Saddam Execution
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It was posted here yesterday.... i watched it and the only thing that kinda got to me was when the people in the room with him started yelling and calling for Allah or whatever that was.
The place was already bleak and creepy... sheesh as if that isnt bad enough then you have a roomful of bloodthirsty ghouls shouting!
(Not that I gave a shit about Saddam, he got what he deserved but I thought of the countless others who've met that same fate and werent assholes like him)
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The place was already bleak and creepy... sheesh as if that isnt bad enough then you have a roomful of bloodthirsty ghouls shouting!
(Not that I gave a shit about Saddam, he got what he deserved but I thought of the countless others who've met that same fate and werent assholes like him)
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I dunno about that... Hitler did a kick ass job. So did Idi Amin. Pinochet too. I probably missed two handfuls of others.Fudd said:
Let's not forget that the United States supported Sadaam in their bid to wage an 8 year war on Iran. This support came financially and also in arms and other supplies. Knowing he was a brutal dictator was a secondary concern to the United States even though the future repercussions of supporting him were clear.
"Let's not forget that the United States supported Sadaam in their bid to wage an 8 year war on Iran. This support came financially and also in arms and other supplies. Knowing he was a brutal dictator was a secondary concern to the United States even though the future repercussions of supporting him were clear."
I kind of doubt the US said "go kill innocent people and committ atrocities."
The fact is that many countries around the world are not ready for democracy, and we should not make the mistake that they are.
Case in point Iraq is not ready for democracy, and may not be for a very very long time.
The best you can hope for is a benovalent dictator to hold it all together.
I kind of doubt the US said "go kill innocent people and committ atrocities."
The fact is that many countries around the world are not ready for democracy, and we should not make the mistake that they are.
Case in point Iraq is not ready for democracy, and may not be for a very very long time.
The best you can hope for is a benovalent dictator to hold it all together.
I'm a fan of Fidel Castro myself. During his time in power, Cuba has developed a medical system that few countries can duplicate and the level of literacy is one of the highest in the world. And Castro's done this while his country has endured a punishing U.S. embargo that has hurt the Cuban people for decades.chilli said:
Forty-eight years ago today (January 1, 1959), the Cuban revolution forced General Fulgencio Batista to flee the country. The Batista regime, one of the most corrupt ever seen in this hemispere, ruled over the country with an iron fist, outlawing elections and keeping the population in abject poverty, all with the blessing of the United States because Batista was strongly anti-Communist. There's no question in my mind that Cuba has been much better off with Castro at the helm than if Batista and his successors had remained in power.
All that said, if you're a perceived political enemy of the Castro regime, I doubt you'd be inclined to think of it as a benevolent dictatorship. You'd most likely be in prison or in exile. So in a sense, I suppose you're right. There is such a thing as a benevolent dictator, just as long as everyone in the country is on the same page with the same goals and willing to give up personal freedom and the ability to voice dissenting thoughts.
Don't be so naive. Of course the US did not say go and kill innocents and civilians. But the US government knew full well the history of Saddam Hussein as he rose to power, just as the US government has always kept an eye on every politician, revolutionary, freedom fighter leader, cleric and other political personalities out there.... and would be sure to research him before making a foreign policy decision such as sending finances, arms, and supplies. They knew what he was capable of doing and chose instead to turn a blind eye to it because Iran was considered a greater threat.chilli said:
The irony is not that Saddam is executed, but is executed by the very forces that had supported him in his most brutal exercises in Iraqi history (the war on Iran). The hypocrisy is that the US gov can shake its finger and say he has to pay the price for committing genocide against the Kurds, when in fact US companies had supplied chemical weapons to Saddam under sanction of the US gov.
The real reason Saddam is executed is not because he committed atrocities, but because his capture and execution is a political card that can be played to bolster the moral authority of the US to minimize the fallout of a mistaken strategic decision to invade Iraq.
One of the things that I noticed during the hanging is that they did it the "painfull" way. If the noose is right at the back it will snap the neck right away. But in the video they did it to the side, so the person chokes to death.
Many good posts here, but it is kind of anticlimatic though. First it was too long after the fact, secondly with what we know now about the WMDs etc. - you do have to wonder.
The problem is that there are so many more out there, and many of them are closer tohome then we think.
The problem is that there are so many more out there, and many of them are closer tohome then we think.
