RIP Wreck Beach

[poonerboi]

There's tons of kids on wreck beach. My dad took me and my brother often to wreck beach as kids. There is nothing wrong with nudity. It's just a body. Filming and picture taking at wreck while it might be legal, it is very rude. It's a great beach. I never really go to any beaches so I don't go. But if I did go, wreck would be my choice. I'm a natural red head so I just burn lol

I only went once maybe 30 years ago. From what I experienced it's not exactly a good environm ent for children. There were all sorts of naked folks going around with trays and satchels with various alcoholic beverages and narcotics being offered for sale. And not discreetly either. It was in the same fashion as the guy at the stadium shouting out "popcorn,peanuts, icy cold drinks".
And how many closet pedos are posing as naturalists and watching your kid? Using tech to record them secretly? Or worse.
Be naturalists at home with your children if you must, but they should not be made to see and be seen in public until they are old enough to make that choice for themselves.I know a gal that had to go stay with relatives on a rural farm where bathtime meant the whole family gathered in the sauna and bathed each other as was the finnish way apparently. She was traumatized by it and has real issues now she is an adult. And THAT was just family , in private. I cannot comprehend how any parent could think its a good idea to have their kids on display around hundreds of intoxicated strangers.

 

[kelcaine]

I only went once maybe 30 years ago. From what I experienced it's not exactly a good environm ent for children. There were all sorts of naked folks going around with trays and satchels with various alcoholic beverages and narcotics being offered for sale. And not discreetly either. It was in the same fashion as the guy at the stadium shouting out "popcorn,peanuts, icy cold drinks".
And how many closet pedos are posing as naturalists and watching your kid? Using tech to record them secretly? Or worse.
Be naturalists at home with your children if you must, but they should not be made to see and be seen in public until they are old enough to make that choice for themselves.I know a gal that had to go stay with relatives on a rural farm where bathtime meant the whole family gathered in the sauna and bathed each other as was the finnish way apparently. She was traumatized by it and has real issues now she is an adult. And THAT was just family , in private. I cannot comprehend how any parent could think its a good idea to have their kids on display around hundreds of intoxicated strangers.

There are way more predators going after children in other places like Churches opposed to nude beaches, if that is a concern for people. Many predators who target children and pedophiles will frequent schools, playgrounds etc where there are more children. I used to be an educator for many years and this was something we learned about having children in our care. Predators also often will go into jobs in positions of authority and/or where they have easier access to children.

Yes people do walk around selling alcohol and recreational drugs (in my many years being there not narcotics, definitely not openly as weed, mushrooms, LSD are not classified as narcotics) but will say they have this in low volume so it’s discreet. I’m also sure they would not mention what they are selling around young children.

Being a nudist/naturalist where you bring your children to a beach to let them play in the sand and water doing normal beach things is not the same as forcing a child to bath with family & to bath one another. Different setting and pretence. I also don’t understand why you would suggest to be naturalists with children at home then give a traumatizing example of someone who were at home nude with family. I know of a lot of people who grew up with parents as nudists who are well adjusted individuals who have a more healthy view on nudity where it’s not always being sexualized and knowing the difference between sexual and non sexual nudity. Children are not “on display” at a nude beach. Nude beaches are mostly a safe place for all, and welcoming to all.

 

[jeffu]

I'm sure there are way more pedos working in government and the entertainment industry than you'll find at Wreck.

I have many fond memories of that beach and community. One time about 12 years ago I was sitting their (nude) at a log some distance back. There was some guy beside me and a pretty girl a few feet away. I lit a joint and offered to share with them, and they accepted and after that we started chatting away. Shortly after the girl's phone rang and she asked me and they guy if it was ok if her friends came and joined us, and we both said sure. It turns out that this girl worked at a Cactus Club-like restaurant on Commercial and her friends consisted of about 12 girls between the ages of about 19 and 23, all of whom were gorgeous. All but 3 of them took their tops off (and a couple more than that) and the ones who didn't were pressured by the others to join them. A couple were too shy and then their friends started encouraging, pressuring and ultimately wrestling with them and eventually everyone was topless. I remember one girl afterwards saying "well if I'm going to be topless I may as well make my nipples hard" and she licked her fingers and started rubbing her breasts. Me and the other guy just looked at each other in utter disbelief as these beautiful mostly naked girls just frollicked, laughed, played, did each other's hair, threw grapes at each other-- over the course of about 2-3 hours, as I sat naked right in the centre of it all. A few guys walked by and looked at me with sheer envy . I've told this story to a few people over the years and the first thing many people ask is 1) if I got aroused and 2) if it was awkward. Strange to say I did not-- the experience was beautiful, natural, playful, joyful but not the slightest bit erotic...if that makes sense. I know it sounds crazy but the vibe was just childlike and almost innocent.

