Quebec.
Agreed, they have made major progress using the renewable energy source (wind) that makes sense in that province.
 

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The reason I bought solar power up, was because in the past few years at Cdn Tire they had large (2 x 4 ft) cells that were in the price of 300-500. now its about 700. So when I was checking into rebates the second ref said that you there was a proposal to limit new installations to a "net zero", in other words excess energy you produce would not be sold back to bc hydro.
The "net zero" would be gauged on your current use of electrical engery (KW), but what happens if next year after I get a system I buy an electric car or two? If I do get an solar/wind system I would like to sell it back into the grid (like an business) which would help offset the cost of installation.

There is a book called The Third Industrial Revolution by Jeremy Rifkin. About lateral power transforming energy, the economy and the world. In other worlds renewable energy like solar, wind, etc being produced by the average household/business excess energy is sold to the grid.

By limiting the sale of excess energy int the gird, provincial government maintain a monopoly on the energy grid and dictate the price of electricity. I was in Ontario five years ago when I heard that BC hydro was increasing rates by 30% to offset big projects at BC hydro. In reality, people in BC were cutting back on electricity, not using as much and their Revenue fell (pluse the proposed projects). It happened in the CRD in Victoria, the water board had to ask for an increase because of water conservation. To make up in revenue drop the provincial board ok an rate increases to offset the loss of revenue.

So since the drop in oil prices (due to fracking in the states), solar panels have started to come up in price. According to the law of Supply and Demand, when a resource gets scarce the price goes up. Every one knows the world is running out of oil (cause the world is not making any more oil), the price of oil should be going up. Its not. Its dropping due to an inflated supply caused by the US. It is causing a backlash on renewable energy that is carbon neutral and sustainable; yet the price of solar cells has increased (oil is cheaper for transport and electrical use). The price of solar cells should be cheaper and more solar and wind farms should be going up...

One reason could be the "not in my Backyard" thinking. In Thunder Bay there was a proposal for a wind farm in the area of Thunder Bay. Unfortunately the people in the valley where it was to go up objected to the wind farm idea. They went to court and stopped it from being built.... and won....

As to not use solar power in BC, depends on the area. Solar panels work best under 26 degrees Celsius and will work on cloudy days too (just not as efficient in bright sunshine). Cloudy days can be offset by wind turbines.

There are systems on some Atlantic Islands where they use hydro electric power during the day and at night when its windy (or solar in daytime) store that energy to reuse the hydro water (where its is pumped back up to the top reservoir ) to make the system very efficient.
 

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Actually Alberta has made huge strides with wind energy. If you ever drive through Pincher Creek in Southern Alberta you would be amazed at the wind turbines there. Significant contribution to the power grid and actually can sell surplus to the US and as far away as Quebec.
no, we haven't

http://www.auc.ab.ca/Shared Documents/TotalGeneration.pdf

it's potential is about 5%, hardly a "significant" contribution

in Alberta all they've done, which should have been done, is switch to NG from coal, which drops your emissions in half

we don't have hydro here to speak of, and solar while it's in abundance here, doesn't make economical sense yet, without major subsidies

wind/solar/hydro will never be able to make a significant dent in the need for electricity here, it will never get above the 10-20% range

anytime soon, just like the rest of the world, where it isn't "significant"

just look at the stats, emissions worldwide are up, not down

delusions are great

just like BC, you great enviromentalists

one LNG plant and there goes your claims of being green, lol
 
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