So you want to take an Asian SP out socially? Add your ideas how it's best done

[tantalizeme]

There has been a long, lively but diffuse thread about experiences with taking out an SP off-the-clock. https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...ff-the-clock-any-experience-you-want-to-share

So I thought, why not start a new thread sharing constructive suggestions about how best to get an Asian SP (in a micro or AMP) interested in going out socially. With non-Asian SPs, this is obviously a totally different kettle of fish.

And I`m talking only about socializing off-the-clock—by having fun going to a dance club or karaoke, or having a stroll in the park—not anything serious like romance, which would likely lead to disaster.

Here`s my approach, but feel free to chime in with better ideas.

1. Make sure you`ve established good rapport with a girl before suggesting you go out socially, off-the-clock.

2. Speaking at least basic Chinese or Korean—or whatever her native language is—would be a huge advantage.

3. During small talk after a session, ask how she likes Vancouver, and if she`s sometimes bored.

4. If she says yes, ask if she wants to go out sometime, to a disco or dance club or karaoke—perhaps when she has "days off." But don`t appear too keen.

5. If she shows interest, give her your number and tell her to call if she feels like it. If she`s really interested, she`ll probably give you her cell number too.

6. The best is for her to call your number right then and there, so it`s in your phone. It`s best to set a tentative date and time for taking her out, as well as a specific activity, to be confirmed when the day arrives.

7. If she doesn`t seem all that interested, don`t bother with her. Just try other girls; it`s always a number`s game. Taking too much initiative with a particular girl makes her think she`s doing you a favour rather than you doing her a favour—and possibly makes her "on-the-clock" mode kick in.

8. When you pick her up on the day of the social outing, be prepared to pay the whole shot. She`s hugely unlikely to offer to pay her share. But if she offers, pay for her anyway and consider yourself lucky: this girl is one in a thousand.


But why bother taking a micro SP out socially in the first place?

Well, for some pooners it`s just fun to hang out with a fairly hot, exotic SP at a nightclub or karaoke or wherever, off-the-clock.

Then there`s the sweet satisfaction of having done a nice altruistic thing for a bored, lonely lady—and hopefully, made her feel less alienated about Canada.

In addition, you may also have a chance to practice your Mandarin, or possibly polish up your "being-out-with-a-lady" skills. Being seen with her may even be "social proof" in the eyes of other hotties present (if you know what I`m talking about).

And, with a bit of luck, this social outing may pave the way for future hot sessions—or who knows, even a freebie BBBJ in the car before saying goodnight. In that case, though, consider tipping her.

 

[87112]

Speaking Mandarin or Cantonese is not a Hugh advantage, it's not like they don't hear that stuff everyday. In fact it's one of the pluses being away from China or HK the languages are not nice to the ears.

 

[lenny]

Speaking Mandarin or Cantonese is not a Hugh advantage, it's not like they don't hear that stuff everyday. In fact it's one of the pluses being away from China or HK the languages are not nice to the ears.

At HKG airport I always enjoy the voice of the lady announcer speaking in Chinese. I assume it's either Mandarin or Cantonese. When she says something that sounds like the letter R in English, I always think, R U ready to blow me?

 

[MissingOne]

... the languages are not nice to the ears.

Surely that's not the case for native speakers?

 

[uncleg]

You ask her..........

 

[InTheBum]

I've taken two out to dinner in the past. One sort of bloomed, until I stayed the night and didn't give her any money...she called me and yelled at me..."Don't ever come back!"

Overall, it's probably a waste of time, unless you sense real chemistry.

 

[Sharky66]

See her several times, establish a rapport, fall in love with her, tell her you have fallen in love with her. shower her with gifts...... wait a minute, that doesn't end well.

 

[NMR]

ffs
I thought we were done with this subject.......

 

[vancity_cowboy]

ffs
I thought we were done with this subject.......

hell no, pardner...

the 'pretty woman' is a jungian archtype (ancient or archaic images that derive from the collective unconscious)

julia roberts and richard gere added substantially to their already substantial fortunes by acting in a movie about it

it will ALWAYS be a topic of interest here on perb :nod:

 

[bcneil]

I wonder if all the 'K girls' are from South Korea rather than North Korea?

all the ones over 4'11"

 

[Caramel]

What if I want to ask out a cacucasian independent girl socially? How does that kettle of fish work?

Tant already covered that scenario in the first version of this topic...

