Seduction is dead!

[Dickson]

Well for all of you who had given me suggestions on the seduction thread a while ago. I have to say that even when I:

A) Notifed the lady what I wanted and made it clear not only did I want to be seduced I made it clear how I wanted to seduce me. She told me point blank she could handle it and was up for it. She had very good references.

B) Did not book an all nighter but I did book a multiple hour date.

C) Had the gift, Badger my man.

D) No I did not tell her about my dick so that is not an excuse. No dick talk at all. She acted surprised in a good why when it came out at the end.

E) I did not talk much at all, matter of fact she asked me why I was so quite. She went to the bathroom four times in the three hours we were together. She did not like how I did not say much and spent time looking her in her eyes. She just kept looking away.

F) I did not talk about money. so that was not part of the problem.

G) Did not talk about Elimidate

H) She did not even come over to my side of the couch. So I was very very patient

In the end of the night she just got up and bent over and told me to go to town. Dam that is not my idea of seduction.

So maybe it is me. But it is sad when a guy can not even pay for seduction I just say what is wrong with the world. OK it is me!

Sorry guys Seduction is dead. It is a world of half hour dates, disconnection, Wham Bam thank you mam. Just do not feel it any more. Where have all the good SPs gone?

As I fly back to Europe once again, I have to say the Hobby is being taken over by emotional machines even in one of the most physical personal touch businesses. The business is now becoming dominated by SPs that phyically and emotional dominate and do not put down a guard. It is about more pain, more abuse, lack of emotion. Just look at even the porn. Look at the politics. North America is changing and becoming so extreme. It is not extreme it does not work. People are zoning out unless it is extreme. The idea of seduction is disappearing. It is now "hit me with a hammer" and lets go at it. No wonder the dinner dates are disapearing unless someone can get something for nothing.

Sorry but I am so disillusioned at the moment.

Sad just SAD!

 

[blazejowski]

Not this again.... :doh:

 

[Flanders]

At least he got the "SAD" part right...

 

[Ned Flanders]

At least he got the "SAD" part right...

If the same thing happens over and over with different people, maybe the issue is you.

 

[Alix Turner]

Sorry but I am so disillusioned at the moment.

Sad just SAD!

I think you have seduction confused with either a trained monkey, a magic spell, or something that thrives in a vacuum...



on the bright side now that you've done everything within reason to control the environment in a way that forces an emotional response... with absolutely miserable results
it might seem a little more reasonable to sit back and examine what kind of logic is driving you to be obsessed with the seduction you are downright entitled to.... and figure out how on earth you got to the brink of throwing tantrums in response to being denied something that you can only describe by saying what you think it isn't

 

[Alix Turner]

Before you jump all over him gentlemen.

He did pay for a service that the lady in question said she could deliver and didn't. I think it's a good discussion and I think the ladies may have some insight. Is he out of line from what you have read or did the SP not deliver on the promised services?


**I do realise chemistry would play a part in this, so really we are all just guessing anyways! But hey, it's a fun discussion

I think im funny, I would feel confident saying I have a well developed sense of humour if you told me this was a very important factor for you.. would it be my fault if you saw absolutely nothing about my sense of humour appealing for the duration of the evening? Lets assume, I was feeling in great form.. apart from the fact that I couldn't get you to smile... once

 

[Arrrg]

I don't think seduction can be pre-planned. As Alix says, you have limited time to put your best face for something so you have to pick a direction and if it flops, well there's no time to fix that really.

 

[nd1]

One Can Only be Seduced if One Wants to be

I think you have seduction confused with either a trained monkey, a magic spell, or something that thrives in a vacuum...
figure out how on earth you got to the brink of throwing tantrums in response to being denied something that you can only describe by saying what you think it isn't

Whereas seduction is an art and not a science (in other words, it cannot be reproduced every time one wants to), I personally don't find seductresses all that hard to come by -- of the dozen or so ladies (yes, I know, I should go out more!) I have met, at least 3 or 4 can play that part very well.

I have a hunch that Alix is one who knows that art very well and I look forward to experiencing it...!

 

[the old maxx50]

Seduction only takes a minute , it is a sly smile, sparkling twinkle in her eyes .. a touch and the words ...."I want your cock"" .. That what gets me every time ..There is nothing put one .. just a desire for my cock .

I used to do 2 hour sessions and very seldom got seduced It was only after years of .. thinking that 2 hrs would get me horny enough to cum when i a with them that I found out that was not the case .. the longer the appointment the less likely .. hen it came to have ing the best sessions .. actually finally being able to finish ,, it was all mental .. I was mentally seduced by her and others long before got together .. It is called fore play .

How you talk on the phone .. or even text ( I love dirty text) I think it is very important that you have some desire for them I want to seem that person because you are attracted to them .. Not because they come well reviewed , or charge the most , or any think else that is there to promote them .. You have to want them ,, because of the pictures , the way you have seen them interact on the boards or the was they interact with you with first contact .. It helps if you know them and they have met you ..even if you never had sex with them ,then you both have the desire to find out, the mystery seduces . ( that is where being a driver help me and them .. because some wanted to know what i was like and what i had and me like wise ).. And then there is how you get together ..

