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It has a nice ring to it, eh?

But, consider for a moment the following scenario. Please, let's not turn this into a political discussion of why it could or could not happen, stick to the topic.

Suppose, Senator Clinton does get elected. So, what happens to her Senate seat? She would still have a few years to go on her Senate seat. Governor Pataki gets to appoint someone to fill out the remaining time on her term. Let's just imagine he decides to appointment President Clinton's husband, a guy named Bill. Could happen.

Imagine the right wing talk-show talking heads handling this. To them, one Clinton is bad enought, not two. Could be a lot of fun.
 

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ROTF LMFAO! too funny! and it could happen? I guess there is no restriction for a former president to hold another public office.
 

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And who would Hillary not have sexual relations with?

What did Bill Clinton say to Monica Lewinsky?
I told you to lick my erection, not wreck my election!
 

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Actually that is receiving wide speculation and may not be a bad move for NY State.

Just some minor adjustments in your post and the reason I did not accuse you of stealing this from the DEMS as a talking point.

Pataki is a Republican so if he made the appointment he would likely appoint a person from the GOP.

However Pataki is no longer Governor of New York. Eliot Spitzer is the Governor and he is a DEM.

I am not sure Bill would be interested in the job. It would be a major step down for him and he would become just 1 of 100. I think he wants to enter the world stage, maybe as head of the UN or the World Bank, so being the "First Man" would give him freedom to travel the world.


Are you proud of me for not turning this into a political debate?
 

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Maybe Clinton(Bill) wants to run for a third term. There may be a back door. They could run Clinton and Clinton for president and vice president. then get monika to take out Hillary, and bill's on top of the world. then again, a female president. LMAO
 

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Juggy, I am impressed. Are you American?

The constitution is silent on any qualifications for VP. So could someone who is not a natural born US citizen (i.e. Arnold) be on the ticket as VP and just a heart beat away from the oval office.

The same logic would apply to someone who term limited out (Bill Clinton). Could he be on the ticket as VP?

This is something that would be decided by the courts and it would be based on constitutional law.

If there were a majority justices who believed in the strict interpretation of the law then VP Bill could become president because the constitution does not strictly prohibit that.

If there were a majority of activist judges who believe the constitution is a living document and open to arguments about our founding fathers state of mind, then Bill would not be eligible to run as Pres therefore he could not backdoor into that position.

The irony is it is conservatives who general apply strict interpretations and the liberals who are more towards interpretation.
 

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You do not know how right you may be.Since that idiot in the whitehouse has done such an incompetent job and lied to the American people, no Republican will be able to be elected president at the next election. A Canadian told me in Puerto 15 months ago that the liberals had ripped Canadians off for millions. I told her so what the republicans and Halliburton have ripped us Americans off for billions. Hillary has the money to win. George Bush may have guaranteed her election. I think he may have elected her all by himself. Oh well she cant do any worse than him. Thats not saying much. I saw a guy holding up a 3 foot picture of Bush down in Aberdeen, Wa last week. The caption said Global Idiot. It was on a bridge where every one would see it. I think the American people are finally getting it.
 

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Old Lover said:
.....Since that idiot in the whitehouse has done such an incompetent job and lied to the American people, no Republican will be able to be elected president at the next election. .......
I would be willing to have anyone who lied to the American people barred from running for President in 08.

Under your definition that would include W. But here is a direct quote from Hillary's just before she voted to invade Iraq.

It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security.

So we now need to include Hilary in the list of liars. Even her one time freind Geffon (sp?) is now saying she is a liar and good at it.
 

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Find me a politician who doesn't lie and you have a rare bird indeed.
Why? In the words of Jack Nicholson, you can't handle the truth.

Furthermore, once they get into office, lying will be not only expected but necessary. For instance, the President has to lie. If asked point blank about a covert operation, the exposure of which would cause the loss of many lives, I hope the President does lie. If he or she is negotiating with a world leader and tells too much, who knows what chaos might ensue. The president and many of our nation's leaders are trusted with secrets that may involve lying to prevent their disclosure and possible dire circumstances. It's okay, really, it's just a side effect of dealing with an imperfect world.

So next time you're criticizing a politician for making pie-in-the-sky promises, stop and think if you could handle anything else.
 

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Rod Steel said:
Find me a politician who doesn't lie and you have a rare bird indeed.
why, the right wing ones, of course? because we all know...

