Saudi Beauty Pageants

[Krustee]

Saudi Beauty Pageants

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia (AP) - Sukaina al-Zayer is an unlikely beauty queen hopeful. She covers her face and body in black robes and an Islamic veil, so no one can tell what she looks like. She also admits she's a little on the plump side.
But at Saudi Arabia's only beauty pageant, the judges don't care about a perfect figure or face. What they're looking for in the quest for "Miss Beautiful Morals" is the contestant who shows the most devotion and respect for her parents.

"The idea of the pageant is to measure the contestants' commitment to Islamic morals... It's an alternative to the calls for decadence in the other beauty contests that only take into account a woman's body and looks," said pageant founder Khadra al-Mubarak.

"The winner won't necessarily be pretty," she added. "We care about the beauty of the soul and the morals."

So after the pageant opens Saturday, the nearly 200 contestants will spend the next 10 weeks attending classes and being quizzed on themes including "Discovering your inner strength," "The making of leaders" and "Mom, paradise is at your feet"—a saying attributed to Islam's Prophet Muhammad to underline that respect for parents is among the faith's most important tenets.

Pageant hopefuls will also spend a day at a country house with their mothers, where they will be observed by female judges and graded on how they interact with their mothers, al-Mubarak said. Since the pageant is not televised and no men are involved, contestants can take off the veils and black figure-hiding abayas they always wear in public.

The Miss Beautiful Morals pageant is the latest example of conservative Muslims co-opting Western-style formats to spread their message in the face of the onslaught of foreign influences flooding the region through the Internet and satellite television.

A newly created Islamic music channel owned by an Egyptian businessman aired an "American Idol"-style contest for religious-themed singers this month. And several Muslim preachers have become talk-show celebrities by adopting an informal, almost Oprah-like television style, in contrast to the solemn clerics who traditionally appear in the media.

Now in its second year, the number of pageant contestants has nearly tripled from the 75 women who participated in 2008. The pageant is open to women between 15 and 25. The winner and two runners up will be announced in July, with the queen taking home $2,600 and other prizes. The runners up get $1,300 each.

Last year's winner, Zahra al-Shurafa, said the contest gives an incentive to young women and teens to show more consideration toward their parents.

"I tell this year's contestants that winning is not important," said al-Shurafa, a 21-year-old English major. "What is important is obeying your parents."

There are few beauty pageants in the largely conservative Arab world. The most dazzling is in Lebanon, the region's most liberal country, where contestants appear on TV in one-piece swimsuits and glamorous evening gowns and answer questions that test their confidence and general knowledge.

There are no such displays in ultra-strict Saudi Arabia, where until Miss Beautiful Morals was inaugurated last year, the only pageants were for goats, sheep, camels and other animals, aimed at encouraging livestock breeding.

This year's event kicks off Saturday in the mainly Shiite Muslim town of Safwa, and mostly draws local Shiite contestants. But it's open to anyone—and this year, 15 Sunni Muslims are participating, al-Mubarak said. "This is a beautiful thing," she added.

There have long been tensions between the two sects in the kingdom. Hard-liners in the Sunni majority consider Shiites infidels, and the Shiites often complain of discrimination and greater levels of poverty.

Al-Zayer, a 24-year-old international management student, said she signed up because she is the "spitting image" of her mother. "I'm proud of my devotion to my parents," she said.

What does she think of Lebanon's beauty contests?

"It's a matter of cultural differences," she said. "In Saudi Arabia, they are Islamically unacceptable."

Awsaf al-Mislim, another contestant, said if she does not win the crown, she will have won something more important.

"I will be proud to show everyone that I competed with the others over my devotion to my parents," the 24-year-old said.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D980U07G0&show_article=1

 

[spicdick]

many the judges can scan them or Xray thems.
It is hard to believes that thier culture would keeps them in BLACK...how stupido is that? Why not white so nots so hot?
When I was in Thailand i saw guy walking with his 3 wives all in veils but not over face but ladies lips had wooden plate and pin so she cannot talk.
These cultures is too weird for me to understand. And the ladies not rebel.

 

[spicdick]

maybe they needs some high tec lulu lemmon fabric desigers for the new cave girl look. maybe silver or see thru mylar.

