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susi

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Without a moment to breathe in between the stages of Bill C36, the Senate Committee is holding public hearings as part of its pre-study on September 9, 10 and 11th, and potentially into the following week depending on how many witnesses there are.

So, its time to get in your recommendations for people to speak before Senate AND your briefs! If you submitted a brief to the Justice Committee, you can submit a slightly amended version of the same brief.

Please send your recommendations for witnesses and briefs to the following people:

Chair, Bob Runciman bob.runciman@sen.parl.gc.ca
Deputy Chair, George Baker, george.baker@sen.parl.gc.ca

Opposition Critic, Mobina S.B. Jaffer, mjaffer@sen.parl.gc.ca

Committee Clerk, Shaila Anwar,lcjc@sen.parl.gc.ca

Here are some of the answers to your questions about the Senate Committee process, compiled from information from the Senate Committee itself:

Q&A on Senate Process for Bill C36
When do the Senate Committee hearings begin?

The Senate Committee hearings begin on September 9 and run through until at least the 11th. There is a chance the Senate Committee will extend the hearings past the 11th, depending on how many witnesses they will see.

How are the witnesses before the Senate Committee organized? Individually? in panels?
Most witnesses are organized in panels, although Senate Legal prefers to have smaller groups (usually no more than 4 per panel). That will all depend on who is invited.

Are people permitted to submit the briefs to the Senate that they submitted to the Justice Committee? Will the Senate Committee be receiving the same briefs that were submitted to the Justice Committee? Are there suggestions for format, length and content of the briefs for Senate Committee?

Anyone can submit a brief and people can use the same ones. Revisions are suggested to address the amendments that were made in the House. In terms of format or length, keep things concise (no more than 10 pages, but 5-7 pages is best. The brief should focus specifically on any key points for or against specific provisions in the bill, provide specific recommendations and/or possible suggestions for amendments. It is of course also a good idea to provide a personal experience or story, depending on who is submitting the brief. In those cases, a 1st person account makes the most sense, but again, keep it brief. And the brief should ideally be submitted electronically. The committee will take care of translation/distribution to the committee. One can submit the same or similar brief to Senate Committee if they wish.

Will the Senate Hearings be televised?

Yes! They can be viewed live via webcast for sure and potentially on CPAC. There is also a web-on-demand service so meetings can be viewed afterwards.

Will the Senate Committee hearings be recorded and transcribed and available for download on the website?

Yes! The unrevised transcripts are usually available within 24 hours and the revised (fully translated) transcripts are posted on line about 10 days later.

For presenters: will translation be provided should witnesses choose to present in French?

Yes! All parliamentary proceedings are simultaneously translated. Same set up as the House committee. Witnesses can feel free to speak in the official language of their choice.

Is there a gallery where the public can watch the Senate Committee hearings?

Yes! There is a gallery for the public to watch in person, but the room is smaller than what the House committee used. Seating is first come, first served with priority being given to witnesses and committee staff. There may be an "overflow" room with the proceedings on closed-circuit TV, but that is not yet confirmed. ith little headsets?

Will the Senate be holding other hearings besides the ones for their pre-study?

Yes! The Senate will go through the same process as the House of Commons, in addition to their pre-study and accompanying hearings. This means that the Senate may hear from more witnesses between the 2nd and 3rd reading of the Bill in Senate. Do not rely on these moments to make recommendations for witnesses or submit briefs.

Who will pay for travel and participation of witnesses?

Similar to the Justice Committee, the Senate Committee will cover a fixed amount of expenses for participants in the Senate Committee pre-study hearings.