* Iraq had weapons of mass destruction
* Iraq was "the heart of the base" for the 9/11 terrorists
* Iraq will welcome the US as liberators
* Mission Accomplished
* All the trouble in Iraq is caused by outsiders
* There's no civil war in Iraq
* Iran has weapons of mass destruction
(etc.etc.etc.)
* We lost China/Vietnam/Cuba/Iran/Iraq/etc. because those who questioned us sapped our will & didn't let us kill enough people to win
* We HAVE to spend most of our money on defense because of the Cold War & it's a dangerous world.
* We HAVE to spend even more money on defense because the Cold War is over & it's an even more dangerous world.
* Tobacco does not cause cancer
* Being gay is a curable disease
* Global warming is a myth
* Creationism is a valid hypothesis & must be taught, evolution is not & shouldn't be
* Trees cause as much pollution as mankind
* Rock 'n Roll is liscentious and will destroy our morals
* All the problems in society are because we don't let kids pray in school
* If we teach sex ed in schools it tells kids how to have sex
* Blacks who want equal rights are part of a commie plot
* There were no racial problem until activists stirred things up.
* Gay marriage will destroy my marriage (that's why so many evangelist preachers get caught w/ their pants down)
* The Income Tax will destroy business & the nation's wealth
* The Sales Tax will destroy business & the nation's wealth
* Social Security will destroy business & the nation's wealth
* A minimum wage law will destroy business & the nation's wealth
* Increasing the minimum wage will destroy business & the nation's wealth
* Labor unions will destroy business & the nation's wealth
* Forcing white businesses to deal with black customers will destroy business & the nation's wealth
* Banning smoking in public will destroy business & the nation's wealth
* Not letting me discriminate against gays will destroy business & the nation's wealth
* Fluoridated water is poison
* Ronald Reagan won the Cold War by making the US budget deficit bigger than all other previous deficits combined. No, really, no one else helped in the Cold War & the Russian & E. Europeans who rose up had NOTHING to do w/ it!
* No one deserves gov't handouts (except business corporations, defense firms, home owners, anyone who drives a car, anyone who owns a business, multimillionaires)
* The poor don't work cause we pay them too much and the rich won't work cause we don't pay them enough
* Everyone needs to serve their country (unless you're a chickenhawk who's too valuable to get in harm's way)
* All druggies must be incarcerated in federal prisons for long terms (unless it's Rush Limbaugh)
* Anyone who deliberately blows the cover of an undercover CIA operative is a traitor to his country (unless you do it to cover your own ass for a right wing cause).
* "I never drove drunk in Maine." -- GHWBush
* Bush won Florida, we don't need to count all the ballots -- no, really, he did.
* The Holocaust never happened.
* Purpleheart winners have to be cowards, if they're running against a draft dodger
* Any pilot who was in a POW camp must have been brainwashed, if they're running against a draft dodger
* I'll tap you on the head right before I come.


*yawn* I'm tired now
 
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littlejimbigher said:
And who would Hillary not have sexual relations with?

What did Bill Clinton say to Monica Lewinsky?
I told you to lick my erection, not wreck my election!
Good one liljimbigr!

That reminds me of a joke:

Hillary Clinton and her driver were cruising along a country road one evening when an old cow loomed in front of the car. The driver tried to avoid it, but couldn't -- and the old cow was killed.

Hillary told her driver to go up to the farmhouse and explain to the owners what happened. She stayed in the car making phone calls to lobbyists. About an hour later, the driver staggered back to the car with his clothes in disarray. He was holding a half-empty bottle of expensive wine in one hand, an expensive Cuban cigar in the other. He was smiling happily and was smeared with lipstick.

"What happened?" Hillary asked.

"Well," the driver replied, "the farmer gave me the cigar, his wife gave me the wine, and their beautiful daughters made mad passionate love to me."

"My goodness," said Hillary. "What did you tell them?"

"I told them I'm Hillary's driver, and I just killed the old cow."

 
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i'd love to fuck hilary
 

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I wonder if she takes it up the butt?
 

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I don't know US law very well, but it was my impression that the law only prevents a person from serving as president for more than two consecutive terms. If I'm right about that, then Bill Clinton himself would be eligible to run for president in 2008. Perhaps someone who knows can clarify that.

I'm pretty sure, though, that Hilary will have already told Bill that, whatever the law may say, he is not eligible to run for president this time.
 
That makes two of us!

citylover said:
why, the right wing ones, of course? because we all know...

