Yeah and without hydro you can't store that surplus of wind powered energy.
Hydro is the only battery technology that works at scale.
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Hydro is the only battery technology that works at scale.
Energy demand is expected to largely plateau in BC over the next 10-15 years. The issue with EVs won't be the lack of energy production, but rather the infrastructure to distribute said energy (e.g. your local substations transformers, circuits, reactors, etc.). BC rarely requires peak production output.
The location of Site C as a technical argument is weak. The transmission infrastructure already exists to bring that energy to where it is demanded.
There's much to be said about the land of the indigenous groups though, but that is a topic that stretches this thread a bit further away than its main point.
You can't change the past, but what are you doing for the future? What does reconciliation look like to you?
Your statement is incredibly ignorant.
It's mostly a wasteland up there that doesn't really produce much. Soon there will be a huge beautiful lake that over time will support massive recreational possibilities. There will be ample water supplies for all types of farming opportunities. Some pain for some now but the future will thank us because fresh water will be the gold standard of the future. I remember the same outcry when the WAC Bennett Dam was put in, now Williston Lake is a major provider of good clean ecofriendly jobs. The clean power these dams produce is priceless!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Williston_Lakehttps://www.bchydro.com/community/recreation_areas/williston.html
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Williston_Lakehttps://www.bchydro.com/community/recreation_areas/williston.html
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Let’s not forget who started this project in the first place. To much money has been spent already.
Where do you think the LNG plants are going to get their power?
Where do you think the LNG plants are going to get their power?
You are absolutely correct on the challenges to upgrade the infrastructure to manage and distribute energy and forgot to mention the costly upgrades to most homes electrical panels that do not have the capacity for a fast charging system.
However, not sure where you got your demand numbers from. This article says BC electricity demand will double by 2055, just for transportation needs, let alone heating and industrial requirements.
https://www.uvic.ca/news/topics/2019+lowcost-renewable-vehicles-crawford+media-releaseToo màny people are making light of the gap between today and a low carbon future. The recent power debacle in Texas is an example of what happens when power generation and distribution systems are not well thought out.
Your right....Building code would require a 200 amp service panel , with a passive system.
In other words, if your charging your car in the garage on full capacity ( the charge taking hours instead of days) and your cooking your pizza in the oven, the system would over ride your household use, to instead charge your car by shutting down your appliances.
We would be going back to the days of waiting to take showers an hour apart, if you have an electric hot water heater.
Back? You mean I'm trapped in the past? Aaargh!
Oh well. I don't have time to worry about it. I have to go out and shovel some more coal for the boiler that powers the generator to make the electricity that powers my laptop, so I can work on the spreadsheet to calculate my carbon emissions.
I like the idea of tidal, but most studies on tidal, in europe have run out. The thing about tidal is the fish problem. I can see alot of tidal between Van Island and mainland and in many inlets.
We have excess now. Probally won't in the future.
Thing is if everything ran at 100%. There is need for downtime to fix/repair/do maintainance on things in dams/generators.
Communities being destroyed, ahhh.... well its happened in the past and will continue into the future, all in the name of progress.
As for Aboringnals getting fucked over, well it well probally still happened in the future. After all they are all on Canadian Welfare, its just called something else. Aboringnals need to pay fair taxes on their land, and pay income tax at the provincial and federal level. They are not separate nation, after all, they lost the Indian Wars and were conquered by British Troops. They are allowed to vote in federal elections, yet still say they are a separate nation.... Aboringnals are not dumb people, they have smart ones too; it just the majority of them are on drugs/alcolhol and are just plain lazy as a whole, while their chiefs make millions off the Canadian taxpayer, while the same chiefs convince the tribe members that it is the white man's fault...
And everyone that wants to be politically correct is DRINKING THE KOOL-AID......
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The problem with Japan reactors was the back up generators got flooded after the wave flooded the lower levels of the plant. With no back up power, no coolant was able to cool the hot nuclear mass, or put back in control rods (nuetron absorbers).
Yo, you do know there was a war going on at that time. And to save Americans lives in the invasion of Japan the A-Bombs were dropped.
Since then the Japanese government and people have looked on nuclear power for peaceful means and to supply the public with electricity, without the major cost of coal/oil burning plants.
Jesus.... Murphy...... Kool Aid swallowing......
So the opposite is true then too, the aboringnals just by being here are fucking the rest of Canadians out of their future? And the rest of Canadians have to support the Aboringnals with their tax money... Who has the better deal.... The better propaganda system...
There is an old saying about the louder you scream the more people will listen to you.....
Solar still works on cloudy days, depending on the amount of cloud cover and the temperature. Over 26 C , solar cells don't make much more electricity, but the solar cells are getting more efficient. Also every bit of power by renewable can help on your electrical bill. Think Offset.
Since 3 mile island and Chernobyl, the public has been against nuclear. The research shows that Thorium reactors are alot more safer to operate than US enriched reactors.
Tesla had a idea where you just put the power in the air.... but where would be the profit in that and how would you control who uses the power? In other words it would be a money loosing scheme, who would buy into it?
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Site C has been a no win for the NDP government, as promised, the former Liberal government took the project far enough that there was no way stop it. Now we can only hope that it is not throwing more good money chasing bad and that the additional energy allows for a significantly increased electrification of the province.
Sy, I know people right now who charge their cars at home and they aren't having to shut down their appliances or take cold showers. The ev revolution is already pretty real in Vancouver.
Yeah that’s for these little ass cars....I’m talking about vehicles that have an electric motor on each wheel, more battery capacity for longer distances, that aren’t being produced yet.
Having said that, I will admit I’m not a guy who’s up to date..
If that’s what your saying I’m not going to argue with you, as you’d have a better idea than I would....I will always have to drive large diesels to operate my business.
It's some of the most valuable land still in the ALR, and would have become more valuable if climate warming progresses and turns Californian agriculture farmlands into a desert.
But go have fun fishing for mercury contaminated fish in a reservoir that flooded some of the earliest First Nations settlements in North America.
And enjoy paying double for your Hydro bill because John Horgan is an idiot living in the 1960's.
I find it hard to believe that the public will be responsible for home upgrades. If a consumer wants to splurge on fast charging that should be on them IMO. BC Hydro should only be responsible for providing 120/208, but provide the infrastructure in order to do so. Consumers will do just fine charging at 208. The demand will likely be initially controlled by time-of-use rates until infrastructure can be upgraded.
Not at liberty to discuss my sources but the article is laughable at best. Feel free to lambast me all you like for not bringing my source, but if BC Hydro thinks that is true, you would have heard of mega infrastructure projects already. Keep in mind Site C was originally planned in the 80s, and brought back to the table in mid-late 2000s. By the time it is complete, it will be nearly 20 years since it "started". There are maybe a couple of potential sites remaining for dams but I can assure you they will likely "only" provide a few GW at best, similar to Site C. There are no plans to begin work on any of these sites. Demand side management will be the name of the game in the future. That is why things like smart meters were deployed.
BC as a province has never required 100% peak capacity as far as I'm aware. The peak demand record doesn't reach max BC Hydro capacity, and I believe that's "only"~90% capacity, on the conservative side. On most normal cold winter days we are probably at 50-70% capacity. That article suggests PEAK energy output is to increase by six times by 2055. I'll let you sit with that to think about how much/if it makes sense.
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