Should I Upgrade My PC OS from Windows 10 to 11?

[Oldfart]

Microsoft keeps pestering me to upgrade my operating system from Windows 10 to 11, and I'm nervous about fucking with a computer that's working brilliantly.

Have you done the upgrade and are you pleased or do you regret it?


Cheers,
Oldfart

 

[ModSquad]

Ain’t broke don’t fix it. I stall upgrade OS as long as possible until some apps won’t work without the update.

 

[Lo-ki]

All mine wont update to win11….they will stop supporting win10
Seems they want to force you to buy a new one to support win 11
Good old fucking Microsoft…..

 

[emacky]

Depending what your doing you should be ok for maybe a year up to 2026. After that more and more vulnerability will be detected and your system will become easier to hack.

There are ways to prevent it but would require more work to fix. Plus Windows 11 isn't that bad. It sure take time to get used to but it's pretty much the same for the most part.

I was planning to create a window XP vm to update some old tech that only existed in that era. Watch some YouTube videos where guys created one without a firewall and within 10 minutes it was completely hacked.

 

[ChromeGasCap]

I would be inclined to agree with ModSquad.
If you run a pretty vanilla install with not much added software, but do plan on purchasing some software in the near future, then now may be the best time.
Me personally? If I were to venture in an OS upgrade, I personally would mirror copy the hard-drive and upgrade the copied version. Just in case there were Hardware incompatibilities.

 

[ChromeGasCap]

I was planning to create a window XP vm to update some old tech that only existed in that era. Watch some YouTube videos where guys created one without a firewall and within 10 minutes it was completely hacked.

Just create an XP boot environment CD/DVD or thumb-drive.

 

[saltywetguy]

Everyone will have their own reasons to keep W10 or upgrade to W11... Really depends on the hardware, if your hardware supports it and when they discontinue W10 support altogether, then do a backup of anything important and upgrade... For systems that require tweaking to bypass the hardware requirements (depending on what those are), you really need to decide if it's worth the upgrade or not (if you have a non supported CPU or have 8GB ram as an example).

Here's my situation, I have many older computer and laptops, they're all on W10 and will remain on W10 as the hardware isn't supported, I don't want to bypass the hardware requirements either, plus, it has the bare minimum of 4G (one has 6G after I put in a 2G ram) and these are still on the HDD, not SSD. Having said that, my 'newer' laptops that have 8GB, 20GB (4+16GB) of ram, I've updated them to W11 as there are no hardware requirements to bypass by tweaking...

 

[milemiles]

I heard Win 11 was CBJ only. Anyone know for sure? Or is it YMMV?

Also since Luxxe is no longer supported is Coco what we are supposed to migrate to? I’m afraid I’m going to lose my past screening? Is this an automatic transfer over?

 

[viola]

Many years ago (15+) I gave up on Windows and started using Linux. I occasionally bump into items that only have Windows versions such as programable Xkeys keyboards that have to have their keys written in the manufacturers windows prog, so keep an old win laptop for those instances, but there is little that doesn't have an open source clone, these usually are free, and happily run on older hardware. I recommend Ubuntu or Mint as the best Linux versions for windows users to start with.

 

[ChromeGasCap]

Also since Luxxe is no longer supported is Coco what we are supposed to migrate to? I’m afraid I’m going to lose my past screening? Is this an automatic transfer over?

WOW Coco! Haven't heard that mentioned in decades.... LOL
I happen to still have mine, with its piggy-backed memory, etc. 🤣 🤣

But to answer as per the thread: Coco is NOT a good upgrade option..

 

[SSL Management]

All mine wont update to win11….they will stop supporting win10
Seems they want to force you to buy a new one to support win 11
Good old fucking Microsoft…..

Microsoft is finally revealing that it will charge consumers $30 for a year of extra security updates to Windows 10. Support for Windows 10 will end on October 14th, 2025, but consumers will be able to purchase a single year of Extended Security Updates (ESU) for $30 for the first time ever.

