So you like Socialism huh?

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westwoody

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"On The Take" by Stevie Cameron is a must-read about Mulroney's greed.

The Tories preach a lot of lies about privatisation and reducing government. What they really do is sell off Crown assets to their pals at fire sale prices. Mulroney taught the oligarchs of the collapsing Soviet Union how to loot the state. Mulroney also arranged deals for his pals to supply the government with dodgy products, especially the military and RCMP.
 

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I for one recognized it was a cut and paste from someone else. No biggie (tho providing references is warranted )

I also welcome contrary views - group-think and being surrounded by like-minded people may feel comfortable but it’s a dangerous situation for any organization (not that I would consider Perb an organization but you get the point!).

Having ones views questioned and challenged is healthy - it forces you to either reinforce (with facts, hopefully!) update, or sometimes change ones views - hopefully for the better!
Normally people copy the link to show it's not their piece. Or add the entire text to the link and make your own comments. Otherwise without that info it can be construed as posting the editorial as your own thoughts.
 

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Have you forgotten the corruption of Brian Mulroney and Stephen Harper? They were as bad, if not worse, than Chretien, Martin, and Trudeau the younger. Mulroney sold out our our legislative freedom and entire economy via NAFTA. Harper gave away our rights to privacy and security to the US when he was in power.

We don't have socialism in Canada. We have an oligarchy. Our economy is a mixed one with a heavy balance of capitalism. What do we have that is socialist? Emergency healthcare and hospitals (but not elective surgery like cosmetics or hip and knee replacements), education somewhat (except in BC where private schools steal dollars from citizens to enrich the upper class). We still have some public control over environmental standards and radio and telecoms. Mail delivery. That's about it. Banking is privatised. Almost all TV, radio, and print is privatised (and largely controlled by 2 families).
hip and knee replacements are covered, why do you think you annually hear whining about how long it takes to get one done?

and private schools don't steal dollars from anyone, they just follow the student, or in BC does your gov't give the private school more than it would to the public system? lol

and you forgot the billion we waste on the CBC, the 30B or so on Old Age Welfare, er Security

and how about the new one, for Breeders, which Sniffles is putting us into debt for, about 4-5B more than Harper's bribe was

2/3 of provincial budgets go to pretty much 3 things, Health/Edmucation/Welfare-Social programs

that isn't Socialism, lol

around a 1/6 of the Feds budget is going to the 2 things I mentioned above, pretty sure there's more there too

we tipped over into the socialist column a while ago

pretty sure that's why every gov't is heavily in debt, which started with the first waste of skin Trudeau

for Christ-sake, we're the only country in the world you can't buy basic health-care, except I think Cuba, Zoolander's second favorite Commie Dictatorship
 

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For hardcore conservatives, progressive taxation is the working and middle class stealing from the rich, but plagiarism is not stealing of intellectual work of other people. No wonder intellectualism means nothing to them.
 

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hip and knee replacements are covered, why do you think you annually hear whining about how long it takes to get one done?

and private schools don't steal dollars from anyone, they just follow the student, or in BC does your gov't give the private school more than it would to the public system? lol

and you forgot the billion we waste on the CBC, the 30B or so on Old Age Welfare, er Security

and how about the new one, for Breeders, which Sniffles is putting us into debt for, about 4-5B more than Harper's bribe was

2/3 of provincial budgets go to pretty much 3 things, Health/Edmucation/Welfare-Social programs

that isn't Socialism, lol

around a 1/6 of the Feds budget is going to the 2 things I mentioned above, pretty sure there's more there too

we tipped over into the socialist column a while ago

pretty sure that's why every gov't is heavily in debt, which started with the first waste of skin Trudeau

for Christ-sake, we're the only country in the world you can't buy basic health-care, except I think Cuba, Zoolander's second favorite Commie Dictatorship
Hey those are FACTS how dare you point them out!!!!!This will cause a shitload of nonsense to be spewed about how Harper did a bad job whilst PM for 10 years and enacting his "hidden agenda".....truth be told the "hidden agenda" was just fear mongering perpetuated by the leftist media.No there was no crackdown on gay marriage etc nor the changing of abortion laws(hell Harper ordered a whipped vote anytime a backbench CPC MP proposed a private members bill for those things) but he did take care of his promises on the hustings which were to get rid of both the gun registry and the wheat board......not a big deal to the people on the Left Coast who dont hunt nor grow wheat.