 

[poonerboi]

There are way more predators going after children in other places like Churches opposed to nude beaches, if that is a concern for people. Many predators who target children and pedophiles will frequent schools, playgrounds etc where there are more children. I used to be an educator for many years and this was something we learned about having children in our care. Predators also often will go into jobs in positions of authority and/or where they have easier access to children.

Yes people do walk around selling alcohol and recreational drugs (in my many years being there not narcotics, definitely not openly as weed, mushrooms, LSD are not classified as narcotics) but will say they have this in low volume so it’s discreet. I’m also sure they would not mention what they are selling around young children.

Being a nudist/naturalist where you bring your children to a beach to let them play in the sand and water doing normal beach things is not the same as forcing a child to bath with family & to bath one another. Different setting and pretence. I also don’t understand why you would suggest to be naturalists with children at home then give a traumatizing example of someone who were at home nude with family. I know of a lot of people who grew up with parents as nudists who are well adjusted individuals who have a more healthy view on nudity where it’s not always being sexualized and knowing the difference between sexual and non sexual nudity. Children are not “on display” at a nude beach. Nude beaches are mostly a safe place for all, and welcoming to all.

Yes predators are everywhere. But children are not NUDE at church and school and playgrounds!
And the point was is that I don't think nudist lifestyles are approptiate around children period. It should be a choice that they make when they are old enough to understand it. If my friend was affected by the natural tradition of a family sauna, do you not think that some children may have issues realizing their parents had them exposed in a crowd of strangers? Not to mention the gawkers taking photos.
That being said, I also don't think parents should force religion or a vegan lifestyle on the kids either. They have a right to choose for themselves.

 

[kelcaine]

Yes predators are everywhere. But children are not NUDE at church and school and playgrounds!
And the point was is that I don't think nudist lifestyles are approptiate around children period. It should be a choice that they make when they are old enough to understand it. If my friend was affected by the natural tradition of a family sauna, do you not think that some children may have issues realizing their parents had them exposed in a crowd of strangers? Not to mention the gawkers taking photos.
That being said, I also don't think parents should force religion or a vegan lifestyle on the kids either. They have a right to choose for themselves.

But wouldn’t it make more sense to teach children young that our nude bodies are not to be sexualized, and to give them a positive body image? If we taught children young that nudity doesn’t equate to sex, and to see the beauty in the human body, less people would overall be sexualizing non sexual nudity and places for non sexual nudity, which you seem to be doing, assuming nude beaches with families at them would attract child predators.

 

[VinVan]

Yes predators are everywhere. But children are not NUDE at church and school and playgrounds!
And the point was is that I don't think nudist lifestyles are approptiate around children period. It should be a choice that they make when they are old enough to understand it. If my friend was affected by the natural tradition of a family sauna, do you not think that some children may have issues realizing their parents had them exposed in a crowd of strangers? Not to mention the gawkers taking photos.
That being said, I also don't think parents should force religion or a vegan lifestyle on the kids either. They have a right to choose for themselves.

Do you not think that some kids are traumatized by religion? I know far more recovering Catholics than I do recovering nudists…. .

Perhaps your sanctimony would be better served saving those kids from believing there’s a guy out there with a white beard floating around in the sky who hates gays and Muslims, than children learning to be comfortable with their bodies.

 

[Noob888]

This anti-wreck beach or nudity mindset is quite indicative of the North American mindset.