Myself, I'm not looking for off-the-clock time with Western SPs, though I'm always open to friendship with congenial individuals who're interested in meeting me. But I can't help imagining the following conversation between someone like Tim McGee and the SP he has set his sights on.

It's the end of another terrific session with his favorite SP Valina.

Him: "Hey, Valina, that was great. You're so good at what you do."

Her: "Oh thank you, dear. You're nice too."

Him: "Just one more thing... I've wanted to bring this up for some time."

Her: "Oh? What is it?"

Him: "Let me get straight to the point... I'd love to see you socially."

Her: "Social time? You mean, like having dinner together at your favorite restaurant? Tell me what night you have in mind, and I'll check my engagement calendar. I think you know my social rate?"

Him: "Actually, I meant...social time off the clock. You know, we could meet up as friends, shoot the breeze, walk on the beach, talk about our lives, goals, hopes, dreams."

Her: "Oh my God. That comes really unexpected. Spend time with you for free—are you serious? What have you got to offer that makes you think I'd want to do that?"

Him: "Well, as you just said, I'm a really nice guy. Not rich, but stable, and I have a warm heart. I'd like to understand you as a person. I care about your happiness."

Her: "I see you're not joking. Let me be straight with you too. You're just another pathetic worm who pays $300 to use my female assets. In real life a woman like me would be way out of your league. The last thing I need is some starry-eyed slimebag wanting to steal my precious time, so he can fawn and slobber over me for free and then boast to his friends about it.
Now get the hell out of here and never come back, you hear me?"

I wonder if things couldn't easily turn out like this for poor Tim McGee or other brothers with his aspirations—unless experienced veterans at the task of recruiting SPs as friends, like brother haymitch, are more generous about sharing secrets of their success.

So according to the OP, you'll be verbally abused, left with a shattered ego and probably a broken heart if you ever think of asking a Caucasian/Western SP out

 

[tantalizeme]

Thank you for your valuable perspective

oh great, just what we need a thread encouraging a bunch of guys to start bugging the girls with propositions

a better thread, if you must, would be about hitting on girls that work at grocery stores or at the mall or in college, why focus at all on sp's when the whole thing is 100000% more complicated right from the start because the initial meeting (and most likely any after that even off the clock) are focused on money

just be happy with the 45 minutes and then move the fuck on, this is ridiculous

no, you missed my point... I've had an Asian mp girl proposition me before actually, but I am wise enough to know that these kinds of things that start with money exchange are generally either complicated or just segueing into another type of money exchange relationship anyways

so to make a thread on the idea seems silly to me, why one would want to focus on this method (I understand reason for the appeal, it is way easier to proposition an sp that is already talking to you in private and sexually willing than it would be to brave trying for a date with a non-sp girl)

if a relationship or dating is a goal, then it makes a lot more sense to focus on non-sp's (and nothing wrong with sp's having a social life too, just that meeting them as an sp/client in the first place is not the smart way to look for relationships or dating)

Hey chhaapp,

Always value the viewpoint of intelligent contrarians like yourself—because they challenge me to think things through more thoroughly.

But before you call this thread "silly," or throw stones at me, remember two relevant facts:

1. Some of us pooners—even if only a few—enjoy taking the occasional micro girl for a spin to a nightclub or karaoke or whatever. Have you forgotten brothers ray_fink, cougarhunting or Tim McGee from the other thread? All I want to do here is give wings to the idea of taking out micro SPs, so more brothers feel encouraged to try. So that's not kosher, in your view?

2. You say you had an AMP girl "proposition" you! Doesn't that tip you off that some AMP & micro SPs have a huge pent-up desire to escape their silo for a glimpse of the outside world—and to interact with Canadians in other ways that just the end of a dick? The whole idea is to do these micro girls a favour while, admittedly, having as pleasant a time as possible ourselves. Potentially it's win-win all around.

If you've read my posts on this topic, I always stress: don't bug a girl to go out with you socially, just offer—and please don't persist if there's no interest. I also said explicitly, the goal here isn't a dating relationship, just friendly socializing off-the-clock with beautifully sensuous ladies.

Now if you want to start a "better thread" about hitting on girls working in grocery stores or at the mall, what's stopping you? Why not accept that some of us have this special thing for Asian SPs and the eroticism they radiate, and we'd occasionally enjoy taking one of them out socially, with electrifying sensuous possibilities crackling in the background.

 

[Tugela]

What makes you think they even want to see you dead off the clock?

 

[MissingOne]

What makes you think they even want to see you dead off the clock?

Guess that's why one asks. To find out.

