Seeking Arrangments
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that disclaimer is simply a legal cover-their-ass statement
one time i reported a known escort to the SA management, and included a link to her escort website, which used exactly the same photographs and on-line name as her SA profile
exactly NOTHING was done about her advertising or her membership
I've met some super sweet guys on there, and had long lasting, rewarding arrangements from it. It just takes some patience to search for a good match.
I have been active off and on for a little over a year on SA. Everything said above is true... there are pros, pro-ams, scammers, and some sad, desperate women. But there are also some gems. I met a lot of women and had some great relationships, and when the chemistry is there it's unbeatable. It's easy to spot the scammers and crazies, and most of the women I met were good people. I had some straight vanilla relationships, and also met a couple subs on there, and there are a *lot* of women to choose from in any decent size town. But you have to put time into it, getting to know people and how they work. I found that the relationships were costing less than pooning with A-grade providers... until you start thinking about the time you're investing.
of the scammers on there, are a small group who have probably been on it for a few years. I was approached twice under different names by the same gal in california who talked it up big until a meeting was proposed, at which time she wanted a pile of money and a separate room.
Yes I agree, I think if you are careful you can find a couple of long term gems. You don't need to go for a whole pile of them, find a few and stop there.
Yes I agree, I think if you are careful you can find a couple of long term gems. You don't need to go for a whole pile of them, find a few and stop there.
I have been trying it for a few weeks and have met several very nice young women. There are certainly not so nice ones there but I find it is fairly easy to weed them out. I have narrowed things down and will likely be entering into a long-term arrangement with one very nice woman who is very genuine and with whom I get along with on more than just a physical level. Overall I suspect the monthly costs will be less than what I have been putting out on seeing SPs (will really depend on me and how generous I get with gifts - I tend to like giving them but that is me and nothing to do with her). She is a 21 year old Japanese student and if ever reviewed as an SP would certainly review very high.
WH
WH
They are all really nice relationships at first. It starts out clean then they start hitting you with a extra 1000 dollars here then $4000 there then they need. $20,000 for something else. They need a car so there is the lease for the audi. Then the monthly fee for the apartment. That is nt so bad until you add the fact that they become busy when you want them. Or when you go over to the apartment or house you bought and they have some other guy there. They get pissed off because you did not call and who are you to ask them questions on what they are doing.
Been there done that. It might be strange but I too get tired about being used in this agreement. My suggestion is get yourself a good lawyer who is a real asshole with they young ladies. Some will wander off into the night but others try and milk it if they know too much.
SP relation is much better at least for me. I can have the fun part at the beinging without the pain at the back end.
It seems like the more the SP gets the more they want. What you do at the beginging is so romantic in their eyes but after a few of those situations they expect more. So the first months are great then it gets old quick.
Or that has been my experience.
Been there done that. It might be strange but I too get tired about being used in this agreement. My suggestion is get yourself a good lawyer who is a real asshole with they young ladies. Some will wander off into the night but others try and milk it if they know too much.
SP relation is much better at least for me. I can have the fun part at the beinging without the pain at the back end.
It seems like the more the SP gets the more they want. What you do at the beginging is so romantic in their eyes but after a few of those situations they expect more. So the first months are great then it gets old quick.
Or that has been my experience.
gets old quick is a matter of control. I have seen two of them now for over a year, and its not quite like a steady arrangement, but rather when we both have a need. I would support the SA board whole heartedly, but it is what it is, and some of these gals will soak you if you let them. Dickson sounds like you did that. I found the more you give these gals, the less they like you. No kidding. They think you are a real jerk. Give them a million dollars and you really would be a jerk to them not a hero.
There is merit in both types of arrangements, the regular sp we meet on this board vs the SA style.
There is merit in both types of arrangements, the regular sp we meet on this board vs the SA style.
Good point about control. Personally I have had a few that get out of control fast. I have the mistress arrangements and exclusive arrangements as well. The SP is just so much better for me. I guess I can control it so much better. The relationship kind never seems to work out. You just seem to get dragged into their shit world. I really do not want their problems. I have enough of my own. I hate it when old boy friends come into it or her family issues or her additions ie children or her other problems.
Dickson and newatit: Thanks for the input.
I have now entered into an exclusive mistress relationship with the young woman mentioned above. Hopefully it goes well. If things go sideways I will report back.
Wish me luck.
WH
I have now entered into an exclusive mistress relationship with the young woman mentioned above. Hopefully it goes well. If things go sideways I will report back.
Wish me luck.
WH
Good luck! Protect your back or get a good lawyer. Keep it simple watch your pocketsand most important enjoy.
Regard
Dickson
Just thought I would report back as promised.
The Japanese student went well until she moved to Toronto.
Other than that it was great with no complications.
I then had a brief relationship with a young South American girl. I ended that because there was no real connection. No complications from that either.
I am now entering into a relationship with a young Indo-Canadian girl. We just had our first tryst. I was shocked when she did CIMWS. Pleasantly shocked, I should add. Will wait to see how long this goes.