When I first moved to the EU and started visiting beaches, seeing topless and fully nude sunbathers really surprised me at first. But after a few days, it didn't faze me at all. I couldn't care less whether people were nude or fully clothed, and neither did most parents who were with their kids at the beach. There was nobody staring or having a desire to take photos of nudes or get any kind of thrill from watching others, unless of course you count the pervo Americans visiting.

Also, nude beaches, even ones where families go (which include children and teens), are more common in the EU and other parts of the world than most North Americans might think. It's just a different mindset there, for sure.

 

[poonerboi]

Do you not think that some kids are traumatized by religion? I know far more recovering Catholics than I do recovering nudists…. .

Perhaps your sanctimony would be better served saving those kids from believing there’s a guy out there with a white beard floating around in the sky who hates gays and Muslims, than children learning to be comfortable with their bodies.

I guess you did not read that last line? I don't think religion should be forced on a kid. It isn't just Catholics, IMHO I don't trust any religious order.

 

[poonerboi]

But wouldn’t it make more sense to teach children young that our nude bodies are not to be sexualized, and to give them a positive body image? If we taught children young that nudity doesn’t equate to sex, and to see the beauty in the human body, less people would overall be sexualizing non sexual nudity and places for non sexual nudity, which you seem to be doing, assuming nude beaches with families at them would attract child predators.

I'm sorry , but if you don't think that some of the people frequenting a public nude beach are there for sexual purposes, I truly hope you don't have children.
And of course children should be taught to be comfortasble with their bodies. But they also need to be taught that there are bad people out in this world that don't respect that. Why is it necessary to teach them that amidst a bunch of intoxicated strangers.

 

[VinVan]

I'm sorry , but if you don't think that some of the people frequenting a public nude beach are there for sexual purposes, I truly hope you don't have children.
And of course children should be taught to be comfortasble with their bodies. But they also need to be taught that there are bad people out in this world that don't respect that. Why is it necessary to teach them that amidst a bunch of intoxicated strangers.

I’ve spent some time on nude beaches. The vast majority of people I’ve seen and met are pretty chill. I actually have a kid and we’ve been down to Wreck many times. No peds sighted contrary to your apocalyptic prognostications.

Here’s what I sense the kid experienced: that nude beaches exist; that it’s really chill there; that human bodies come in all kinds of shapes; that the stigma that some people attach to it are unfounded. Whether they disrobed was up to them.

You seem to have a lot of opinions about how people should conduct their lives. Folks who want to exert that kind of control over others are the ones who I’m leery of, not some naked people smoking a joint at the beach.

 

[kelcaine]

I'm sorry , but if you don't think that some of the people frequenting a public nude beach are there for sexual purposes, I truly hope you don't have children.
And of course children should be taught to be comfortasble with their bodies. But they also need to be taught that there are bad people out in this world that don't respect that. Why is it necessary to teach them that amidst a bunch of intoxicated strangers.

I never said I don’t think people who frequent nude beaches are not there for sexual purposes, as yes some are. There are some people who go to nude beaches to sexualize others, unfortunately, hence this conversation. I am a parent, but my kids have not been to a nude beach, but are aware I go to them often. Actually more predators would frequent non nude beaches because there are more families there, and more children there too. Predators frequent places where there are a lot of children like schools, parks, malls, and the internet. Nude beaches would be the least of my worries for possible predators as a parent

I would like to add I do see very few families at wreck being nude, and again when I do they are just doing normal beach things families do.

Also we cannot help if some people got to beaches with predatory thoughts, but any predatory actions are dealt with at Wreck by regulars getting people who do this to leave. I have seen it a few times. There is a big sense of community there where people, especially regulars look out for one another to keep the beach as safe as possible.

 

[Bowman]

There is a big sense of community there where people, especially regulars look out for one another to keep the beach as safe as possible.

That's the thing I've noticed the most. I can leave my stuff laying around unattended while I'm in the ocean. Sometimes for half an hour. No one has ever messed with it.
On the flip side, if I see my beach neighbor head to the water I'll be sure to keep an eye on their things while they're away.