Dickson you have all way set up these malty hour , or over night appointments ,, diner , shopping .. all in an attempt to get to know each other , make each other comfortable . It succeeds in making it seem like every day living and that she is just there for the money ... Seduction like I said only takes a minute it should of all ready happened before long before you do any of those things .. YOU DON'T NEED DINNER , OR SHOPPING TO HAVE SOME GREAT SEX..

Where I found .. going to a women play put them more at easy , because they are in a familiar environment ,, like wise it was true for me to have women to my place because i was more comfortable there ... .So I found with most of the women I have seen in the last few years . the best for me on a first sexual encounter ( but they all had met me as a driver ) was to pick them up , and spend time talking on the drive to my place .. about 20 min.. If we had all ready be testing sexy thought before .. there was that seductive vibe in the air .. there was the looks ,, the genital touching( yes genital) I on many occasions i was up long before we were in the door . . And if you start taken close off the minute your in the door .. your seduced ..

It seem Dickson that you don't have your own space ,, you are always traveling, ,I suspect you are always using a taxi or limo. Do you ever rent a car an drive your self .. And you always stay in hotels where maybe a nice condo.. would change things up a bit less control . less intimidating When ever you can take a few day in a place .. allow seduction to take place .. YOu need a home that is where most seduction takes place Just dropping in and hoping to be seduced with out something already going on for you and for them .. I think that makes it very hard for some women .. But there are women that are natures .. and if you ever meet them you can't resist .. I know i was lucky to meet those that could seduce me ...And just the thought of them still does every day ..

I say seduction is love .. but love come in many forms .and means many things It has very little to do with great sex, beauty ,,attitude or personality it actually come from your honesty with our selves and others .. There can be open and honest feeling between two people that only just meet , that want to have sex .. even if you are the client and they are being payed ..
If you can find that in each other then you will truely be seduced .. and screwed LOL..

 

[the old maxx50]

You know i am not taking to yiu HHHHH , because e have never and I don't send you dirty talk on text ..:eyebrows:

I hope you don't class this a fore play

 

[Flanders]

I don't disagree with you at all and I also think the fact that he was "quiet" and didn't participate in the conversation helped seal his fate. Conversation is a two way street. Talking to much is a pain in da A*s and not participating in 2 way conversation is down right PAINFUL!! Nothing worse than having to try to come up with conversation with someone who won't converse :doh:

Seduction requires two active participants. Even the seducee needs to play a part to keep things moving along. Mr. Dickson seems to think that one he drops the bankroll on the night table, he has no more responsibility in the success/failure of his session. I doubt this is how he approaches his fabulously successful international businesses...

 

[badbadboy]

Thing that is missing on everyone's part is "spontaneity". You can't buy it, you can not pre plan it and you certainly can not pre stage it.

I would prefer to throw a blank piece of paper with nothing on it than send an email to an SP on how/what/when etc the 'event' will be staged.

If there are any SP's up to Dickson's challenge they would certainly qualify for the best actress IMHO.

Sorry Dickson, I think you are trying to pay for the unachievable which is a natural spontaneity.

 

[steverino]

It seems to me that in order to enjoy the GFE and related expereinces one has to suspend their disbelief and enjoy the ride. I think it is fine to give ladies an advance notice of things you enjoy, but fully scripting the encounter out is likely to end in disappointment.

 

[Ray]

My experience has been that seduction and flirting take place in a public area where you build up that anticipation of getting the other person alone in a private place.
To meet in a hotel room, with just the two of you, seems like a rather awkward way to flirt and seduce the other, when you're meeting for the first time and know that she's being paid to bang you before the evening is over.

 

[sevenofnine]

you know when you have a big desire to do this,
everything seems so perfect and magical.


but when you have seen lots and lots of sps and your desire wanes reality hits.

 

[steverino]

Like ray said it is hard to be seduced by someone you paid, let alone wrote out the script for how the seduction should unfold.

 

[InnocentBoy]

Seduction aside why is it that 1/10 sp's make the move even to grab a guys cock in the first five minutes? Hell thats enough seduction to me.

 

[Pillowtalk]

..then clearly you aren't as funny as you think you are lol

I don't disagree with you at all and I also think the fact that he was "quiet" and didn't participate in the conversation helped seal his fate. Conversation is a two way street. Talking to much is a pain in da A*s and not participating in 2 way conversation is down right PAINFUL!! Nothing worse than having to try to come up with conversation with someone who won't converse :doh:

AND who spends the time he is not talking STARING at you.

It must have been painful in extreme.

 

[uncleg]

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..........some people still seem to be good at it.

 

[sevenofnine]

Hi Dickson,

I have noticed a few posts about you saying I refuse to see you. For the record, the reason I don’t is because when you originally requested to see me and one of my girlfriends you (emails later) told me you were setting it up for a third party. I found that to be lacking in honesty/integrity and you made us both feel unsafe. I don’t think it’s a stretch why I may now be uncomfortable seeing you.

As for your threads on how women can’t seduce you, that seems highly unlikely with so many beautiful and talented SP’s in Vancouver and in the world. Perhaps your definition of it is incorrect, and so you will never be ‘seduced’ but continue to be disappointed time and again. It also sounds like you are sending out some strange vibes, just sayin’.

Shelby

you know just thinking about this,

i would be curious about what the lady has to say involved in all of this
there are two sides to every story.

and i think miss shelby has brought it out as well there is another side to this and so far we have only heard one.
and she for one is not really happy with the o.p.