 

[Krustee]

In intense sunlight, white would be much hotter. Think about it. A lot of the light will pass right through a light white fabric and heat the body beneath. The pigments in a black fabric absorb more of the light, thus heating the cloth rather than the body. The light-weight fabric has very little thermal mass & thus the sporadic contact of skin with a long flowing robe will transfer little actual heat.

One would have to use much heavier fabrics for white to effectively reflect a large percentage of light & then there would be little ventilation to allow for proper cooling though persperation. Black is not a fashion statement in desert environments.

You don't know much about physics do you?


Heat is energy & is transferred via a physical process governed by the laws of Thermodynamics.

For something to heat up it must have an energy transfer from something else.

Energy from the sun is transferred into an object via absorbing the radiant energy. This energy manifests itself in the form of light & heat.

Concerning heat energy & Thermodynamics you should read this:

Laws of Thermodynamics:

* Zeroeth Law of Thermodynamics - Two systems each in thermal equilibrium with a third system are in thermal equilibrium to each other.
* First Law of Thermodynamics - The change in the energy of a system is the amount of energy added to the system minus the energy spent doing work.
* Second Law of Thermodynamics - It is impossible for a process to have as its sole result the transfer of heat from a cooler body to a hotter one.
* Third Law of Thermodynamics - It is impossible to reduce any system to absolute zero in a finite series of operations. This means that a perfectly efficient heat engine cannot be created.

http://physics.about.com/od/thermodynamics/p/thermodynamics.htm

On the matter of colour:
There is no such thing as colour, it is just the frequency of the radiant energy we perceive from the sun or another light source.

The sun's energy comes to earth in an array of frequencies most of which we cannot see & some of which is blocked by the atmosphere of our planet.

Read the following on colour & heat transfer:

First, I have to explain something, just incase you don't know.

Colour is determined by what parts of light an object relfects and which it absorbs.

Light is composed of three MAIN colours, blue, red, and green (the primary colours of light, not to be confused with the primary colours of pigment, which are blue, red and yellow). All colours are made up of a mixture of a certain amount of each of these colours. Yellow light, for example, is made up of 50% green light and 50% blue light.

Something that appears to be yellow, therefor, is absorbing the red light, and reflecting the green and blue light. Your eye sees the reflected light, so the object appears to be green.

Something that appears to be white reflects all light, something that appears to be black absorbs all light.

So something that is black is absorbing all light that hits it, and this light is turned into heat, which makes the black object heat up.

White objects reflect all light (or almost all), so they do not heat up nearly as quickly as black objects.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_is_color_related_to_heat_absorption

The key thing to remember is that, in accordance with the laws of thermodynamics, things that absorb heat are absorbing the energy from the environment or "system" & thus will heat up.

Heat energy will always try to equalize so eventually, no matter how good the insulation, the object will become the same temp as it's environment, unless there is something that removes that energy or adds to it.

For example, your refrigerator, it keeps things cooler because it has a heat exchanger system which removes the heat from the space inside.

Read this:

Everything is ENERGY!!!!

Energy is potential matter & matter is potential energy.

So, what does that matter?

When it comes to your heat problem, not a hell of a lot other than your desire to change the energy in your apartment.

The energy in your apartment is occuring as a result of the radiant energy from the sun which can be felt in the form of heat.

Now the funny thing about radiant energy, or "heat", is that heat likes to equalize in the environment and also is absorbed by matter.
In the environment that is your apartment, the heat from outside is absorbed by the walls & the walls radiate that heat into the air of your apartment.

This is basically heat transfer.

The heat absorbed by the outside gets absorbed & radiates into your personal space.

Your air conditioner changes that heat by the use of a compressor & coil type of system which creates cooling by removing heat energy from a closed system.

This is accomplished through compression & expansion of a substance (in your case freon) which when compressed creates high heat & turns to gas.
When this gas is pushed through a coil under pressure then through an expansion valve with a small orifice which opens into an expansion coil.
THe expansion coil is under a vacuum from the compressor removing the freon at the other end of the coil.
Pushing the freon into the expansion coil allows there to be a rapid change in pressure as it enters the vacuumed space, thus turning the gas into a liquid.
This change in the state of the freon causes the dramatic change in heat.