 

[poonerboi]

I’ve spent some time on nude beaches. The vast majority of people I’ve seen and met are pretty chill. I actually have a kid and we’ve been down to Wreck many times. No peds sighted contrary to your apocalyptic prognostications.

Here’s what I sense the kid experienced: that nude beaches exist; that it’s really chill there; that human bodies come in all kinds of shapes; that the stigma that some people attach to it are unfounded. Whether they disrobed was up to them.

You seem to have a lot of opinions about how people should conduct their lives. Folks who want to exert that kind of control over others are the ones who I’m leery of, not some naked people smoking a joint at the beach.

No peds sighted? I wasn't aware that they were recognizable. Or do you have some super power that you can differentiate them from the general populace?

 

[angry anderson]

The first time I went. Decades ago, me and my girlfriend walked down the rickety steps to be encountered by some guy wearing an unbuttoned Hawaiian shirt and nothing else. He was a pot bellied, bearded hairy guy displaying his junk. So not a particularly appealing welcoming committee. He was also blocking our path. We had to kind of step around him.
Second time I went I didn't enjoy it. Didn't like the vibe. Most people should wear clothes. At least bathing suits.

 

[VinVan]

No peds sighted? I wasn't aware that they were recognizable. Or do you have some super power that you can differentiate them from the general populace?

Generally speaking when I go out in public I don’t look for pedophiles; or stock manipulators, or rapists, or alcoholics, or convicted felons, or fraud artists. But you know what, I’m certain they’re out there. I don’t think about any of that much (unless, it appears, when I’m on Perb). My general principle with strangers is to treat them like friends until proven otherwise. It’s served me well both professionally and personally. It makes me less paranoid about believing everyone is out to get me. I’m happier and so are the people in my life.

I find it interesting how I’m telling you about my experience and you’re trying to invalidate it. Hmmm…

 

[Noob888]

The first time I went. Decades ago, me and my girlfriend walked down the rickety steps to be encountered by some guy wearing an unbuttoned Hawaiian shirt and nothing else. He was a pot bellied, bearded hairy guy displaying his junk. So not a particularly appealing welcoming committee. He was also blocking our path. We had to kind of step around him.
Second time I went I didn't enjoy it. Didn't like the vibe. Most people should wear clothes. At least bathing suits.

My experience with Wreck has been very similar the times I went with a gf. It's not like most of the dudes there had fit bods.

 

[kelcaine]

Wr

My experience with Wreck has been very similar the times I went with a gf. It's not like most of the dudes there had fit bods.

Wreck beach has people of all walks of life, and all body types. It’s mostly a very body positive environment. You don’t need to look a certain way to be nude there. Most of the people aren’t going to judge you based how you look, and it’s just one of the beautiful things about Wreck.😊

 

[Harmony-bc]

I feel like I remember this topic coming up every few years on perb and it's exactly the same argument. Just differentt people making it. Nice to know nothing ever really changes around here lol

 

[Mrmotorscooter]

It can be weird at Wreck beach, we used to go there back in our 20’s and it was chill and fun, I went back with my SO about 30 years ago and it was quite different. We walked toward Spanish Banks and didn’t realize there was now a Gay section, it was a bit of a surprise to see some guys laying back on the sand right by the walking trail with big erections. I never expected to see that type of behavior but my SO didn’t mind she got quite the chuckle out of it, never felt like going back since.😵‍💫

 

[poonerboi]

Generally speaking when I go out in public I don’t look for pedophiles; or stock manipulators, or rapists, or alcoholics, or convicted felons, or fraud artists. But you know what, I’m certain they’re out there. I don’t think about any of that much (unless, it appears, when I’m on Perb). My general principle with strangers is to treat them like friends until proven otherwise. It’s served me well both professionally and personally. It makes me less paranoid about believing everyone is out to get me. I’m happier and so are the people in my life.

I find it interesting how I’m telling you about my experience and you’re trying to invalidate it. Hmmm…

Where am I "invalidating" your experience?
I am guessing you were not a victim of sexual abuse as a child. Little girls are not the only ones! And let me tell you , when we grow up to be dads or uncles , damn right we view all as possible pedos! Damn right we dont want to put any child in a situation that could encourage vany would be perverts