If you need more time before moving to a Copilot+ PC or other new Windows 11 device, a one-year Extended Security Updates (ESU) program for $30 USD will help protect your Windows 10 device. Enrollment for this program will open in 2025.

ESU is a paid program that will entitle enrolled PCs to receive Critical and Important security updates after support for Windows 10 ends. The program will provide Critical and Important security updates but will not provide other types of updates or technical support.

 

[ChromeGasCap]

Many years ago (15+) I gave up on Windows and started using Linux. I occasionally bump into items that only have Windows versions such as programable Xkeys keyboards that have to have their keys written in the manufacturers windows prog, so keep an old win laptop for those instances, but there is little that doesn't have an open source clone, these usually are free, and happily run on older hardware. I recommend Ubuntu or Mint as the best Linux versions for windows users to start with.

For the record I ran OS-9 as the OS for my Coco back in the 80's. It is a unix-like OS.

 

[ChromeGasCap]

Microsoft is finally revealing that it will charge consumers $30 for a year of extra security updates to Windows 10. Support for Windows 10 will end on October 14th, 2025, but consumers will be able to purchase a single year of Extended Security Updates (ESU) for $30 for the first time ever.

We knew this was coming eventually...
Surprised it took this long.

 

[masterpoonhunter]

Ah MicroShaft OS's ... been through them all. Right from MS DOS 1.2 on dual 8" Shugart drives and on and on.

You can resist the upgrade but at some point it is fighting city hall. MS is already great at locking down meaningful support threads at some obscure point in a thread so there is that part of trying debug things that eventually will start going sideways. If they start charging for support, well there you go, the old golden rule, He who has the Gold, Makes the Rule. Personally, I hold off changing the OS on a perfectly good computer, the chance of productivity loss is well above non zero, so I hold on as long as I can. Plus hanging on later will result in a lower cost as the fervor over a new shiny thing has long died down.

My company is running W10 and W11 plus Linux and frankly the OS is something we just accept. W11 is 95% the same as W10 with differences such that the typical person would not care about if they even identified. (mind you Outlook has really fked up some things with this "new Outlook". My point is that the real time and money is in the various applications and data compatibility.

Back to the poster who created an XP virtual machine ... I have an old Dell laptop that honest to god will NOT DIE, running XP SP2. I think its a 6300 (?) weighs about 7-8 pounds, every part of it is brick shit house rugged. Not connected to the network running some old music players, old instruments and so on. All work perfectly, robust as hell and no chance of it being hacked.

All my 2bits

 

[stressless123]

You would have to eventually upgrade to W11 as W10 won't get software updates and security fixes after Oct 2025. So much for Microsoft claiming that W10 would be the last and final version of windows lol.

You have couple of options based on how old/new your machine is. First thing would be to make sure your machine meets the requirements for W11 (specifically the TPM chip). If it does meet all the requirements then start with upgrading the bios and then decide if you want to do a clean install or just a simple upgrade. I always suggest taking a backup of your current machine before you do anything. Then do a clean install.

If your machine doesn't meet the requirements then you are out of luck after Oct 2025 and you gotta pay MSFT if you want support for one additional year. But honestly if you take your machine offline or don't visit sketchy stuff on internet and open sketchy files, you should be mostly fine even with W10 in future.

I wouldn't wait till Oct to update but you don't have to do it immediately either.

Personally for me, I had no choice on my work laptop as IT forced W11 on it. I hated the UI so much that I did everything I could to make it look and function like W10 lol.. on my personal desktop and laptops, I am still running W10. I have updated my desktop's bios and it is ready to be updated to W11 whenever I decide to go ahead but my laptop is 10 years old now and would be stuck at W10 until it completely breaks down lol.

 

[80watts]

I think the worst thing to come out is pay by month for word/excell/outlook. You used to upgrade every 5-7 years. Now you pay each month/year... Gimmic.