This brings you to Newton's law of cooling, which states that the rate of heat loss of a body is proportional to the difference in temperatures between the body and its surroundings, or environment.

So the amount of cooling you add to the room is equal to the amount of heat you remove from the room.

Thus if you do not send that heat outside of the apartment through the window or glass sliding door, you will not create a temperature differential.

You need to remove the heat or all you do is reach a state of equalibrium in your space.


Written by some asshole on another escort review board which I am not allowed to provide a link to or I will be beaten to a bloody pulp by the Moderators here.

Quite simple really.

 

[spicdick]

after all that , is best to wear a white shirt for cool or black?
my swimming pool down south has black plastic solar pipe to heat pool water not white. they so hot cannot touch sometime in mid day.
i thinks guy who says black is better is thinking of something else

 

[summerbreeze]

I believe Krustee means to refer to Stefan–Boltzmann's law re heat radiation absorbtion.

You guys should go debate these things on a physics site or something.

 

[athaire]

Arguing with yourself......WTF.....

 

[hunsperger]

...

all things being equal...

dark clothing becomes more warm or less cool...

or...

light clothing becomes less warm or remains cooler...

cold is just an absence of heat...

but heat is not an absence of cold...

 

[henryhill]

Arguing with yourself......WTF.....

Too funny. He's really trying hard this time isn't he?

 

[Krustee]

Nice try Krustee.

The true no-tech cooling effect in the desert is ample ventilation, thus the loose flowing clothing which keeps pumping air as one moves.

You really don't know anything about physics do you?

Really, the point of clothing in the desert is not cooling anyways because you will not cool below ambient air temperature anyways. The point is to protect from ultraviolet radiation & dark clothing will absorb / block more of that that white clothing of any weight you would care to wear in that heat.

This makes no sense at all?

You are suggesting to wear a fabric that you clearly admit absorbs heat energy.
You are also guessing that ultraviolet light has something to do with a person suffering heatstroke.

There is no doubt that any material between you & the suns rays will reduce ultraviolet exposure but the original question was what colour keeps you cooler in the desert sun.
That would be white.

Lightweight fabrics pass more air than heavier fabrics & thin dark pigmented fabrics absorb / block more frequencies of light than thin unpigmented fabrics (creates darker shade).

If lightweight fabrics are better for ventilation then why use heavy fabric?

Thin dark fabrics may block the frequencies of light but keep in ming they are absorbing all that energy & the form of heat.

Un-pigmented or white fabrics reflect light frequencies, which means they do NOT absorb the energy. (actually some will be absorbed but significantly less)

If no energy is absorbed then there is not heat accumulation.

Why would you wear black that does absorb the light frequencies if the goal is to stay cool?

Either fabric will dissipate the energy of absorbed light by radiating infrared radiation in all directions.

What do you NOT understand about dark colour absorbing the sun's energy?
The fact is a dark colour will have significantly more energy to dissipate than the light or white colour fabric.

A dark fabric will have more IR to radiate than an unpigmented one.

Yup!
And how the hell is that a good thing for someone attempting to remain cool?

A light coloured one will allow more of the initial light though than a dark one. on balance, I don't think the temperature difference is great either way you go on colour / pigmentation.

"more of the initial light"????
What the hell does that mean?

The density of the fabric & the colour determines how much light rays get in or through.
White, being more reflective than dark colours, will have less rays getting through.

Dark or light, if the fabric is more like fishnet than a cloth then yes spots open will allow sun through.

The laws of Thermodynamics are empirical, so I would dare say that the argument is over once you determine which absorbs more energy.

 

[Krustee]

Arguing with yourself......WTF.....

How is it you assume I am arguing with myself?

Don't you have somebody to ban on another board?

Too funny. He's really trying hard this time isn't he?

I don't try... I do.

Sorry you don't get that.

 

[bruins70]

Don't you have somebody to ban on another board?

Someone seems to be a wee bit bitter

 

[Valium]

There is no doubt that any material between you & the suns rays will reduce ultraviolet exposure but the original question was what colour keeps you cooler in the desert sun.
That would be white.