For more information about the Senate Process please download the Advocacy Guide II: Appearing Before Committees and Submitting Briefs : http://goo.gl/lqZoe0
 

susi

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from the committee clerk;

"Anyone can submit a brief and people can use the same ones (although I would suggest some revisions in particular to address the amendments that were made in the House). In terms of format or length, I would keep things concise (no more than 10 pages, but 5-7 pgs is best). The brief should focus specifically on any key points for or against specific provisions in the bill, provide specific recommendations and/or possible suggestions for amendments. It is of course also a good idea to provide a personal experience or story, depending on who is submitting the brief. In those cases, a 1st person account makes the most sense, but again, keep it brief. And the brief should ideally be submitted to me electronically. We will take care of translation/distribution to the committee. We do not generally receive briefs directly from the Justice committee. (But someone can certainly submit the same or similar brief to Senate Legal if they wish).
 

Sonny

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Are folks able to submit briefs without being a presenter in front of the Senate Committee?
 

susi

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yes, and i would say clients could do so from fake email addresses and under pseudonyms to maintain confidentiality....

or, i could compile client witness statements and submit them on behalf of you all? if people would like that i can also do that....

love susie
 

Cock Throppled

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That would be great, I am not sure what to write though.
The truth is all that's needed, although it could really confuse Conservatives.

Just be honest and write that you aren't forced, a drug addict or coerced and are an SP by choice and Bill C-36 threatens your livelihood.

Maybe you should suggest if money is needed to transition women away from sex work Conservative MP's could all give up their pensions. I'm sure they'd be delighted to help so many oppressed women since they're so committed to eliminating sex work.
 

Athenalust

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I dont get on Perb to often but on other boards, I have made it quite clear I am not quiting my job. Bill C-36 is a joke and goes against our basic rights. I have asked my clients to be disrete when talking and to new clients references will be a must or third party verification.


Conservative MP's view thing differently then we do, some of those women believe sex if for marriage still. When I got into this 4 years ago with eyes were wide open.

if the outcome is not in our favour, I hope the ladies of the industry stand their ground!
 

yazoo

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Maybe you could also ask how something that espouses to shield brainless, weak women from their own choices in life can even remotely be considered feminist.
 

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The truth is all that's needed, although it could really confuse Conservatives.

Just be honest and write that you aren't forced, a drug addict or coerced and are an SP by choice and Bill C-36 threatens your livelihood.

Maybe you should suggest if money is needed to transition women away from sex work Conservative MP's could all give up their pensions. I'm sure they'd be delighted to help so many oppressed women since they're so committed to eliminating sex work.
I noticed another story recently posted in the Lounge about a new bid in San Francisco to decriminalize prostitution in the wake of the seizure of the MyRedBook website by the Feds. This is the link. https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...n-Francisco-bid-to-decriminalize-prostitution

The quote at the end of the article from a longtime California activist, Norma Jean Almodovar, really caught my attention. (I read an autobiography of Ms. Almodovar years ago. IIRC she started as a cop in California back in the 1970s or 1980s when about all a female cop was allowed to do there was be a glorified metermaid, and she switched to being a callgirl voluntarily because she thought it was more honest than the graft, bribery and corruption she saw every day in the local police...)

This was her comment, with my thoughts on it afterwards:

Originally Posted by nd1 http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...0FY0ZH20140729

"'Force' is a term that's used against us, linked to attitudes about gender and sex that punish women for a business that will never vanish,” said retired sex worker and activist Norma Jean Almodovar.

“I chose to be a sex worker. And I don’t believe I have to give it away for free no matter how many district attorneys and politicians say I do,” she said.
That quote is an absolutely classic method of applying 'reverse logic' to the situation so that the reader has to do a mental double-take and actually THINK about the situation for a second or two. And frankly, if a Canadian SP stole the last part of it and amended it to the Bill C-36 situation, it could be a really snappy and punchy last line to a brief like the one Cock Throppled suggested. Try something along the lines of:

"In summary, as an adult female Canadian citizen who chooses to make her living as a sex worker, I don't believe I should be FORCED to have sex 'for free' just to please a bunch of federal Conservative politicians."

OR

"Why should some federal politician be able to tell me that I am not ALLOWED to have sex unless I 'give it away for FREE'? Whatever happened to my rights over my own body?"
 
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