 

[barny-stinson]

HAHAHA

But seriously, this won't be over until he gets the response he wants.

Will you be willing to cook up some lasagna while we wait?

I just wish there was more to discuss than Asian Micro girls constantly.

 

[Guardian Angel]

I have socially dated two Asian Sp's in the past 5 years. One from China, one from S Korea. Both very much enjoyed the social time as it appeared they were lonely and off the clock activiy was very welcome. Movies, dining, fringe festival, walks in a park, casinos were among some of the stuff we did.

On the sexual level I continued to pay for my sesions. I never asked either for freebies. For me it was nice to have a sweet lady to share some time with, laughing and just being a couple. I will admit the sessions did get better during the brief time they were in town. One was here for 3 months, the other 2 months.

The Chinese lady did end up asking me to keep her in Canada and marry her which was not in the cards. We had some heated discussions and finally she got pissed when I would not pay for her ticket home.

I still keep in touch with both beautiful ladies by skype, facebook and email, and occasionally talk to my S Korean friend on the phone.

Would I do it again, probably if there was an opportunity.

G.A.

 

[dipsett]

I've taken two out to dinner in the past. One sort of bloomed, until I stayed the night and didn't give her any money...she called me and yelled at me..."Don't ever come back!"

Overall, it's probably a waste of time, unless you sense real chemistry.

yeah i think this would be the case more often then not.

 

[tantalizeme]

Splendid contribution from a veteran pooner!

I have socially dated two Asian Sp's in the past 5 years. One from China, one from S Korea. Both very much enjoyed the social time as it appeared they were lonely and off the clock activiy was very welcome. Movies, dining, fringe festival, walks in a park, casinos were among some of the stuff we did.

On the sexual level I continued to pay for my sesions. I never asked either for freebies. For me it was nice to have a sweet lady to share some time with, laughing and just being a couple. I will admit the sessions did get better during the brief time they were in town. One was here for 3 months, the other 2 months.

The Chinese lady did end up asking me to keep her in Canada and marry her which was not in the cards. We had some heated discussions and finally she got pissed when I would not pay for her ticket home.

I still keep in touch with both beautiful ladies by skype, facebook and email, and occasionally talk to my S Korean friend on the phone.

Would I do it again, probably if there was an opportunity.

Hey Guardian Angel,

That's precisely my hope: that a few pooners might come forward to share stories about spending off-the-clock social time with SPs—and how things progressed and ended.

I think what we learn from this board is the tip of the iceberg of what really goes on between SPs & pooners.

I too have been told by more than one micro girl—apparently not in jest—that she'd marry me on the spot. But like you, I'm not an all-or-nothing kind of guy: I like sex with these girls, I'd even enjoy social time with many of them, but I don't need "happily-ever-after" (which most likely means, "unhappily ever after").

It would be a nicer date if the man would break out of that "sex-extracting mould", and just enjoy the evening as it is with no expectations other than good company. You do know that 'altruism' is about giving without the expectation of receiving?

"....Pure altruism consists of sacrificing something for someone other than the self (e.g. sacrificing time, energy or possessions) with no expectation of any compensation or benefits, either direct, or indirect (e.g., receiving recognition for the act of giving)."

Nice of you to take her out, though. A stranger in our country, with little English, would have trouble finding recreational activities

mimi's quote is from the other thread, but it fits right in here. I like mimi's way of disagreeing with me in a spirit of empathy and gentleness. As an ex(?) Western SP, I understand (I think) where she's coming from.

The last thing most Western SPs would probably want is spend unpaid social time with horndog pooners who're mauling them in disabled washrooms and expect a freebie BJ in the car after a visit to a dance club.

Believe it or not, I've honestly found many Asian SPs have a totally different mentality. They're almost always "on" sexually.

Provided a guy is not too rough, Asian SPs generally don't complain about being seen as sex objects, but relish their body's power to excite men and feel humbly surprised by our physical attentions. It never occurs to some of them that we should or could be interested in anything else. I think if you actually fell in love with one of them and married her, she'd probably feel you must be a fool.

I'm generalizing about what I believe to be statistically true about Asian SPs as a group, though of course there're lots of exceptions.

 

[PlayfulAlex]

Submissive Asian Women May Empower the Man Inside the Relationship, article:

http://osteria-labbra.com/?p=42

 

[badbadboy]

Tant are you going to be providing them with slutty outfits to wear when you take them out?

Seriously, wouldn't it just be better to keep your hobby private inside an Asian Micro and carry on life as usual on the outside?

Not a good idea at all.