Krustee you are wrong as usual.
It's not as simple as black vs. white.

http://www.newsday.com/services/newspaper/printedition/tuesday/news/ny-hshow1512873306jun12,0,1001250.story

We've all heard the advice: Wear white in summer; you'll stay cooler. Then why, you may wonder, do people living in the world's hottest deserts often wear black robes?

According to Louis Bloomfield, a physicist at the University of Virginia, black cloth is dark because it absorbs nearly all the sunlight that strikes it. Inside a piece of black cloth, energy absorbed from sunlight becomes heat energy, which is then radiated from the cloth.

On the other hand, white cloth is white because it absorbs so little sunlight, reflecting and scattering the light instead. Since the same fabric in black will absorb nearly all the sunlight that strikes it, its temperature will climb higher.

But studies with birds show that the black vs. white clothing story is more complicated. Scientists studied white and black plumage in birds. Whether feathers kept a bird cooler or warmer depended not just on the color, but on whether the feathers were fluffed-out or flat. The study found that puffed white feathers let more heat escape in hot temperatures and still air. Black feathers, flattened against a bird's body, were best at holding in heat in chilly weather.

But all bets were off when the wind blew. In a cold breeze, fluffy white feathers held heat against the body better than dark feathers. (Polar bears, with their fluffy white fur, apparently got the memo.) But in a hot breeze, puffy black feathers were better at reducing heat transferred to the skin.

Something similar seems to happen with ordinary fabrics, when the only difference between two fabrics is their black or white color. We know that black clothing absorbs more sunlight than white clothing, and heats up hotter and faster. But as with our feathered friends, whether clothing is body-hugging (like flattened plumage) or loose (like fluffy feathers) can determine just how hot we get.

Take the Bedouins, tribespeople who live in the hot, dry deserts of the Middle East and North Africa. The Bedouins often wear black robes. Why might a black robe feel more comfortable in the heat? Although a white robe reflects sunlight, loose white clothing also unhelpfully reflects body heat back to your skin.

But just as loose, black robes absorb sunlight, they also absorb body heat, pulling it away from your skin. And while a black robe heats up to a higher temperature than a white robe, the extra heat helps the robe function as a sort of (cloth) chimney.

How? Air flows into the robe at the bottom. Inside a black robe, the air quickly heats up, removing heat from the fabric and from you. The heated air rises fast (think hot-air balloon), exiting at the robe's neck. This "convection effect" is enhanced when wind makes the robe billow, creating even better airflow - like a built-in fan.

So if your desert duds are form-fitting, white may indeed be the best choice. But with loose clothing, black may be not just cool-looking, but cooler.

 

[Krustee]

I believe Krustee means to refer to Stefan–Boltzmann's law re heat radiation absorbtion.

You guys should go debate these things on a physics site or something.

Actually, I am referring to the First Law of Thermodynamics but, when looking into your statement, you are right that the emissivity of the heat can be calculated & measured through using Stefan–Boltzmann's law which basically shows that thermal photons at higher frequencies emit much more energy than lower frequencies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermo...e.2C_motions.2C_conduction.2C_and_heat_energy

 

[Krustee]

Krustee you are wrong as usual.
It's not as simple as black vs. white.

http://www.newsday.com/services/newspaper/printedition/tuesday/news/ny-hshow1512873306jun12,0,1001250.story

I never considered that!

Kudos, it sounds very plausible.

I failed to account for the heat generated by our body & the effect of the dark cloth absorbing it.

The one thing that must be considered is that there must be a body of air between the dark cloth & your skin & or the heat from the cloth will be transferred back to you.

Air is a good insulator.

 

[henryhill]

How is it you assume I am arguing with myself?

Don't you have somebody to ban on another board?


I don't try... I do.

Sorry you don't get that.

No, you just try. and more often than not, you fail. but this time, your arguments with peace guy takes you to a new low.

So I stand corrected, you DO fail. way to go.

 

[Fullhouse]

Krustee, I need your help.

I don't understand all this white and black stuff relating to heat.

I have an opportunity to choose between 2 S.P.s I want to see tomorrow.
One is white and one is black. Which one is hotter ????????????

 

[summerbreeze]

are you seeing them in saudi?

 

[Fullhouse]

are you seeing them in saudi?

Is that a new M.P. in Vancouver ???????????

 

[summerbreeze]

yep, new mp, used to be called shoreline