* Iraq had weapons of mass destruction
* Iraq was "the heart of the base" for the 9/11 terrorists
* Iraq will welcome the US as liberators
* Mission Accomplished
* All the trouble in Iraq is caused by outsiders
* There's no civil war in Iraq
* Iran has weapons of mass destruction
(etc.etc.etc.)
* We lost China/Vietnam/Cuba/Iran/Iraq/etc. because those who questioned us sapped our will & didn't let us kill enough people to win
* We HAVE to spend most of our money on defense because of the Cold War & it's a dangerous world.
* We HAVE to spend even more money on defense because the Cold War is over & it's an even more dangerous world.
* Tobacco does not cause cancer
* Being gay is a curable disease
* Global warming is a myth
* Creationism is a valid hypothesis & must be taught, evolution is not & shouldn't be
* Trees cause as much pollution as mankind
* Rock 'n Roll is liscentious and will destroy our morals
* All the problems in society are because we don't let kids pray in school
* If we teach sex ed in schools it tells kids how to have sex
* Blacks who want equal rights are part of a commie plot
* There were no racial problem until activists stirred things up.
* Gay marriage will destroy my marriage (that's why so many evangelist preachers get caught w/ their pants down)
* The Income Tax will destroy business & the nation's wealth
* The Sales Tax will destroy business & the nation's wealth
* Social Security will destroy business & the nation's wealth
* A minimum wage law will destroy business & the nation's wealth
* Increasing the minimum wage will destroy business & the nation's wealth
* Labor unions will destroy business & the nation's wealth
* Forcing white businesses to deal with black customers will destroy business & the nation's wealth
* Banning smoking in public will destroy business & the nation's wealth
* Not letting me discriminate against gays will destroy business & the nation's wealth
* Fluoridated water is poison
* Ronald Reagan won the Cold War by making the US budget deficit bigger than all other previous deficits combined. No, really, no one else helped in the Cold War & the Russian & E. Europeans who rose up had NOTHING to do w/ it!
* No one deserves gov't handouts (except business corporations, defense firms, home owners, anyone who drives a car, anyone who owns a business, multimillionaires)
* The poor don't work cause we pay them too much and the rich won't work cause we don't pay them enough
* Everyone needs to serve their country (unless you're a chickenhawk who's too valuable to get in harm's way)
* All druggies must be incarcerated in federal prisons for long terms (unless it's Rush Limbaugh)
* Anyone who deliberately blows the cover of an undercover CIA operative is a traitor to his country (unless you do it to cover your own ass for a right wing cause).
* "I never drove drunk in Maine." -- GHWBush
* Bush won Florida, we don't need to count all the ballots -- no, really, he did.
* The Holocaust never happened.
* Purpleheart winners have to be cowards, if they're running against a draft dodger
* Any pilot who was in a POW camp must have been brainwashed, if they're running against a draft dodger
* I'll tap you on the head right before I come.


*yawn* I'm tired now
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CL your acrimonious, delusional, lacklustre & garish prevarication is without a doubt the most tiresome editorial on this entire board!

Who raised you, a couple of LSD visionaries dodging the Draft up here, while sucking on the Government Welfare tit, who set up camp with their "Free Love" bus on a commune in Nelson?



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MissingOne said:
I don't know US law very well, but it was my impression that the law only prevents a person from serving as president for more than two consecutive terms. If I'm right about that, then Bill Clinton himself would be eligible to run for president in 2008. Perhaps someone who knows can clarify that.

I'm pretty sure, though, that Hilary will have already told Bill that, whatever the law may say, he is not eligible to run for president this time.
Missing1, the constitution prevents a person from being elected to the office of the President more than twice. So it does not matter if those elections are consecutive or not.
 

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Mr.O said:
<img src="http://www.blackratchet.org/etc/wtfisthisshit.jpg" border=0 alt=' up yours!'></a>


CL your acrimonious, delusional, lacklustre & garish prevarication is without a doubt the most tiresome editorial on this entire board!

Who raised you, a couple of LSD visionaries dodging the Draft up here, while sucking on the Government Welfare tit, who set up their "Free Love" bus on a commune in Nelson?
Good observation Mr.O. I have been trying to tell Citylover the same thing for some time now. It just doesn't seem to register - definitely some sort of chemical imbalance there.
 

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Rod Steel said:
Good observation Mr.O. I have been trying to tell Citylover the same thing for some time now. It just doesn't seem to register - definitely some sort of chemical imbalance there.
The guy's way too high strung. He should switch to weed, that'll cure his acrimony problem. I hear it helps with glaucoma, too.
 
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