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School set to punish over "rape chant"

SOURCE: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2013/09/09/bc-ubc-frosh-rape-chant.html

B.C. university pulls frosh support over rape chant
UBC will no longer support orientation events of Commerce Undergrad Society
CBC News Posted: Sep 9, 2013 2:36 PM PT Last Updated: Sep 9, 2013 4:00 PM PT


The University of British Columbia has pulled its support for commerce students' frosh week events following allegations students used a chant promoting non-consensual sex with minors during a recent orientation event for first-year students.

"What is reported to have happened at frosh this year is deeply upsetting and is completely inconsistent with the values of the school and UBC,” said Robert Helsley, dean of the Sauder School of Business, in a statement issued Monday.

"Based on initial information I have received, there is enough for me to conclude that the school should end its support for frosh."

In addition to withdrawing support for the Commerce Undergraduate Society frosh events, university officials said they are also launching a fact-finding investigation into the incident and increasing the emphasis in the curriculum on issues related to respect, dignity and ethics.

The school said it would look to work with the student society to develop more appropriate orientation events for first-year students in the future.

"While such activities are completely unacceptable, and it is easy to direct blame, it is my view that all of us can play a greater role in addressing discriminating and hurtful language and actions,” said UBC's vice-president of students Louise Cowin.

"The current moment provides an opportunity for the UBC community to engage in such reflection and learning," said Cowin.

Chant used on bus trip
The use of the chant at UBC came to light after a first-year business student posted the lyrics on Twitter, condemning the chant, along with a report in the student newspaper, The Ubyssey.

Read more about the frosh event
The chant condones non-consensual sex with underage girls saying, "Y-O-U-N-G at UBC, we like 'em young, Y is for your sister, O is for oh so tight, U is for underage, N is for no consent, G is for go to jail."

Students say the chant has been used for 20 years, and this year frosh week organizers didn't prevent it, allowing students to chant it "in the bus," but not in public.

The Commerce Undergraduate Society has issued a statement saying there was little they could do to stop the chants.

The revelations come only days after student leaders at Nova Scotia's Saint Mary's University were caught on camera chanting about non-consensual underage sex during frosh week at the Halifax school.

Jared Perry, chair of Students Nova Scotia and president of the student council at Saint Mary's, stepped down from his position in light of the controversy.
 
SOURCEW: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2013/09/08/ns-saint-marys-rape-degrees.html

Pro-rape chant prompts Saint Mary’s grad to return degrees
Former Saint Mary's frosh leader protests $70 fee
CBC News Posted: Sep 8, 2013 10:15 AM AT Last Updated: Sep 8, 2013 10:42 AM AT

One Saint Mary's University graduate is returning his degrees and a second is calling for a boycott of a $70 fee paid to the student association after a frosh-week chant glorifying rape was posted online.

The frosh event was organized by the Saint Mary's University Students' Association.

In a video posted to Instagram, the students used the word "young" as an acronym in a chant that included the lines: “Y is for your sister […] U is for underage, N is for no consent […] Saint Mary’s boys we like them young.”

Daren Miller said he was outraged when the chant began going viral.

The Calgary man earned two degrees from SMU, but now plans to return them because of the chant.

“It's very sad to think about returning these degrees, but it is necessary to speak because it is so wrong,” he said.

The university's response to the controversy was to appoint the former head of Nova Scotia's task force on cyberbullying to advise the president's council on sexual violence prevention.

'I don’t want adolescents to have to go on stage and have a fake an orgasm competition to win a TV.'
—Alexandria Bennett, on SMU frosh events
Critics like student Alexandria Bennett said that's not good enough. The former frosh leader said she complained about the chant last year.

She said students should be able to withhold the mandatory annual $70 fee paid to the student association. It helps fund things like Dirty Bingo, which was the last frosh event she attended.

“I don’t want adolescents to have to go on stage and have a fake an orgasm competition to win a TV. That's disgusting to me,” she said.

Student representatives oversee orientation week at Saint Mary's, a common practice across the country, while university administrators serve more in a "consultative" role, university spokesman Steve Proctor said earlier this week.

Jared Perry, who was the president of the Saint Mary's University Student Association when the chant was filmed, has since resigned.

The university said two student organizers will face disciplinary action over the incident after someone launched a formal complaint for alleged violations of the Student Code of Conduct.

Proctor said SMU will not name the students, in accordance with university policy.

The university has already stated that the students' union executive and all 80 frosh week leaders will undergo sensitivity training after the incident, which university president Colin Dodds called "inexcusable.”
 

Tugela

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I think people are going way overboard about this, largely because neither the students doing the chanting, nor the people getting upset about it, understand what it is all about.

These kids are not advocating sex with 12-13 year olds, they are singing a verse that has been around on campuses for a long time.

IMO it started on the campus's of Californian Universities and Colleges as a way of thumbing their noses against authority. Why you may ask? Because, in California (and no where else in North America is it this draconian) the age of consent is 18 and there are NO exceptions, even if close in age. Sex before 18 is 100% illegal and will get you sent to prison for years as a sex offender if caught at it.

What age are typical students as freshman in college or university? 17. And with all the parties going on in their first year, they are making out like bunnies. This song/chant is a way of taunting authorities that they are going to do it no matter what the law says.

That is what it is about, not banging 12 year olds.

Why are Canadian students doing it even though they are all legal and this song doesn't apply to them? Because they are dumbasses who don't know better, they are doing it because it is fashionable to do it, not because there is a hidden message.

This whole episode just highlights how stupid people on both sides of an argument can be.
 

Tugela

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Tugela, that may all be true, BUT what about this part?

N is for no consent
If someone is underage and engages in consensual sex, the law does not recognize the consent. That is what the "N" stands for, not actual non-consent.

Also, as you put it, your "reasoning" is based on your opinion as opposed to some independent source:
Are you seriously suggesting that they are openly looking for 12 year olds to rape???

This "chant" is apparently common from coast to coast, so it is likely being done everywhere. It did not come from Canada because if it did they would have to be talking about 12-13 year olds. That means it originated somewhere else, where statutory rape applies to college level ages, and the only place I can think of where that is the case is California. There are other states in the US with high ages of consent, but AFAIK all of those also have close of age exceptions. It is only in California where this would be a real problem for students at college.
 

Tugela

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The typical student graduates high school at 18.
Where I grew up you started school when you were 6 months either way of being 6 at the start of the school year. Half of freshman starting at University were 17, as was I. They turned 18 that school year.
 
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