WH
The Japanese student went well until she moved to Toronto.
Other than that it was great with no complications.I then had a brief relationship with a young South American girl. I ended that because there was no real connection. No complications from that either.
I am now entering into a relationship with a young Indo-Canadian girl. We just had our first tryst. I was shocked when she did CIMWS. Pleasantly shocked, I should add.
Will wait to see how long this goes. WH
Drink lots of pineapple juice and it might increase the likelihood of it lasting.......
I was shocked when she did CIMWS. Pleasantly shocked, I should add.
Stay away from coffee...
And you agree to what? Honestly, my biggest problem with SA is that if I am paying then I am more interested in the bedroom than the chatroom
if I want a real relationship shouldering someone else's problems then I go to OKCupid.Also, a few hundred per what? Meeting? Week? Month?
I just wanted to say how much I appreciate your continued input, Dickson. You write well; you are generous about the information which you offer and the information is invariably relevant to others; you do not vaunt yourself or come off as "superior"; and you avoid ad hominem attacks. All in all, this is ideally what this section of PERB is all about. So, thanks Dickson.
And you agree to what? Honestly, my biggest problem with SA is that if I am paying then I am more interested in the bedroom than the chatroom
Also, a few hundred per what? Meeting? Week? Month?
I would assume he means per meeting.
If you want a monthly arrangement, the average tends to be $3,000.00 per month for roughly 8-10 meetings per month. Some women are ok with $2,000.00 per month. Hosting is of course an issue - if she can host it is less expensive because you do not have to get hotel rooms every time.
On a per meet basis the average request is $500.00 each time, though I have found that most women are ok with $300.00. Again, lack of hosting can up this if you need to get a hotel room.
The per meet ones are closer to an SP, though the meetings are not as fixed in terms of time. Most meetings last at least a few hours - on average 3. There are also no fixed parameters about what can and cannot be done - ie it is all open for discussion. Certainly the "multiple shots on goal" is never an issue. You shoot as many times as you can.
It is an interesting comparison between SPs and SBs. SPs are more "efficient" and less "work", if I can put it that way. So in that sense I agree with Dickson that if you are just looking to meet for a certain service they are the preferred route, as there is no concern about getting involved in their personal lives, and very little concern about the meetings being exposed, particularly as SPs very rarely will know your real name. SBs run more of a risk of getting dragged into personal matters, and more of a risk of being exposed if the SB gets emotionally attached, particularly as it is very difficult to see them frequently without them knowing your real identity. That said, the meetings are longer and more "gf like", and if you like to see your partner enjoying herself and having orgasms, SBs are in my view better for that, as they are not professionals in this type of business (some are but you can usually figure out who is and who is not), and given that you will tend to be their main source of sexual contact, they are more inclined to want to orgasm (usually multiple times) during the meetings.
Both SPs and SBs have their good points and bad points. Kind of depends what you are looking for. If you want simple sex, SPs are better in my opinion. If you want a more intimate gf experience, than SBs are preferable in my opinion. Problem with SBs, as pointed out by Dickson, is the GFE can go beyond the sex part and become more of a real GF, which could get uncomfortable if that is not what you are looking for.
To each their own! As long as everyone is happy and satisfied with whatever relationship you are doing, be it SP or SB, or a combination of both, all is good.
WH
In relation to Bean75, the gal did scale back the demand, and even at that I did not give her anything. Just mentioning that a little hard nosed bargaining goes a long way. But that was two years ago. We since became good friends and have a good relationship. Sure I help her out, but it is kind of long term. And not so involved.
In the SA spirit, there are so many possibilities that it is hard to identify which one might really work for both parties. You kind of arrive at an arrangement. Actually with this new law happening, I kind of think the SA thing may be the way to go. I still carry on with three gals I met there, on an occasional basis and we are friends more than sex partners. We get together for lunch, coffee, a walk and talk, as well as more when both in the mood. You don't have to have a specific arrangement for sex, a certain act etc. which will violate the new laws coming. This is a coupling arrangement and just because cash is part of it, as long it isn't for sex, but to help out a good friend, then so be it. Considering the price of a lawyer to deal with the other thing, this might be quite reasonable.
In the SA spirit, there are so many possibilities that it is hard to identify which one might really work for both parties. You kind of arrive at an arrangement. Actually with this new law happening, I kind of think the SA thing may be the way to go. I still carry on with three gals I met there, on an occasional basis and we are friends more than sex partners. We get together for lunch, coffee, a walk and talk, as well as more when both in the mood. You don't have to have a specific arrangement for sex, a certain act etc. which will violate the new laws coming. This is a coupling arrangement and just because cash is part of it, as long it isn't for sex, but to help out a good friend, then so be it. Considering the price of a lawyer to deal with the other thing, this might be quite reasonable.
they do a search and if you're SP they kick you off.. so use a pic that doesn't look like you and a diff #... harder to hide if you have tats