Oh yeah you also forgot to mention the ENTIRE Public Sector union members.Be they Federal/Provincial or Civic.....they are the pigs at the trough who demand year over years raises equal to inflation to not just to their wages but also to their defined benefit pensions.....and the taxpayer is on the hook for those.

Socialism is alive and doing well in Canada thanks to the likes of Tommy Douglas and later on Pierre Trudeau and the latest Trudeau is just making it worse.In BC for the last election the will of the electorate was ignored when the NDP cooked up a deal with the GREENS to hijack government but so far the NDP are "light" on the cronyism as they are being propped up.The Greens held their nose on the Site C dam so they might possibly achieve their ultimate goal which is Proportional Representation(participation trophy politics) so they gain MORE power whilst the electorate gets MLA's that did not garner enough votes to win a riding.

One of the first things the BC NDP did was to form a "climate change panel" and that was just PURE NDP cronyism to give lucrative government jobs to NDP insiders....the only outsider on the "climate change panel" is a Teck Resources executive and Teck Resources did that so the BC NDP wont be able to slap a carbon tax on coking coal(it is used to make steel not for electricity production) which the Notley NDP government did and whilst doing so shut down the ENTIRE industry in Alberta.

As for the BS of plagarism.....did I once present the OP as my own words?Did I take credit for it?The answer is NO.I saw a good article with regards to the state of things in Venezuella and I cut and pasted it.

Today in history Lenin died and then Stalin took over.Under Lenin it was Socialism and it might have been a good idea at the time though in retrospect a shitload of Russians regret the idea of killing off the Romanov family as well as the rest of the Russian nobility.Under Stalin more Russians were killed by the state than the casualties lost in both WW1/WW2.As for Cuba and Castro's "Socialist paradise" if it was so fucking nice why did hundreds of thousands of Cubans flee the country by any means available....be it an air bed or a rickety fishing boat for the USA and the land of opportunity?

Yeah Socialism sounds real fucking nice to the people that want a "nanny state" and have everything given to them and not have to work for it.....try being the people that pay for it.My brother has sat his ass on welfare in BC for 20+ years.He has not done a hard days work in his life and he actually had the fucking balls to resent that I paid off MY home in 11 years from working hard because the only chance he has of owning a home in Vancouver is if he wins the lottery.

Socialism is great...until you run out of money.....Margaret Thatcher.

SR
 

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Yeah Socialism sounds real fucking nice to the people that want a "nanny state" and have everything given to them and not have to work for it.....try being the people that pay for it.My brother has sat his ass on welfare in BC for 20+ years.He has not done a hard days work in his life and he actually had the fucking balls to resent that I paid off MY home in 11 years from working hard because the only chance he has of owning a home in Vancouver is if he wins the lottery.

SR
Your point above is a moot point man cuz it does not exist. A "nanny state"? Maybe for those
on welfare but last I checked the majority of folks in this country are hard working tay paying people.
You sure have an uncanny knack for slapping the whole working population in the face.

'Try being the people that pay for it"? ARE you serious? Believe it or not you are not the only
one paying for it.
All those hard working people you see everyday out there pay taxes man and are not looking for handouts.
I do believe they out number the "nanny wishers" hands down.
In my honest opinion you owe this community an apology for that less than thought out statement.

Don't feed the trolls guys. Storm Rider is that weird kid in school who always wore a black trenchcoat, pretending he was Neo.
I should have just listened to wetnose and not even made a reply. What a waste of time.




....................QM'r
 

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Well he’s an Albertin, that province put all its eggs in one basket so they are precarious every time there is a downturn. It’s atually a good wake up call, I know a lot of guys who came back from Ft Mac made all that big coin and now you can’t shake a nickel out of them. You have to hang on to that cash pissing it away stupidly on Testicle Diesels and toys won’t help you in the long run.
 

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Well he’s an Albertin, that province put all its eggs in one basket so they are precarious every time there is a downturn. It’s atually a good wake up call, I know a lot of guys who came back from Ft Mac made all that big coin and now you can’t shake a nickel out of them. You have to hang on to that cash pissing it away stupidly on Testicle Diesels and toys won’t help you in the long run.
Yeah , but if you run a diesel for your business.....there was some pretty good deals out there.
You just needed to drop their height down ,and put tires on them that wouldn't run you off the road ,and into a ditch.
Testicle Diesels....I've never heard that before.
 

westwoody

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Testicle diesels LOL

The ones with the truck balls hanging off the trailer hitch!!
 
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