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I have no doubt that a self-driving car, whetever the current limitations, would be safer than at least 75% of the drivers out there.

The car that struck the woman in Arizona, would almost certainly have hit her even with a driver. How one of the people in this article can say it was all the car's fault is beyond me. The woman tried to walk her bicycle across a four-lane road in the dark, without looking. How is that all the car's fault?

https://www.theguardian.com/technol...-uber-death-woman-failure-fatal-crash-arizona
 
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It's not the cars fault. There are multiple redundant sensors that autonomous vehicles employ making them safer than 99.99% of drivers. With the technology we have today on driver assist systems, cars are already much safer as they alert the driver to unsafe situations. In some cases, they are taking control of the vehicle to avoid unsafe situations. As this technology grows the only limitation will be the actual stopping and avoidance ability of the vehicle, not the technology running it.
Roads will definitely be safer.
Don't get me wrong. I hate the fact that some computer will be driving my car for me. But that's just me.
 
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Cock Throppled said:
I have no doubt that a self-driving car, whetever the current limitations, would be safer than at least 75% of the drivers out there.
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complete and udder bullshit

ask anyone who knows, a human has better ability to drive a car safely than a so called self-driving one

humans can react better, plain and simple, humans can react far better than a computer, ears/eyes

you think this hasn't been studied before?

if it was anywhere near as bad as you suggest, the bodies would be piled up

for the amount of cars/daily trips, again, driving is very safe, even with incompetent humans at the wheel

stats of car crashes/deaths are insignificant, from a reality/fact point of view

just like our stupidity with lower speeds save lives

photo radar saves lives

teachers are molders of young minds

cops are all heros

firefighters too

all nurses are angels of mercy

except facts don't support any of the bullshit you see on tv
 
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What a good point! I had just accepted what seemed inevitable...but...hey! I looove driving stick! What a great loophole!
 
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overdone said:
complete and udder bullshit

ask anyone who knows, a human has better ability to drive a car safely than a so called self-driving one

humans can react better, plain and simple, humans can react far better than a computer, ears/eyes

you think this hasn't been studied before?

if it was anywhere near as bad as you suggest, the bodies would be piled up

for the amount of cars/daily trips, again, driving is very safe, even with incompetent humans at the wheel

stats of car crashes/deaths are insignificant, from a reality/fact point of view

just like our stupidity with lower speeds save lives

photo radar saves lives

teachers are molders of young minds

cops are all heros

firefighters too

all nurses are angels of mercy

except facts don't support any of the bullshit you see on tv
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Well,factually you are completely wrong.

Humans have the POTENTIAL to be more aware and reactive, but the problem is many, if not most, aren't. Why do you think they keep adding technology to cars - air bags, cameras, back-up sensors, lane control sensors, automatic braking, etc etc? It's all because they see and do what the driver can't, or as quickly. And why do you think accident rates are so high with all those great drivers?

You must not drive much if you haven't seen drivers run red lights and stop signs, tailgate, cut off other cars, graze cyclists, speed in poor weather and in dangerous conditions. The list is endless of the poor driving humans employ because they are too stupid or lazy or selfish or poorly-taught and cause accidents. Drive an hour in Richmond and come back with how aware and reactive the drivers are.

And if you don't think speed causes more accidents, or more severe accidents and injuries, then you don't understand physics.
 
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I am way too much of a control freak to drive anything less than "stick" and I doubt a self driving car would drift as much as me.....suckit, self driving cars.....





I have a bad attitude today :dance:
 
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I hope my Nissan Cube is the very last car I own before I give the keys to a self driving car. I use to enjoy driving until I saw how many useless people out there are driving and playing on the phone. I have done it, so I am a jerk also.

Plus the days of all electric are coming-- no more gross gas stations to visit. Pleas tech hurry it up!!
 
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I think it is inevitable, at least in cities, and will be way safer and more efficient than privately owned driven vehicles. As mentioned before in previous threads and in numerous news stories, the self driven passenger vehicles of the near future will be electric and owned by ride hailing/car sharing services, not privately.
 
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I am cautiously optimistic about the self-driving/ride hailing/car sharing revolution.

Right now I enjoy the freedom and control of driving my own vehicle.

But in 10 years when I am retired (and my eyesight is failing, my reaction time is slowing, and my mind is growing feeble), I think I will be happy to get rid of my car and not deal with the hassle and expense of owning, maintaining, fueling, and insuring it.

But I do have some concerns. I'm sure these vehicles will work fine in the summer, but how will they handle a prairie winter with several inches of snow on the streets, black ice, potholes, and -30 degrees temperatures?
 
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Uncled said:
I am cautiously optimistic about the self-driving/ride hailing/car sharing revolution.

Right now I enjoy the freedom and control of driving my own vehicle.

But in 10 years when I am retired (and my eyesight is failing, my reaction time is slowing, and my mind is growing feeble), I think I will be happy to get rid of my car and not deal with the hassle and expense of owning, maintaining, fueling, and insuring it.

But I do have some concerns. I'm sure these vehicles will work fine in the summer, but how will they handle a prairie winter with several inches of snow on the streets, black ice, potholes, and -30 degrees temperatures?
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good point!! I really don't want to get old :twitch:

another good point and how many sensors will need to be maintained at what cost
 
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Sensors, radar, etc, might not be quick enough for someone quickly stepping out from between parked cars. This is how some people do suicide. The car runs them over. Doesn't matter who is driving the auto or a human being.

Because the person stepped out mid street and it was dark and got hit by the car, it was the human's fault. Remember when you were a kid and you came to a crosswalk, the adult always told you to look both ways. Then cross when safe to do so. You were taught to cross at the crosswalks. I don't think anybody was told to just run out into the street, the car will stop in time....

As human drivers have emotions, they are easily distracted (ever hear of road rage)... If your one of those people who think they can multitask while driving (ie. texting, having a conversation with your both your hands, reaching for something on the floor) your putting yourself and your vehicle at risk, and the faster you go the less time you have to react.

Yes oneday cars will not have Internal Combustion Engines (ICE) or fossil burning fuels. Electrics will be silent, in our noisy world, and hard to hear, unlike current ICE engines.
 
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