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jesuschrist

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Perhaps you would get along better with the younger generation if you tried to understand their point of view and worked on coming across in a less patronizing way with them?
What actually happens in real life is that it is the younger generation that comes across and tries to understand and adapt to the older generation, and that is because it is the older generation that has all the power - the power to fire you, the power to prevent you from buying property, the power to deny you credit, the power to deny you new projects, the power to deny you promotions, etc.

The sooner a younger person stops believing they are special and needs to be understood by those older, the faster he/she will succeed in their chosen vocation - and that is because it is the older ones who will make you successful despite your best efforts.
 

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Oh you guys I really thought this thread would start a discussion on bbfs supporters and against

Now it's about young vs old

Too funny, I agree with young and old :) bad seeds in any generation ps in my early 30's too and wear a suit to every interview

Even wore one to apply for a warehouse job when I was 18
 

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It is interesting that you are denigrating degrees as something that only time and money can buy, when being old is something that only needs time...

I agree that accomplishments are something that is more important. However I run into old men in my profession that have either accomplished nothing or whose accomplishments are dated and they are trying to rest on them. These old men are neither competent at my profession nor worthy of respect yet they demand it because they are old. However, respect is something that is given when it is due, not because someone is old. I will listen and learn from those that are worthy of respect, regardless of age.

If you are a person that thinks you are being productive and helpful by automatically assuming that the youth are incapable of long term relationships, incapable of completing thoughts and being twitterheads, then you clearly are not worthy of the respect of the younger generation or anyone really because you are discriminating against a group as whole based on something they cannot change.



Well... seeing as how I have been in my profession for years now, I have good credit and I own property so I'd say I'm doing pretty good in real life. What I've learned in my profession is that in a company it is all about what the employee is doing for the company now, regardless of age. That old guy middle manager that constantly complains about how youth is today, well he's going to terminated from his job when the company realizes that they can hire 3 college grads that are maybe individually half as productive as he is but together earn the same salary as he does.

And I would say that it is this generation, maybe more than any other, that has decided that they are unique, decided that they do not want to be corporate minions and strike out on their own and start their own companies that are successful. It's not someone's age that makes them successful it's the person, it is only a higher incidence of old people being successful because they have had a much longer time to reach that level of success. If a person is successful and they have knowledge to share then they should be respected them regardless of age.

Also, you're making it sound like a fraternity and a cycle of abuse really, how is useful that since old men got put through shit then it means that they should treat others like shit? Because it's good for them? And it's these same old men that had the children that became these twitterheads, so who do they have to blame other than themselves?
If you're still in your 20's, then anything you say about life is worth about 50 cents. Live and learn.
 

cloud_9

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It is interesting that you are denigrating degrees as something that only time and money can buy, when being old is something that only needs time...

I agree that accomplishments are something that is more important. However I run into old men in my profession that have either accomplished nothing or whose accomplishments are dated and they are trying to rest on them. These old men are neither competent at my profession nor worthy of respect yet they demand it because they are old. However, respect is something that is given when it is due, not because someone is old. I will listen and learn from those that are worthy of respect, regardless of age.

If you are a person that thinks you are being productive and helpful by automatically assuming that the youth are incapable of long term relationships, incapable of completing thoughts and being twitterheads, then you clearly are not worthy of the respect of the younger generation or anyone really because you are discriminating against a group as whole based on something they cannot change.



Well... seeing as how I have been in my profession for years now, I have good credit and I own property so I'd say I'm doing pretty good in real life. What I've learned in my profession is that in a company it is all about what the employee is doing for the company now, regardless of age. That old guy middle manager that constantly complains about how youth is today, well he's going to terminated from his job when the company realizes that they can hire 3 college grads that are maybe individually half as productive as he is but together earn the same salary as he does.

And I would say that it is this generation, maybe more than any other, that has decided that they are unique, decided that they do not want to be corporate minions and strike out on their own and start their own companies that are successful. It's not someone's age that makes them successful it's the person, it is only a higher incidence of old people being successful because they have had a much longer time to reach that level of success. If a person is successful and they have knowledge to share then they should be respected them regardless of age.

Also, you're making it sound like a fraternity and a cycle of abuse really, how is useful that since old men got put through shit then it means that they should treat others like shit? Because it's good for them? And it's these same old men that had the children that became these twitterheads, so who do they have to blame other than themselves?
Things to think about

Argument for us Youngsters

http://www.profitguide.com/news/fuel-awards-unveil-canada’s-top-young-entrepreneurs-43587

http://www.avenuecalgary.com/top40/alumni/2012

Argument for the older people

http://www.statisticbrain.com/ceo-statistics/

So there are successes in both young and old

For example, All my assets are paid off and own 5 Businesses that I started myself. The two others I started one sold for over 2 Million and the other sold for a quarter Million, how many people in ANY age can say that? I did it all myself, started a business when I was 21 and still have it and it does about 100K in sales a month. Success can come at any age, you just have to believe and work at it.

We will all get old one day and we were all young one day too. My feeling is that there are top decision makers in every age as well lazy asses too. Everyone is different and people learn or do things at a different pace.

Yes the older people have more life experience, but at the same time, I have also met lots of people older than me given them advice, and taken their business to the next level. I am in my 30's , I do stuff like this all the time, do I say "Oh that old man knows nothing about Marketing" Never ever crossed my mind, just happy I can help another person's business grow.
 

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Of course Borko, I agree that people should be judged on what they have done and accomplished not age, sex or color of their skin

There I elaborated on my above post :)
 

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You shouldn't care what I or anyone else thinks, most people's thoughts will just drag you down and get you in a bad mood.

Who cares what some dude on the internet thinks

Just be yourself, have confidence in what you do, have good morals and be happy..... good things will always come if you do that, maybe not right away, but it will

Now go Succeed you young Whipper Snapper :)

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