Same thing goes for other programs professionals use. auto cad, kitchen design, landscape design, etc...

Windows 11 eliminate some very old features such as paint, copy, paste. Its actually designed to get you to buy into the word/excell.

Your creativity is limited by the amount you pay.....

 

[PuntMeister]

Moved all my files and docs to the cloud a few years back. Went with icloud drive for about $4/month as it seems simple and crosses platforms well.

That was the Best computing decision I ever made! Everything accessible any time anywhere across all my devices on a secure encrypted server. Except for some large legacy pic libraries and videos, which I keep on an external backup drive.

Now I don’t care what PC/phone/pad or version I have as it’s just a dumb app machine to me now. So it’s easy to stay up to date on any OS upgrades, MSOffice, etc. 99% of the old software I “thought I really needed”, I didn’t. Newer better free version of pretty much any app or program I want nowadays. So ya, couldn’t give a flying fuk about trying to keep an old PC or laptop alive. Hardware is expendable, and it’s pretty cheap to get new faster stuff now, especially with Boxing Day sales.

 

[masterpoonhunter]

Moved all my files and docs to the cloud a few years back. Went with icloud drive for about $4/month as it seems simple and crosses platforms well.

That was the Best computing decision I ever made! Everything accessible any time anywhere across all my devices on a secure encrypted server. Except for some large legacy pic libraries and videos, which I keep on an external backup drive.

Now I don’t care what PC/phone/pad or version I have as it’s just a dumb app machine to me now. So it’s easy to stay up to date on any OS upgrades, MSOffice, etc. 99% of the old software I “thought I really needed”, I didn’t. Newer better free version of pretty much any app or program I want nowadays. So ya, couldn’t give a flying fuk about trying to keep an old PC or laptop alive. Hardware is expendable, and it’s pretty cheap to get new faster stuff now, especially with Boxing Day sales.

Which is the argument for a chrome book or in the old goat trail days a client server work station.

 

[emacky]

Moved all my files and docs to the cloud a few years back. Went with icloud drive for about $4/month as it seems simple and crosses platforms well.

That was the Best computing decision I ever made! Everything accessible any time anywhere across all my devices on a secure encrypted server. Except for some large legacy pic libraries and videos, which I keep on an external backup drive.

Now I don’t care what PC/phone/pad or version I have as it’s just a dumb app machine to me now. So it’s easy to stay up to date on any OS upgrades, MSOffice, etc. 99% of the old software I “thought I really needed”, I didn’t. Newer better free version of pretty much any app or program I want nowadays. So ya, couldn’t give a flying fuk about trying to keep an old PC or laptop alive. Hardware is expendable, and it’s pretty cheap to get new faster stuff now, especially with Boxing Day sales.

It is true for most users you don't need to maintain your hardware system. Unless you're gaming, torrenting, running a home server, etc. you can pretty much do everything off the cloud.

It's probably far easier now to have a lot of alternatives hardware to use rather than throwing $1500+ on a new rig.

All smart TVs and tablets support apps to watch most paid content, you could use fire stick to steam as well. You can get a steam deck to play most games. Hell you can get a dock for you steam deck so you can game with a keyboard and mouse off a monitor.

I do admit I still am part of a plex server and need some sort of hardware to stream off my TV. I might see if I can get a Mac mini from my works hardware sale and setup a Ubuntu machine for my TV.

 

[HunkyBill]

This question has been debated intensely what seems to be forever. it's like you have the far right (Linux) and far left (Mac) and in the middle (Windows) users.

I tried Linux for a month. I couldn't handle it. My mind isn't wired for that operating system. The more affordable option would be to buy a Chromebook or a mini-PC running Windows 11, if upgrading becomes absolutely necessary.

However, if you keep your nose clean online and avoid installing new applications you can often get by with what you have, as long as the websites you visit support your current OS and browser. Many people (although they are becoming fewer) are still running Windows 7 and XP.